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Chasing dreams and illusions - report of August 2019 trip
vinapu replied to vinapu's topic in Gay Thailand
I'm not sure if that's the same guy as I don't recall him from Jupiter but your description fits, yes flawless, smooth , muscular good looking and well bulged -
Chasing dreams and illusions - report of August 2019 trip
vinapu replied to vinapu's topic in Gay Thailand
you are not alone, I bet most of board agrees, it's why we are still here -
Chasing dreams and illusions - report of August 2019 trip
vinapu replied to vinapu's topic in Gay Thailand
I don't see anything impolite neither in Boy69's comment , not in paulsf post. As some readers already noticed in report above I placed less monetary entries than in the past and will reduce those even more. As always somebody else's money and spending tends to generate too much heat , that's life fact. So perhaps to keep peace I should refrain from quoting explicitly any expenses depriving readers some educational value so to speak but maintaining world and my own peace. I like to spend my money way I do and that financial burden , if any , is only mine. Yes I expect comments and questions . I'm not shy to tell when question is too nosy. I was told many times that I'm too generous to the guys and got the message. And still continue to be too generous, perhaps because I find more pleasure with paying over the odds than counting every baht . I still do by the way , at least 2 times a day when in Thailand and result is always the same " where the hell all that money went" . But I never lose sight of fact that where I live bus ticket costs 100 baht , not 8 like in BKK so perhaps foolishly I think that my financial loss of tipping guy 100 baht just for touching his silicone cock during big cock show is still mitigated by fact that his gain is 12 bus tickets at expense of my just 1. That's my way of thinking when I travel to countries where dollar , pound , euro, quetzal and rouble still count for something. -
thank you for clarification, I was about to call ambulance as I thought I have a stroke
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Chasing dreams and illusions - report of August 2019 trip
vinapu replied to vinapu's topic in Gay Thailand
Day 12 Since Dam negotiated extension our breakfast (at Foodland, where else, I’m cheap ) was late affair losing that 16 baht discount again. Than I asked him if he was atop of MahaNakhon , he said no, I asked if he wants to go and he did so for 5th time this trip I went there. Clear air , not crowded on top. Being reserved guy he did not make any drama , went to the glass without fear and when we surveyed city from above he was surprisingly good finding places. Sure, possibly he lied and was there already but when he immediately pointed our hotel, very unassuming, specially from height, building I was impressed by his orientation skills. Also finding Tawan building took him just second or two. Not sure he was impressed as he should , as I said he is very quiet and reserved but who else has such velvet skin? Perhaps some angles and not even necessary all. Walked me back to hotel, perhaps hoping for another extension but I had a bit of other plans and sight of police in hotel 's ,lobby derailed us both so we shook hands and said good bye. It turned out that one of guests got into drug fueled rage and reception called cops to calm him down. Later on I saw him sleeping on the couch outside in strange position so it was something. Then I proceed to do some touristy stuff, took MRT from Sam Yan to new shiny and impressive Sanam Chai station on new section of MRT opened recently . At Hualampong we need to cross platform to board new train as train from Silom still terminated there. After sightseeing station which should be counted among most impressively decorated anywhere I took short walk to Wat Po. Yes , now with new line Wat Po and Grand Palace are easily accessible from Silom although I still recommend taking boat as that trip is much more scenic. As expected Wat Po was bit crowded with hundreds trying to make selfies including Reclining Buddha. From there I took 4 baht ferry to Wat Arun and than substantial rain started. So I abandoned plans to visit Wat Arun , handily Chao Praya Tourist Boat vessel going northbound showed up so I bought 1 way ticket for 60 baht and went to Phra Athit pier surveying rain soaked Bangkok from the river. I was hoping to go to Khao San but rain was bit heavy so wandered around the tourist market at pier , invested in another 60 baht 1 way tickled and returned to Saphan Taksin as 5 p.m. was approaching and you will never guess- for that hour I had another Maha Nakhon ticked , that one bought already at home before trip so it couldn’t be wasted. Sixth time and last this trip , for a change during rain so I had a chance to see Bangkok from there at sunshine , at night and also rain soaked. Surprisingly it was pretty crowded , even