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all of that was plainly visible in bars during my recent trip, in some Chinese were 2/3 if not more audience including numerous , well behaving and obviously liberated girls

no number , he is waiter in the HotMale beer bar It was before your arrival

having TotallyOz as boyfriend why would he work ?

World Sex Capital after all, what's wrong with that ?

order more , I don't expect clearance before Thursday

Day 1 Super long flight to Bangkok , as always I booked aisle seat in middle section in the last row because I noticed that it increases chance seat beside will be unoccupied and that bet was successful. Empty seat indeed , what is better, one of only 2 or 3 free seats in the whole 787-9. I don’t watch movies so had 4 books with me but it seems melatonin helped this time, not that I slept much but spent considerable part of flight in at least half sleep stage. So finished only book and half. Arriving in Bangkok in early morning, just as day broke , I hoped for short immigration lines but it was not a case as it looked few big planes dumped human load at the same time. Booths were staffed properly and while lines lengths were scary it moved quite fast. Normally I travel with carry on only but this time I had proper luggage – remember that promised suitcase to be given to my Cambodian Charming Prince.(CCP ) Reason was more prosaic though, this time both seat selection and 1 piece of luggage was included in price so I did not bother with economizing. Fate co-ordinated it nicely , as soon as I approached conveyor my suitcase popped out. Since my CCP reacts well to red wine by his own admission I carried 2 bottles for him in my luggage and was happy to find out they arrived intact. Early train to the city was surprisingly full from airport , visible sign tourism rebounded with vigor. Baan Silom was aware I will be late, I booked for night before as I wanted to be sure arriving early I will have bed and shower available and lady on reception greeted me “ You finally arrived “ . After desoiling myself I went to world famous UNESCO designated Foodland Patpong for an arranged breakfast with ChristianPFC who lavished on me SIM card and recently issued new Cambodian banknotes of 200 and 2000 riels – he knows I collect those. Then to XOne on Suriwong to exchange money, this trip I took care to compare rates on every exchange booth I passed by and XOne was consistently the best. Not by much but still the best. When packing we usually forget something , this time it was hat so from there I went straight to Silom market in soi 10 and bought new hat. I noticed that weather was very pleasant , in the morning even bit chilly and it lasted for more than a week, only in last 3-4 days of my stay temperatures and humidity rise noticeably. Returning to hotel on my way I booked an appointment for tomorrow at Dr. Smile on Silom as I have some repairs to be done. I use them for years. Of course Lined my CCP that I’m in Bangkok and confirmed my arrive after tomorrow asking him to pick me up as I rather pay him taxi fare than to some random guy. He confirmed immediately increasing my heartbeat right away. Can’t wait ! Jet lag gave some signals I should retire to my room so I did, Lined my Grindr masseur if he is interested in coming but unfortunately he hurt his back playing tennis and is out of commission for few weeks , even declined suggestion for just kissing / cuddling session afraid he may be hurt in process. Too bad as I like him a lot. But I have solution with V, he told me he is finishing work at 3 and will be in my room shortly after. I generously offered to help him to shower, offer visibly appreciated as soon as he undressed. Both tired ,me with trip , him with work we had good use of the bed until dark. Then we went to G’Bangkok in soi 4 for a well deserved dinner greeted warmly by the boss there and his crew. Time spent with V and dinner invigorated me very well so when he went home I started survey of bars with Hot Male beer bar first. I had hope P will go with me but they had shortage of staff tonight and I was told he will be available only when bar closes at 2am. So I left him there promising to pick him up later and went to Dreamboys hoping Oud veteran of several offs from Tawan and Jupiter who was seen there by spoon last month will be there but mamas an told me he is gone. But I eyed another veteran of multiple offs, Dit and had him sitting with me . Declined to buy him a drink opting for 500 tip instead. Bar probably was not happy but boy was and it’s what counts. I decided this trip , apart from time spent with CCP I will be back to butterflying , both bars and boys. Decision prompted by fact that I noticed on last trip some guys are starting taking me for more or less granted. Going forward this trip I made 3 well deserved exceptions but otherwise sticked to an original idea and I’m glad I did saving some money and making new discoveries in process. Then just before midnight I went by Moonlight where some guys sitting outside recognized me greeting warmly , I peeked inside but bar was emptying already so I decided to go to Banana Club in soi 4 , bar I neglected last few trips. They had show in progress , mainly ladyboys lip-syncing but I kind of had fun there. Mamasan Lucy was victimizing group of Chinese in the first row so I was left to my own devices inviting one of boys to seat with me for a feel and tip. One of their barkers outside is very handsome so I forced 100 baht on him signalizing an interest. At 1.30 I went to Patpong to pick up P from HotMale. In Oct I had feeling I may be his first customer , now obviously he is more brave and we had good time , so good that in the morning I upped his promised tip by 500 I think bit out of guilt. Guilt because my mind is in Phnom Penh with CCP, sorry but it is.

isn't it a case already ?

