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he won't be feeling bad because 1500 is generous tip anyways but chances are he will mention that last time you gave 2000 and may ask whet is wrong. Happened to me with boy in Maha massage soi 6, bit of awkward situation. Me being me answered plainly ' nothing wrong with you but with me, I used to be generous but now I'm stingy" . That sufficed for explanation and even generated smile

specially Tom of Finland I guess

Long time I'm big fan of is not for everybody though. You and boy must be both comfortable with each other and higher amount of trust is required. After all each one of you is with stranger during possibly deep sleep stage. At times you may sense that boys may show some hesitation I tell them always that long time is till breakfast and it's mine breakfast , not theirs, even if it's my habit always offer them a breakfast as listening to my snoring may be hunger inducing. In exchange nothing beats waking up to a warm body beside or even better wrapped around me. If boy will start making excuses in middle of the night that he needs to go outside because is hungry or needs to smoke, no sense to chain him but definitely not a time to pay him agreed fee. Give them your short time rate and point that rest of tip they get in the morning - chances are they wont return and really - you don't want them to with such an attitude. Try not to go long time with boy you are taking for first time as chances are you guys ay not be compatible. That is proper attitude instead of getting bitter feeling you are ripped off. Costly lesson with that Screwboy though.

I rarely do short time preferring massage to that but in Bangkok I would not pay more than 2000 unless guy is already time tested by me then I may throw 500 more. There are few guys I paid more but those were long short times 3-5 hrs but those are exceptional specimens either body or chemistry wise. Long times 3000-5000 which is my upper limit for tip , 3500-4000 most common. Only once I paid 6000 but that way kind of good bye send off as I decided not to off him again even if I did many times in the past. Instead of haggling down I decided to part ways on generous side. In Pattaya 1500 st , 2000, sometimes 3000 LT

I'm not interested in Songkran this year but when combing through that Grindr just for fun I noticed that most visitors in BKK are declaring they will be leaving on 16th or 17th , so my guess is the same like reader's above. Reliable sources in the know are saying that soi 4 is water dry area in that period

it's always in the past. Wait till 2030 and you will hear 2024 , that was a year!!! Cheap drinks and off fees at 500, and long time tips paltry 3000-5000. And nobody will mention that baht was 36/ USD in 2024 , not 136 as now

no compassion here from me. Smell is one thing but more important is discarding improperly extinguished cigarette. Behavior also not fair to other smokers who manage somehow to hold on indulgence until deplaning

yes

no pain, no gain as they say

you mean " it worked" ?

I, for one, take consolation in fact that Troy is older than me, 555 ( ha, ha, ha). As for communication with boys fortunately rarely we discuss with them merits of Thailand adopting riel as currency or Thai politics during II World War so it's fairly easy. They more or less know what we want and we more or less know whet they expect in exchange. What I found handy to break the ice is to take some interest in them. Even if language barrier prevents us from asking what city they are from or do they have siblings etc I always try to point on something they are wearing ( shoes, watch, t-shirt , tattoo) and thump it up showing I pay attention to them , not only their bulge. It may even pay in some benefit, when I asked boy from now defunct New Twilight what simple tattoo on his chest means ( names of his parents ) he proclaimed " ok, long time ok ' even if declined idea just two sips of cola before.

No dispute that there were more choices in the past. But did most of us really used it? Perhaps expats or people on 3 months vacations. I like it better now because it's now and presents options I can use currently. Boys I was drooling about 10 years ago now are often balding , developing respectable waist size and often trying to forget about their past job. For me no memory substitutes for moment I'm entering bar and spa now, curious as ever what I will find on other side of door . If I dream I rather visualize my first walk next trip through soi 4 toward Jupiter on my way greeted by owner of G'Bangkok or barkers at Banana then recall some exciting first walk through soi Twilight bak in 2015 as much as I miss it. But it's gone . On merit of Sunee it's easy for me as I never really considered the place substitute to my more favorable digs - Boyztown. I liked Good Boys though but still can't say I missed it since it's not there anymore.

tattooed guy\ at the very center needs glasses

if memory serves me well he died on the flight to USA so likely found his final rest somewhere there

even if that is the case , it's not excuse to an any degree for getting physical.

that's steep , we are not talking Jupiter or Moonlight after all . Still not excuse to behave as he did

That's true, with ever bigger and bigger slice going up to people higher in food chain and cuts everywhere in the name of effectiveness, no wonder though that it's happening.

that may be your problem. English is not my first language and I speak with heavy accent , I noticed very often that people in the same situation understand me better than native English speakers. In Thailand is handy to know that 5 is "ha"' so "ha, ha' is not only laugh but also may mean 55.

From what I recall from Januray they did not wear numbers during first walkabout but most of them did during second and last one. Those who did not wear then were already booked or just show boys not available for take out.

never hurts to set internal limit of how much you are prepared to to fork out and stick to it. Protect your account and keep in mind that often best boys are spotted on last day or even worse , last night of the trip. You don't want be money dry when it happens

take comfort knowing you not alone

I'd say no. 2500 for app encounter is on high side that's first. You discussed price with him in advance and accepted HIS price without haggling, that's second reason. Of course if you feel happy beyond expectation there's always room for extra tip.

Great and engaging report. Fact that alcoholic drinks are more expensive in Jupiter is novelty for me (last visit in January,) Don't get discouraged too fast, Even the same boy may perform much better or much worse few days later. Yes , as other advised if you require specifics in performance , better discuss it with boy beforehand . Try avoid mamasans as intermediaries or translators, their job is to make sure boy is offed , not that customer will get what he wants, that's byproduct. Tipping boy during parade is great idea as you can size up his reaction, lucky you to get 'wai' ( hands together salute ) . My 100 baht last time was greeted with blank stare so I got a message and went hunting somewhere else. Hope you will have fun as trip unfolds and don't give up on Jupiter, while attitude seems to be sucky , boys are looking great and with right match for which you need to get more experience , live and learn , you know - meetings with them can be rewarding. This comes from me who is not big fan of Jupiter.

Sure, water was much more wet 20 years ago as well. What was different is that were more bars and more boys in them. Performances varied the same way they do nowadays. It took me 8 trip spread oved 12 years 2001-2013 before I put my step inside Tawan, all because I believed nonsenses circulating on various boards how lazy , greedy , out of shape and indifferent their boys are. 10 minutes after being inside I realized wasted 12 years of fun because all that propaganda. My worst experience oy was also in that supposed golden era, with Dreamboys boy back in 2013 ( not related to 1st visit at Tawan and not even the same trip )

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