if top floor including glass was closed and guarded by wasting his good looks there guard of Moonlight models quality , at least when dressed. Sure , some may say it was excessive to go there so many times in just 2 weeks but I like looking at the city from above, wanted to treat few of my guys with visit there, took advantage of cheap, 250 baht for over 60 rate and most of all, our foray with spoon , jimbillp, A nad Z few days ago was perhaps most memorable moment of this trip which itself was NOT SHORT of excitement. And because of that , there for a second I got that idea that I should go and make surprise visit in Pattaya to see Z once more. Certainly heights got to my head. Returned to hotel to make myself presentable and walked to Hot Male outside bar to see how paulsf’s new vantage point will look like. Actually look good with good view of not only Hot Male but also Dreamboys and Lucky Boys across the soi comings and goings. Maxi in soi Twilight was better but if you don’t have what you like, you like what you have. One of hosts was looking in my direction so I called him over, drink purchased , conversation started and it was fast one as third of fourth sentence uttered by him was already about him marrying me. Some people don’t like to waste time weather talking. It was not quite empty talk as he let me know and feel that something was hardening under his belt line. Unfortunately for him it was not my dowry dispensing day so we put our marriage plans on hold, gave him 100 baht for his time and another 100 for that hard part as hard work deserves fair pay and rolled myself to Moonlight to be there at 9 . Again bar was pretty empty , even stage was emptier tan 2 days ago if only because A was not there even if I told him I will pick him up after tomorrow i.e. today. But system worked very well . One of boys which I tipped twice before just for muscular looks , Pai or Spai, #16 if I recall correctly rushed from the scene to embrace me and whisper ‘ your boy will be soon”. So boy telegraph worked, perhaps because I asked A what is this boy’s nick. Then one of mamasans rushed to tell me that he already called A to tell him I arrived. I was very impressed, two red notes changed hands landing in mamasan’s and Spai’s pockets. Not before long A appeared, both of us beaming smile and quite possibly both were sincere. Since he was already dressed I finished hastily my drink, paid off fee , saving on his drink forced another two red notes on #4 and # 11 and we left , on the street greeted by famous bandanna barker. We returned to Hot Male to see the show . It was heart breaking to watch marriage candidate from 2 hrs. ago seeing his hopes being shattered but considering A’s looks he probably understood why. It was some twink on the stage not derailed by fact that I have guy with me and smiling at me constantly so I tried to extinguish that smile with red note but that made him even more smiling and even second red did not set him straight. Diminutive for my taste but definitely smile was tailored at me , how did he knew? Two big cock show participants got 20 baht each, s participants of ’special” show 100 and then I realized that it is about 11 p.m. and my last meal today was actually breakfast in the morning. Whole busy day run on air and lust only so ever longing for fancy restaurants we went to Foodland just downstairs and had our fill. If you really want to know what I had answer is right here : chicken with cashew nuts. Before we set off we agreed that after normal rituals tomorrow we both go to Icon Siam so he will be with me on extended duty. As often happens , second time was , if that’s at all possible , much better than first as we knew each other better. I skip things he did not like , he volunteered others he noticed I do like and we finished day 12 having very muscular kind of fun, QBE* experience at it’s best *QBE- quasi boyfriend experience -
Chasing dreams and illusions - report of August 2019 trip
vinapu replied to vinapu's topic in Gay Thailand
don' worry , I don't see any offence. My hair is gray because I realized how much I squandered on the guys over years and my heart is full of hope I will be able to waste on them even more in the future. What counts for me is that I think " Thai guys" and I smile. I miss them moment I enter plane to return and long to see them again. Dreadful day may come that I will not feel that way anymore but hopefully it's far away -
Chasing dreams and illusions - report of August 2019 trip
vinapu replied to vinapu's topic in Gay Thailand
# me too -
Chasing dreams and illusions - report of August 2019 trip
vinapu replied to vinapu's topic in Gay Thailand
