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Third time lucky - December 2021 trip to Thailand in covid time
vinapu replied to vinapu's topic in Gay Thailand
nice try, you will not see any. Not that I took plenty as I generally don't take my guys pics and those few I took all were under condition 'for my eyes only' -
I agree with hysteric part but don't blame them entirely , like us , governments simply don't know trying different approaches although they should pay more attention to what others tried and see if it worked or now. As for common sense I doubt it exists over covid issue, it's too early to develop one by general population. I noticed people's outlook changes depending whether they had exposure to people who got sick and also length of pandemic. Liberal minded people of of the sudden are in favor of restrictions because mom or friend got sick and they see it's no kidding, but also initially restrictive people are in favor of easing up as they see that restrictive approach does more harm to peoples lives than good, virus spreads anyways and economies and people's living are greatly affected / that's my case for example /
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what kind of massage do you prefer for 2 hands or 4
vinapu replied to Radek48's topic in Gay Thailand
not so sure first, "most" doesn't meant 'all ' , different people may find fun in different situations second , while massage itself won't get double enjoyable because of 4 hands, " fun after " effect may be more exponential than linear if only guys like each other and have fun being together -
Third time lucky - December 2021 trip to Thailand in covid time
vinapu replied to vinapu's topic in Gay Thailand
Ah-poo is good, willing and enthusiastic guy -
Third time lucky - December 2021 trip to Thailand in covid time
vinapu replied to vinapu's topic in Gay Thailand
Day 15 7 a.m. in the morning next day was one of most memorable hour in my entire life. I opened eyes, sober already but not quite present yet, turned and I saw something beautiful – naked muscular semi-god sleeping on his stomach right beside me, perky , round butt up. Stuff dreams are made of, right. Sure , fast I recalled what is going on but pleasure of that surprise will live on with me for long time. Always gentleman I quietly went to the bathroom trying not to disturb his well deserved sleep but soon he knocked door and joined me in the shower. We had a bit to catch on and we did so his tip had some merit And it was very pleasant morning, then breakfast and he left as he was supposed to report to work. As soon as he left , moment of enlightenment dawned on me. Soviet , boy few years ago I was sitting with at Dreamboys Pattaya and next day found him as masseur at Royal House there. He was great guy to extend I even recommended him to one of our members. Yesterday he mentioned Dreamboys but somehow I did not connect dots. It seems world is small, what a reunion ! Another lazy, luxury room oiled day. At 3.30 p.m. I was expecting T who showed on the dot, messaged me from the parking and we went to MahaNakhon as I promised yesterday to take him there. It short walk from hotel. Visibility was great again, he was bit reluctant to step on the glass but finally he braved in. as most boys I took there he was more interested in taking pictures than admiring spectacular after all, view. Of course I showed him famous 74 floor washroom with the view and there was where he smiled. After that we had a meal in one of restaurants by Chong Nonsi station, task he seemed more interested in than just completed visit in the skies and than I asked if he wants to see my stamp collection and instant approval indicated that it was move he expected as he gave me even time frame. So off we went to have a good time , he even tried my glasses. It was dark when he left. Warmed up I went to Jupiter, had a drink there and after hour I left. Few customers , strange format with guys in the shadows after half hourly parade, I think I’m really biased against that bar and never feel it’s my place even if boys there are all prime beef, boyfriend , husband and son-in-law material. Perhaps I’m not and it’s why am not so enthusiastic. Readers please ignore my grumbling , it’s great bar with great staff , it’s just me who doesn’t feel at home there like in other bars like HotMale , my next destination. I caught with the show , today three Monlight models only present –Tum, Nicky and Smart with notable absence of Babe and Nut. There was big c*-**k show with 4 participants, things are getting back to normal. Somehow still I went home empty handed , walked around Silom and Patpong and headed home where even if sober I collapsed to empty bed right away. I think subconsciously I realized that today is end of my second week and normally it would be night when I’m heading to the airport to return home. So day 15, so memorably started, was over. -
Third time lucky - December 2021 trip to Thailand in covid time
vinapu replied to vinapu's topic in Gay Thailand
fortunately city is not that big although I missed Bangkok or Pattaya style motorsai drivers on every corner -
it looks that left hand doesn't know what right hand is doing, just like poorly conducted 4 hand massage. But in covid context it's situation not unique to Thailand by any means, almost every country has it's own sins.