Relax , I only look stupid

well , we need to establish first what pretty means. You are correct I like axe murderer's faces but what makes you thinking they are not pretty , at least for those tired eyes ? What I wanted to point it's I look at guy's face first and if I like what I see other attributes are secondary

does that guy look like KFC man?

I'm happy for you and hope your money will be put into good use

I rather be smart than smart enough but I need to live with what I have , lol Yes , my naivety in this case is controlled , I know what I can give and what behavior I can take and built ways of escape, both in the open and hidden. I can figure out he may be thinking the same, ' what if....' you right he is not sweet caring Asian boy but not naturalistic brute either, charming and well built young man I'd say. I don't want boyfriend I want companion for bit more than week, one who I will be comfortable with but who won't be afraid to say what he has in mind, in short I want the man, not a boy toy.

Tartegogo , in case you wonder when it happened, bkkmfj2648 was the guy sitting with me at @home bar when our paths crossed

yes, that request is puzzling with no plausible explanation even is some are coming to mind : somebody else on that flight, somebody giving him a ride , doesn't want to be seen with old farang by airport personnel , even sinister one like asking me to carry something for him or like my friend suspects want's just to have free ticket to Bangkok as it will be easier to separate if we are not all flight time together. Other option is he is creating escape route for himself in case he doesn't like me after initial 3 days in PP which makes sense from his point of view. But those are just speculations so I took a risk and decided to go through. About money I exactly follow Boy69 logic so I yield twice, changed flight and send money although only bit more than half requested and declined more. I must say if I was reader of that story my advice would be exactly one you guys are giving me including declining flight change request on risk of cutting whole deal of. But I did not simply because I like the guy, as I said , best of whole month long trip even if we did not meet in intimate situation yet. Risk is calculated and financed, now I can only hope for the best outcome..

yes and no. I take seriously all warning signs and take precautions watching my back and having escape routes. But yes ,I want and hope for deal to go through. Knowing myself for quite a while I know I wouldn't forgive myself if I did not try in this case. It's why I invested in tickets and send him that 200 $. But I'm not desperate , it's why I took risk of denying 2nd requested installment exactly for reason somebody mentioned above - I want to see some action first. Those 3 days in PP should clear waters either way so I'm excited but also prepared for disappointment and indeed for trouble. I also start worrying about potential problem if everything will go well indeed - how to keep him entertained in those 5 days in Bangkok. Found already well equipped gym nearby as he is fitness buff. Truth is I don't know him other than three nights of drinking in the bar with some discreet under the table action. But it's also his case for me - he doesn't know me as well and may keep in mind fate of those who were taken as toy boy and dumped with nothing. Several years ago it was guy in Tawan who was taken as trophy boy to Malaysia for a month , was treated well, dining shopping partying , all expenses paid. But at end of stay was sent back with 3000 baht total for all that trouble. No doubt cases like that are on boy's minds.

Rob , what is so confusing ? Do I seem stupid falling for that guy? I feel I'm sometimes but thrill and excitement is worth it. Or narrative is too long and not clear ? All comments welcomed, I wont be offended or unfazed, promise.