Thailand hotels are extremely good value for money and nothing wrong in splurging on them if one desires to soak in a bit of luxury but I'm low maintenance guy and while from time to time I splurge on then/ Amara first 2 nights this trip / I don't consider that money well spent. All i need i found in 40$ places , no need to spent 120. But that's me. Good restaurants are even bigger waste of money IMNSHO as quality of food has no relation to an ambiance of the place, I simply don't see any value in better eating places other than setting for a nice meeting and conversation with friends. But that's me Over 19 trips I covered all tourist places many times over , even obscure ones like Bank of Thailand both museums and numerous temples. Not all tourist attractions I even find attractive (Asiatique comes to mind ), I like ruins and have my feed of those in Ayuthaya every so often. But that's me. Retail is on back burner too, in 19 trips I visited cathedrals like MBK , Central Plaza, Siam Paragon, Central Festival of Pattaya and both Terminals 21 grand total 1 or 2 times each maximum. Only Silom Center gets more visits , chiefly because I need to use washrooms passing by as Silom is my base.Chatuchak, again grand total 3 visits over 19 trips since 2001. I may fell in love with Icon Siam though but only with Thai themed first level. Visited twice this month and did not have enough. Even contributed to art market and bought a picture for 1000 / one thousand exactly / baht in support of aspiring artists. But that's me. I'm happy flying cattle class as long as plane is on time and schedule is sensible. First class passengers are arriving exactly at the same time I do. But that's me. My preference are guys , massages and bars well over accommodation , dining and shopping and this is what I go to Thailand for so it will be illogical to cut corners on this type of spending although I have moments when I may be too generous and not enough demanding. But generally I consider to receive expected value for my money and definitely that was a case , bar few unfortunate massages drowning me in oil, on the trip just reported. I expect to have good time delivered to me and I'm prepared to pay for it. When money is short I stay home penny pinching so I can return to better financial position. But again, that's just me. Other may have different preferences and expectancies. -
Adventures in Bangkok, Pattaya & Hanoi Aug - Sept 19
vinapu replied to alex303's topic in Gay Thailand
thank you for great next installment, that picture of the dinner made me actually hungry and salivating- 75 replies
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I like EVA as well but for different reason - they have best BKK schedule both ways from / to where I'm flying from, Nothing wrong with efficiency , service , cleanliness and other attributes as well. Only thing I don't like is that they are charging for seat selection but after all, it'f final price which counts and they are still very competitive
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are you sure ? , specially if we were in Europe in Sept 1939 when war started ?
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Chasing dreams and illusions - report of August 2019 trip
vinapu replied to vinapu's topic in Gay Thailand
you are right but time was short so I decided to not adhere to a script but to catch another hunk ASAP. Not that it was big massage at MyHero but guy was big and his attributes enticing so money well spent -
Chasing dreams and illusions - report of August 2019 trip
vinapu replied to vinapu's topic in Gay Thailand
spoon already answered and I can agree with what he said. One doesn't fall in love because of plan, it just happens , the same like lighting out of blue sky. I go to Thailand to seek fun not true love and since my favorite guys are mostly straight and engaged or visibly busy on apps or with other clients it's easy to detect transactional nature of our relationship. I'm happy to take just memories with me without any additional luggage. -
Chasing dreams and illusions - report of August 2019 trip
vinapu replied to vinapu's topic in Gay Thailand
yes , I know but boy may look at it through different lenses, for them we all have abundance of money to throw around -
I try to visit them all every trip, not always possible. I believe in spreading business but wouldn't not blame those who focus on 1-2 bars only . I had one trip when I was on 13/14 mono diet with Tawan and it worked too. But if we don't bar hop we don't know other opportunities , often like in case above, boy whom we think is gone for good, turns out to be in different bar or massage venue. Yes , it can't be repeated too often, if we want guy badly we should table him right away as there are sharp eyed, fast thinking predator customers out there although my experience in advance booking say today for after tomorrow is somewhat mixed so catch what you see is my rule I try to live by.
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even better idea is to use opportunities we have now as memories are just that , memories . Nice to have them but memories of yesterday's meal are not filling our plate today. Today's meal may not be as tasty but it's what we need not to go hungry and bitter.