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Third time lucky - December 2021 trip to Thailand in covid time
vinapu replied to vinapu's topic in Gay Thailand
no idea but quite possible. I was in Lucky boys perhaps 2 times only and don't recall him there but it means nothing. Tattoed , well built and bit hairy for Asian -
Third time lucky - December 2021 trip to Thailand in covid time
vinapu replied to vinapu's topic in Gay Thailand
Day 14 I went for breakfast alone as my companion was deep asleep and I did not have a heart to wake him up neither was willing to wait as I was hungry. When he opened eyes we had few romantic moments before he went away collecting his tip plus 100 baht I gave him to buy something for breakfast he missed. I was quite lazy morning and afternoon for me as to prove my theory that too comfortable hotel room prevents us from going out. It was only 3p.m. when I left and trekked to Sukhumvit soi 43 to Jey Spa. Last time I was there they were still in old, soi 41 location. Jey Spa is not easy to find as is no sign so it’s handy to remember number 14/6 . part of townhouse with closed gate is where Jey Spa is You will see shoes in front otherwise unassuming townhouse . I was asked about appointment but I had none as it’s not really my style , I like to try my luck. Three guys were available , all handsome, tall and muscular but as almost always I went for one who smiled . Ken / Mac 2 , he uses both nicks with number 2 as there are other guys with the same nicks in the shop he explained. Chiang Mai native so we had point to start conversation since I just returned from there. Hour and half massage 900, minimum tip 1500 I was informed and up we went to a quite nice and spacious room. Massage was good and very professional and afters were not initiated until massage part was done. Great encounter, worth repeat and LT option investigation but I had other plans for today so took with me only great and sweet memory. Straight from there I went to Sabaidee for reunion with T after week being away from Bangkok. This time I went only for 1 hr session as I was well massage already and we had plans to throw another party at the shop tonight. What nicely surprised me , it turned out that for 1 hr. massage he has quite different routine than for longer term and I enjoyed that change. I gave him some money, few boys went to purchase meat for barbecue, others were sent to buy a case or two of Chang and soon good time was had by all, including lady who are working there as cleaner, later rewarded with 500 tip just for being nice, after all Christmas is near, no? Out of few boys tasked with meat preparation I noticed one particularly skilled nicked Tata. It was obvious he knows what to do and enjoyed it. Later on, when we seat together he revealed he was cook in Thai restaurant in Amsterdam for few years and it showed. It was great night, perhaps even greater then first one as we knew each other bit better and no, there was nothing sensual or erotic , just normal eat , drink and be merry gathering. I learned a lot about their lives and they asked about mine. There was new boy , not seen last time , who admitted openly he was a gay, not that it shocked anybody. His name is Soviet, which sounded bit familiar and I’m not talking about historical and political stuff. Anyways as night was drawing , bottles , plates and my pocket emptying at one point it was time to go home. Since farang i.e. me seemed quite drunk and rightly so guys tasked Soviet with delivering me home. Sure I was drunk but not that drunk not to ask if he will stay with me till morning assuring him that while my pockets are almost empty , I have some compensation funds in my room available. So we were packed into called taxi , waved good bye and went home. It needs to be said that I don’t remember much of how day 14 finished but it finished anyways with me falling asleep literally in Soviet embraces. Perhaps even my last thought was ‘ easy money tonight for you Mr. Soviet” -
Third time lucky - December 2021 trip to Thailand in covid time
vinapu replied to vinapu's topic in Gay Thailand
nice try, you will not see any. Not that I took plenty as I generally don't take my guys pics and those few I took all were under condition 'for my eyes only' -
Third time lucky - December 2021 trip to Thailand in covid time
vinapu replied to vinapu's topic in Gay Thailand
That's about right ! -
Third time lucky - December 2021 trip to Thailand in covid time
vinapu replied to vinapu's topic in Gay Thailand
Day 13 S was not rushing in the morning , patiently accompanied me to a breakfast and finally last embraces, kiss , pat on the bum and he was gone , phone and other treasures secured in his bag. Nothing emotional and I liked it like that, we both did our part and parted our ways happy. Question how to get to the airport was solved surprisingly easy, as soon as I stepped outside hotel’s gate songtaew stopped delivering some guest and his daughter, asked 50 baht to the airport and soon I was there, well before intended time but day was pleasant so I could wait basking in the sun. S sent me line saying that I forgot to tip him for last night, yeah, right , nice try answered I, remember our agreement from previous morning and answer of sticker with blinking eye came right away so we knew it was just a joke. Flight to BKK was uneventful and visibility was good, we circled city and landed from sea side , attached below is picture of Chao Praya joining the sea taken from approach. My hotel this time was Furama Sathorn close to Chong Nonsi BTS, bit hidden in the side soi and again I abused covid situation of depressed prices by splurging on Executive Suite. 