Preliminaries Normally January to April is NOT a period in which I travel due to work commitments. I wouldn’t even plan it but there are some issues brewing for later part of 2023 which may stop me from travel , at least from travel to Asia. And work load seemed lighter for this January as younger colleagues took the slack so just before Christmas I decided to book another trip to our beloved Land of Smiles. Time wise all I could afford was 2 weeks and that is what I aimed for. It will be also my first trip in January and February. When I return I’ll be left only with March , Apr and July to cover Some readers may recall following statement from my Oct/ Nov 2022 trip summary : “ Surprisingly perhaps guy I consider most memorable of the whole trip was one whom I did not even off, that hunk I met in bar in PP. Perhaps that’s good - reason to return there sooner the better.” Yes , I liked him a lot so as part of planned trip I booked flight for 3 days to Phnom Penh (PP ) just to check if he is still working there. In Oct he told me that he is not going with clients , just drinks with them in bar and when I tried to suggest he can accompany me for trip to Siem Reap he said he is busy till end of 2022 but may be available in next year. When in Siem Reap I made last effort to see if he would come to see me there but response was the same and this was last I heard from him. In short I gave up but being in the region I wanted to try once more. Applied for Cambodian e-visa and it was issued overnight so all I had to do was to wait for departure day month Iater. Guardian Angel had other plans for me though, right after New Year , out of blue Line message came from my guy asking ‘ How are you ?’ like he knew I’m coming . Which was not a case as very few people knew about my plans and nobody , including me , even knew his name or nick. It’s why I suspect Angel’s hand in that. I was thrilled and even more few hours later when new message arrived ‘ now I have time for us”. Obviously it seemed that he somehow remembered his ‘ next year possible ‘ statement. That landed me immediately on Cloud 7 if not 9 and that feeling did not leave me for quite few days. Even now on recollection I can’t help but smile. We ironed things fast, I suggested 5 days trip to either Angkor or Bangkok and Pattaya (3+2). He opted for Thailand but for some reason only for 3 days Bangkok part. Fine , what about 5 days in Bangkok ? Immediately it was approved ‘yes , 5 days”. He sent me copy of his passport so I could buy him ticket , outbound for exactly the same flight I was supposed to return to Bangkok originally. What about kissing? “yes I kiss and I want you to kiss me too”, “ I will do my best we have fun together”. Financial arrangements were set for both PP and Bangkok part. Being prime beef he knew his price but from my point of view what he asked for was roughly what I spend daily for massage and overnight session so I did not have any problems approving his request. Learning he has a car I suggested taking two trips to sights near PP by his car and offered price bit higher than travel office would charge expecting that premium goes toward stolen kiss or 5 somewhere on the road. All that took only 1 or 2 days during which I never left my cloud 9 happy mood fortified by few pictures he send me unsolicited ( no I will not post them here nor send to you by PM even if they were decent pictures , suitable for grandma to see ). Week later cloud 9 become bit cloudy indeed with message ‘ you should go to Bangkok before me “???? Why ? we are on the same flight but we can pretend we don’t know each other. “ I want to make sure you are in Bangkok before me since I did not travel for long time “. I find it strange but being NOT about to blow whole thing about additional ticket ( my original was not refundable, non changeable I asked if the same day is OK , it was , what about flight which takes off 20 minutes earlier ? It’s OK too. Very puzzling but I invested 80 $ in new ticket, cheap price considering I’m looking for 8 days in arms of one of best guys I ever put my eyes on. I have few ideas what may be reason but none convincing so I just let it go. After daily rounds of ‘how are you today ?” messages few days later more up to a point message came “ I did not travel for long and need new clothes, shoes and suitcase, can you send me 350 $”, Oho, ho though I, it starts already . I suggested that we can do shopping when I’m 3 days in PP but he said he prefers to do it now because there are great sales before Chinese New Year. Makes sense. But again , hoping for the best I sent him 200$ and promised to gift him my new suitcase I just bought, enforced it even with the picture. Fact that I put limit on request was noticed but with what seemed good humor. So now I descended from cloud 9 to level 5 if not 4 but still I’m thrilled with anticipation. Even see good point with that split flight as it could be escape route for me if those 3 days in PP will turn sour or something. 10 days to go and I really count days but seeing those requests I also start thinking about escape route if need arises. Then few days before departure next request comes , car loan of 426 $ to be repaid enforced with photo of previous payment. It looked authentic with payment due 3 days before my arrival in PP. Can I borrow him that money and subsequently deduct from his payments when we meet ? No, I don’t want to do any advance payments, organize money there I answered while confirming our financial arrangements. Answer was “ ok I understand , see you in PP in few days “ . So I’m still thrilled locking my door ready to go to the airport but seeing things are bit less rosy although not unexpected I resolved to leave money I set aside for him for Bangkok part in trusted hands in BKK and not to reveal name of hotel we will be in until we both land in Swampy. Also fact that I’m planning to change hotels after 3 nights as it’s my habit anyways is supposed to be hidden until morning of move. Just in case. That request to fly separately bothers me a bit it needs to be said, if only because I can’t come up with plausible explanation. I’m not overly suspicious realizing that some of it may be related to fact that while his spoken English is quite conversational , his written language is quite poor so that my be reason plausible explanation is not coming. Another factor tempering my excitement is concern how I will keep him entertained during those 5 days as his ideas of good time maybe different from mine but that is problem for us to solve in due course. Which is soon.

confirmed !

yes, just go !!!

academic for me as April is out of bounds for me for travel and like you, I don't like crowds and on top of it hate heat - April is hottest month, but if I had luck in 6/49 and travelled there I'd stay in Bangkok , preferably in Raya as they provide drying rack for clothes ( Furama Sathorn Xclusive also does in some rooms )

That's my philosophy and practice as well. If price they quote it's to high I counteroffer with what I consider fair and it's yes or no i.e 'how much do you want ? ' "2500", ' no , 2000', " 2200 ?", 'sorry no, 2000'. If he will be good , chances are he still will get his 2500 or 2200 at end of session.

why would you laugh ? I'd find it disrespectful . Just counteroffer without any grimaces sorry for repeating floridarob thesis but I posted before I read that post

we are not twins, that's sure

5 it's still plenty as I always say I need only one as long as I like what I see

I was there with our former contributor on Thursday last week not only market is fun but also getting there by train as it requires changing trains after crossing the canal in ferry. Certainly worthy detour from Bangkok and very cheap at that , two train rides at 10 Baht and ferry crossing at 3 baht each way for a grand total of 46 baht. Pictures below are mine. In my opinion it's more fun of actually being on the train while rolling through the market. Last pics is train already at the station after rolling through .