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Chasing dreams and illusions - report of August 2019 trip
vinapu replied to vinapu's topic in Gay Thailand
Day 11 We had problem parting with each other in the morning, neither he was in rush to leave which I appreciate nor I was keen on being alone it seems , it was bordering on romantic that long good bye of ours. I promised I will off him once more before I go home but also warned I have other plans for today. He even extracted taxi money from me which is real rarity but I felt he deserves it , if only because that no rush attitude. Usual Foodland breakfast, I swear one of waitresses , veteran there smiled shyly when she saw me with different guy than just 2 days ago. Upon return to hotel they stopped me saying my room is being cleaned now so I used that forced break to survey Kessara hotel nearby in the historical wooden house. It had security guard outside and looked very upscale, I was wondering how other guests would react if I stay here few nights and was bringing different hunk night after night. Despite costs I may be tempted to try in the future, LOL Then I did planned – went to dentist as I had some job to do there. I’m always using Dr Smile on Silom at Patpong. I was lucky as they had space in half an hour even if I did not have appointment. 1.5 hr. of torture and I still left smiling – bill came to much less than I budgeted for leaving me quite a few baht for debauchery. Then a bit of touristy things, went to Wat Hualampong passing by recently closed BBB Inn, door were opened so I could enter inside to see that demolishing process already started. Lots of sweet memories from there but if Roman Empire could disappear, BBB Inn was not immune. Still sad. Whole block now is half abandoned and it’s matter of short time before walls will fall down. In Wat Halampong I noticed that live cows are gone unless they moved them to some obscure corner. From there I took deliberately shortcut to Surawong by soi Wat Hualampong to see Magic Touch by Tree. Easy to spot so went inside , immediately question was asked if I want men or women and it turned out for men to men massage they have other ‘office ‘ around the corner where I was promptly escorted and assigned therapist. Twink without much of English but quite adept in using google translator. Another weak massage with weekly Bahrain’s output of oil lavished on me. Guy himself was pleasant and quite a looker but whole exercise was less then thrilling and at end spoiled by him typing on the phone that he is not salaried , works for tips and his customers are giving him usually 2000- 3000 tip. Sure but not me, gave him 1000 , we both smiled, I chalked it mentally off to experience but I liked place itself, very well organized and appointed and chances are I will give them another chance , there was something I don’t know what that I liked about the place, certainly not oil bath though. In the afternoon after bit of rest in hotel I went again to Senso , again hoping M will be there. And again having goose bumps on approach, what the hell is with that place and Arena that they give me such feeling ? I feel like first timer in those two places and let me tell you it’s very nice feeling. M was there and even approached me but only to tell me that he is already reserved by guy sitting on the couch and finishing his beer. Third time and third not lucky as I really like the guy but I smiled which was easy as I was at dentist today and hoped next time it will work. In my earlier trips I would be upset but over years I learned that it’s best not to bet that our dream guy will be there when we have hots for him. But often we tell guys we will be back and never do so it’s kind of two way deception highway. But it would be nice to see somebody I have so much chemistry with. Rescue was at hand though , Jack , seen last week already and on the same level of skills , personality and body built . So off we went for 1.5 hr session with superb massage and even better masseur. I like how Senso guys are positioning themselves during massage so they do their job on my carcass and at the same time I can do some survey of their charms. Sure place is expensive but I rather have great session for 3000 than oil bath for half of that, but that’s me I guess. Of course it was nice to see Namu , now the boss there again. Whole experience of meeting few of my best massage guys of all times at the same time heated me quite a bit so I marched right to Sala Daeng with next mission – MY Hero in Sukhumvit soi 11. It was while since I was there last time. Place is shiny with upscale feeling , several guys behind the glass , all hunks in various stages of hunkiness and all trying to bring my attention to them. I was only customer at the time . I know , low season and only Wednesday but still it felt strange as I remember that place being very busy . I was really spoiled for a choice but settled on wide shouldered and tall guy, Kim. 1.5 hr session paid 1100 ( less that at Senso where it stands at 1490 ) and off we went to clean and modern room , he directed me to shower and disappeared for few minutes , than showered himself which was quite a spectacle to observe, well built, smooth , well equipped, you get it . He warned me that he is not a gay and went on with massage in true Hero fashion, fast , strong and short. For 1.5 hr session we were done in 15 minutes. But since I had proper massage today I did not mind hoping we can utilize saved time somehow and it worked. It was actually great pleasure to survey such a great body , even if it was already third great body today. I wanted him to be sandbag for me and he played along. 