1300 baht with breakfast for 2 , perhaps 1/3 of normal price for such a room. Separate living room with kitchenette , bedroom , balcony and full washroom with shower and tube accessible from both living room and bedroom, in short almost like an appartment. Bell boy face looked somewhat familiar and he also looked at me with some interest, later on after intensive brain work I realized that I saw him working at Moonlight few years ago, fact he confirmed when I discretely asked. Impressive part is we never met but still both managed to remember our faces. After I settled I took motorsai to soi Pluk Chit but no, not to see T at Sabaidee but to meet ChristianPFC after long 2 years absence. We had a lot to catch on so I had some soup in one of stalls and we moved to my room to continue. After catching with what’s new and old and admiring new unusual denominated 30 000 riel commemorative hybrid ( paper with transparent plastic window ) note he brought for me from Cambodia we went to survey massage places at Silom Plaza . Few acceptable guys at Best Massage at ground floor , we also went up to Arena but at that time , past 8 p.m. it was already closed. Then to Hot Male just recently opened. One of guys on the scene was Ah-poo, guy I spot on apps and was exchanging messages last week on Line , one who used ‘boy services” description instead of more crude money boy. We couldn’t align our timing then but now was a chance. I liked his picture and even more original on the scene so I called him over, showed on my smartphone our conversations which he easily recalled, 500 off fee and soon we were marching to the hotel where nobody blinked an eye seeing us. Great Cambodian night crowning day 13. -
Third time lucky - December 2021 trip to Thailand in covid time
vinapu replied to vinapu's topic in Gay Thailand
he had a working phone and just took an opportunity to upgrade, lets put it this way , I had fun buying it and witnessing whole spectacle to coerce me to do it, that's all -
that reminds me first lockdown where I live in March of 2020 where almost everything was closed but stores selling alcohol were shockingly exempted. Explanation was that alcoholics with withdrawal symptom could possibly clog hospitals and much needed beds in them. Even if not true at least it sounded plausibly, LOL
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this is how ideas are created, identifying problems and asking questions, answers of varied quality will follow and in politics good answer in 2022 my turn to be bad in say 2027. Then whole thing starts all over
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Third time lucky - December 2021 trip to Thailand in covid time
vinapu replied to vinapu's topic in Gay Thailand
this is exactly how I treated whole phone debacle - part of adventure. He was particularly good in creating 'boyfriend ' illusion without pretending it's real thing so got rewarded for his skills I guess. Although generally I believe more in monetary compensation than material gifts he skillfully created situation when I wanted to see him happy for receiving those goods. -
yeah but is Singapore democracy or just country with elections ? I'm not denying great successes of it's enlightened leadership but better not to be dissident there.
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Third time lucky - December 2021 trip to Thailand in covid time
vinapu replied to vinapu's topic in Gay Thailand
Day 12 Such is the secret of well executed night that at breakfast question ‘will you buy me a new phone ? ‘ could be matter of factly rephrased “will you buy me that 12000 phone today ?’ which allowed me to counter propose ‘ no , that for 8000 only”. See how easy it is, LOL. So again off we went to that store where I was treated with spectacle of salesman dancing around S , extolling virtues of 12000 model and me faking an interest in 4500 model of the same make (Vivo ). All that in vain as I stood my ground at 8000 and was intended to indeed. Then all of the sudden 10000 model become attractive but I had my answer ready although requiring going to the quiet corner where I whispered “ you sleep with me tonight for free and I buy you that 10000 one or sleep for free and give me back 2000 I gave you this morning and we have 12000 one.” That was brilliant as it’s always very hard to part with money so WE settled on the first offer, 10000 and tip free night. Now you know why I called S historical figure – he made that old fool Vinapu joining long line of farangs buying their guy a phone. Such was his charm that I still don’t regret it. Both happy we returned to hotel where phone was arrested till tomorrow morning, we had some steamy moments as celebration of new acquisition and at noonish he went home and I went to continue my walks around old city mindful of fact that at 2 B, the body builder is scheduled to come. Arrived on time indeed. Such a body can’t be wasted as masseur so I suggested we change roles, he will become sandbag like me and I will massage him. I did very good job and tipped him well too. Before we started he modestly show me on his phone internet offer of some dreamt about shoes for just only 650. Yes , he got it too . I’m on shopping spree today it seems but that the secret of good mood. Exhausted