1900 tip well deserved not for what he did but for what he was. Not sure he enjoyed it but surely I did. On my way back to Silom civilization it was another hunk at BTS, very look alike Boonthoon from Tawan. I don’t think it was him although he seem to steer at me as much as I did at him but at last that had effect of prompting me to go to Tawan again, first time since day 1. I came just before show started. Last week I promised Dam #16 , tall , smooth and dark skinned very quiet guy that next time I will be in the bar I off him. He was nowhere to be seen but I asked mamas an if he works today and he went to get him from wherever he was hiding. In meantime Tiger spotted me but I told him he already was my choice on the first day and today belongs to his colleague. Request for tip, nice try was rudely dismissed reminding him he got his tip Sunday last week when I offed him. We both laughed. Waiting for Dam I noticed new body , #11. Well built but not body builder with very handsome face. Roy is his nick. He noticed my interest too and immediately approached me so I invited him for a drink telling him I’m taking somebody else today. Dam showed up so I had pleasure of two hunks , one on the right and one on the left. Not sure who , one of guys or mamasan suggested I tale both but I said that I take two guys only if one fucks another which is actually the truth, exception apply but rarely and not today. So idea was dropped but it was very pleasant to be squeezed between two such bodies at cost of 400 per drink each. Dam , usually very reserved was more active than usually so I guess low season bite him and he was happy to land off today, I learned later his first in 5 days. It felt very promising and feeling proven right quite soon. In meantime show was on , tipped two J/O show participants 100 each , gave Roy 300 for his time and letting me to place my hand here and there and invited Dam to get the hell out of here with me. It was good move to keep my promise to return and off as marching to hotel he seemed very happy and guy is usually very reserved so it was telling. In the room he was not reserved at all let me tell you , I offed him before but this time he was dynamite, wow. And not stupid either, when noticed I enjoy our time together like asked if he gets more if stays longer tomorrow. Ok I promised 1000 extra payable at 10 a.m. and this energized him even more. I really felt like I did good deed tonight and he did his part too. It was almost morning when we finally fell asleep. Great finish of day 11 , day when I had pleasure to be with no less than 4 great bodies, each one worth flying to BKK for. -
Adventures in Bangkok, Pattaya & Hanoi Aug - Sept 19
vinapu replied to alex303's topic in Gay Thailand
thank you for a great and entertaining report, I see now need to return to Vietnam after quite an absence- 75 replies
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Chasing dreams and illusions - report of August 2019 trip
vinapu replied to vinapu's topic in Gay Thailand
Day 10 To catch up with what we missed due to that keycard misfortune it was only 10 am when we left our embraces and started our day and even that only because we wanted to say good bye to spoon leaving today / and pick up my umbrella left with him rainy evening yesterday /. So after desoiling we went to Raya to see spoon and pick up last news before he goes home, then returned to hotel to pack up as Z is leaving me today and I’m , what’s new ?, changing hotel. I left my suitcase on reception to pick her up later, Z took his and at his insistence we went to soi 4 to eat something since he wanted to try something new. There unexpectedly we were greeted by Art , my second night companion on his shift at Nakarat, he asked me to come for massage as today he is leaving for few days to see his parents, I said later as I must go to the airport, he said he will be there till 5 , I gave him 100 baht to buy something to eat , Z picked up something from street stall , I treated myself with some tacos, kind of expensive and not necessarily tasty but I was hungry. Z commented that he noticed boys are treating me with respect ( he met Oud yesterday and now Art ) which was ear pleasing for me but I treat them with respect, not to mention reward them rather fair so no wonder, right ? Then we went to airport , next free bus was in 1 hr so we sat down somewhere to have some talk over beer and as mentioned he is great conversationist . Then we noticed that it’s almost departure time and rushed up which made good bye rather hasty and we avoided any emotions other than Z saying ‘ O’my God” instead of “I miss you already or something equally teary. I don’t know about him but , yes, I missed him mightily as he has both personality and physical attributes not to mention proper attitude. I had 500 baht parting tip ready but in such haste did not manage to hand it over so went back to Bangkok guilt ridden. But life goes on and so does bus carrying Z away so I returned to Glitz , picked up my 8 kg of luggage and rolled it over to Baan Silom in soi 3 where by sheer coincidence I got the same room I was staying last time. I like that hotel as it both close and bit removed from the scene, rooms are big and so are washrooms. Only thing absent was kettle