after all that opening and closing wallet and massaging such substantial hunk I decided to have a rest in form of visiting Chiang Mai railway station. Took songtaew there for 60 baht as it’s quite far from old city. New and shiny train to Bangkok was ready to depart in few minutes, always enchanting moment for me , railway man at heart my whole life. No hunk is able to distract me from counting carriages of passing train, no matter how manly and muscly he would be. At 6 p.m. on the dot national anthem was played and right after train started rolling toward Bangkok 12.5 hrs. away. Not too many passengers, presumably more will join on the way but 1st class seemed to be filled by farangs. Not exactly cheap as lower berth in 1 st class costs 1600 odd baht it seems romance of rail travel still has hold on many not to mention savings on night at hotel. Perhaps I should try that one day at least one way. Leisurely walk to Classic for last massage there this trip. As mamasan suggested time to fork 1000 for 4 hands massage. From massage point of view it doesn’t make much sense , probably 2 session in row with one guy would make more of it because 4 hands requires not only massage skills but great degree of coordination between boys. You may feel strange if on is massaging your left shoulder while other takes care about right calf. But for fun and that was my intention, 4 hands can’t be beaten as long as very important condition is met : boys must be comfortable with each other. Common mistake is to force one guy on another which may not work due to shyness, friendship, blood relation or guys simply not being fond of each other. Cure for that is simple: chose one guy and let him bother with choosing second one. Chances are he will be good match. You may warn that 2nd guy still needs to be approved by you and if you have specific requirements you need to tell up front. Since it was my 4th time there and no doubt guys are updating themselves about clients I did not make much fuss, chose one and left him with task of getting helper of his choice. Fun intended , fun achieved. Massage was quite ok with one tasked with above the waist and other one with the lower carcass, it was how they chose to work. After a while I started being active and we had good , laughter filled time indeed. 1500 a head tipped, well received. Then S and I jumped on his motorsai heading for his friends restaurant. Too bad I’m leaving as friend was quite handsome boss and if I was longer would investigate option of getting my hands on him. S was visibly eager to retrieve his treasures arrested in my room but to his credit while night was more quiet than previous two he kept his side of bargain to successfully finalize my day 12 -
Since it's only week since I returned from there I find difficult to believe situation deteriorated that bad that fast but if he say so ? 8-10 people is probably half of Dreamboys staff. Vaccines are available to all and sundry and Thai population impressed me with mask wearing and other preventive measures discipline , can't see disaster coming that fast.
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Unreasonable critique is still critique and may lead to unintended consequences as tired populations may look for those who offer fast way out of that misery. fact that different governments and indeed different levels of government within single country are trying different solutions shows that nobody has good idea what to do and they trying , pretending they know. Packing infected but only mildly sick people in hospitals like Thailand does is just one example. You right we are tired of covid and also of being manipulated into believing world is on verge of catastrophe by paternalistic governments. What about letting us to make our choices, very few people are strolling in shorts and t-shirts during frost wave and not all who do actually get sick. After 2 year living with the thing most of us have an idea of how to protect ourselves and we don't need closed stores, gyms, churches and bars leaving millions without living wages in order to protect few. I live in the building with aprox. 100 people living in, quite tight knit community of strangers. Since mid-March 2020, first lock down, we lost 5 neighbours, including 2 in just one day, none of them to covid, so somehow me managed to protect ourselves from covid malice but not from sickness and death indeed.
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Do you fear getting picked on by stand-up comedians?
vinapu replied to unicorn's topic in The Beer Bar
if one goes there , better be prepared to be picked on -
sister, she is well off but still my sister. Spending all so nothing is left is good if one is planning suicide , otherwise not very prudent as we never know how many years we will be bed ridden and looking / paying to others to change our pampers so disposing ones assets too soon is not wise IMHO. Beneficiaries can wait
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Third time lucky - December 2021 trip to Thailand in covid time
vinapu replied to vinapu's topic in Gay Thailand
I did not know indeed, perhaps because I always more focus on what's opened , not what is closed , including my own wallet. Even faded gay scene in Chiang Mai worked for me very well and chances are city will be included in my circuit in future trips. I repeat my mantra for 27th time, all we need is one bar and one suitable boy in it. -
that's the 2.3 billion baht question