but such things are not derailing vinapu as I always carry metal cup and immense heater . Having tea at the ready is a must for me 25 hrs. a day , 8 day a week. As always in new room I washed whatever I had to wash and went to Nakarat to see Art as promised but unfortunately he was gone already even if it was not even close to 5. Bearer of that gloomy news was skinny twink on youngish side but at least he was pretty tall and cute so we went for 1 hr session of what was supposed to be massage but rather was kind of oil bath as he treated me with probably half day of Kuwait’s output. But he was nice looking and well attributed so I got some value for my money, tipped him my regular 1 hr. 1000 baht tip. Bit feeling down after Z left I went deeper to soi 4 which probably is without sense as I don’t like soi 4 but somehow I parked myself in Welcome Bar in front of Jupiter secretly hoping that mysterious guy I tipped yesterday in Balcony or Telephone, I never know which is which , will pass by but no. Instead I was entertained by one of their waiters, skinny buy witty Lao boy who was yakking non stop but it was quite entertaining and interesting . I laughed at his comment about Chinese being biggest tourist group in the soi : ‘ China big men but cock small ‘, not sure it’s true but he made impression he is in the field for quite a while. At 8 I made round though Silom , Patpong , Suriwong , Thaniya and around 9 I went to Moonlight. Bar was quite empty , perhaps all of 5-6 customers but buys were crowding scene anyways, among them A. Attention ggobkk and spoon!!! as soon as I entered at least 2 if not 3 mamasans immediately asked me ‘ where are your friends? “ So obviously we made some impression and no wonder as both did not leave empty handed. Yesterday atop of Maha Nakhon I told A next time he will see me in the bar I will be there for him and it was exactly it. Waved him over right away- such hunk is always in danger of being picked up by somebody just entering bar, ordered drink , told him to dress but warned I want to spend some time in the bar watching guys and in fact distributing 2 or 3 tips as well , just for a look. That prodded him to ask me to tip his cousin working there and I obliged, why not built some karma at expense of 100 baht ? 500 off fee paid and we went to eat something – it was my first meal not counting beer at airport and soi 4 since noon time breakfast. On our way I was stopped by bandanna boy who mentioned something about tip but I did not want to spoil him , but he took my stinginess with good humor. After dinner we went to Fresh Boys where show was already on , they had some problem with music and I felt sorry for performers in candle number who somehow carried on , music or not. Than it was real” special’ show and it looks those are making come back to the bar scene. One of bar boys did not pay any attention I’m already with the guy and was clearly indicating some adoration of me which could work as he was quite handsome and muscular but not tonight as I had real steely muscled guy beside. But of course another red note changed hands. It was enough if idleness that evening so finally A and me marched to the hotel where he proved his worth. Much more reserved than Z but still conversing freely with 1st class smooth body enforced with steel and concrete turned out very clingy as well. Sure , at one point he complained that he can’t sleep but it was dismissed by me that # me too and we both laughed. He has whole life to sleep but I have only 2 weeks of vacation to sample him was even more convincing. Day 10 was over with 8 consecutive long time, no rush in the morning, offs, no wonder was humming Thai national anthem when we kind of waked up. -
it makes sense as in old bar slowly but surely guys are becoming boring staple for many customers while in the new place they acquire novelty value. I suspect many customers are frequenting only few favorite places and are not familiar with offerings in other bars / it took me 9 trips to go to Tawan for a first time for example, I know veterans of the bar scene who never been to Moonlight, Screwboys or Jupiter /
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In rainy season I'm using 110% accurate umbrella app. I.e. I carry umbrella with me either in my day pack or my hand all the time. It works, spoon is my witness and beneficiary of that approach. Bangkok is pretty big and close to the sea and it's quite possible Silom will be under rain but Chatuchak or Swampy not or other way around. Z and me tested it when we arrived from Pattaya on sun, Sept 1. As far as Makkasan station it was dry but at Chong Nonsi , few km and 15 minutes away it was raining very heavily, I mean it.
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no, I'm Ok. just tested
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another nail in the coffin of that soi
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with such vantage point we should be able too bear plenty
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Chasing dreams and illusions - report of August 2019 trip
vinapu replied to vinapu's topic in Gay Thailand
you got all that right great night for us too !!! Z mentioned you many times so obviously he enjoyed conversation with you as well. To bad you were departing that night as I'm not that possessive and would let him to have coffee, perhaps even with cream cream with you if requested , Stay tuned as there will be more of those two.