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100 million people in Ethiopia or 140 in Nigeria e.t.c. doesn't make them mighty nations unfortunately , first for their own people

too bad Tiger from Tawan and Art from Nakkarat did not read what you said above when I took them (on separate nights of the same trip ) there, LOL Nothing against Amara but in my books is memorized as ' bad luck for LT hotel "

while I agree with you I'd like to recall what I posted recently in another thread. Depending on circumstances, what we classify as uneconomic or outright exploitation , it may still be a life line for a boy. When I visited ARENA last month I was their last customer for a day and I was told only 5th that day. It means most of their boys as there were more than 10 flexing when I entered did not even make enough to pay for simple meal, not to mention bus fare.

that's another good news for us

+1

I agree. Own principles and also own calculations. They know more about their income stream than us. What we consider generous , they may consider cheap. On another hand customer we will call cheap Charlie, in boys eyes just threw him life line. Some also live from day to day and if they make enough today, they resolve to worry tomorrow about tomorrow. When we think about that , at end of day it's how we handle our own household economy sometimes spending money on things we can't afford , at other times being ridiculously frugal.

even if true don't forget it's from much lower base. 4.1% of 1000 is only 41, 2.8% of 2000 is 56. You probably, like most of us , agree that 56 is more than 41

exactly , and they don't need any flags to know how to provide excellent service ( for me historically Lao are # 1 )

not quite true. some rooms at Quarter Saladaeng, Furama Xclusive Sathorn, Silom Convent Garden and even Raya I'm familiar with , have quite a bit of storage space, although not for six guys. Some rooms in Baan Silom soi 3 have niche under the window concealed by drapes where two can hide easily and comfortably But generally you are right , I have better use of my money than luxurious accommodation

You live in paradise 13 months a year and you expect us, suffering 30 hours trips to get there just to share your misery for 2-3 weeks to feel sorry for you ? no way I'd say. as for 2nd part , old advice seem to be lost on you ' you want love in Thailand , rent it"

great observations and confirming what I found. Only thing boys should remember is that market works both ways. Being too firm may yield higher income but also chase customer away , tonight or for good. Boys have choices and I like that part but so do we and I like that part as well . I stopped seeing two great bodied semi-regulars only because one was too firm asking for more than our regular rate, another one asked to cut our regular 3 hrs session by 1 hr because he had another customer. Fine , good for you and good bye for now. BoyzBoyzBoyz firmly established itself as boy bar for girls , off fee is ridiculous 1050 and it the wish to ask 5000 just to chase customer away , fine with me , again there are choices nearby, short walk or 2 hrs by bus away. But before we take any offence, they must be doing something right as bar seems to be packed night after night and boys, fully dressed, are still crowding the stage. Doesn't appeal for many but certainly does for scores of others

It happens from time to time and long ago I found it to be mood killing as I'm generally not competitive. So now when I sense it may develop I yield immediately " you go with him , I off you tomorrow ( or another day ) " . Some boys will be happy to switch, some will stay with me, its how market works sand they should decide what works for them. And so do we - if I promise tomorrow, I always return. Few times I even paid off fee day in advance. If I promise another day it may be few days or few trips away. If I promise to take boy next day or later today I always tell them when I pick them up. This way they know if they can go or have drink with another client.

calling member names is not allowed on this forum, lol

he got the same answer and still got lucky. I guess blend of personal charm and great negotiating skills helped.

worst possible outcome would be paying shop's fee for 1 hr massage on top of boy's tip

Yummiest pizza in the entire world IMNSHO

+1 add to the list Glam Spa, many guys shared by both venues And there's PRESTIGE by Chong Nonsi station, no perponal exeprience there but one of our members got lucky there. Senso and VCK may or even will fit OP requirements . they may not be shiny or staffed by 5 stars models but dodgy ? most certainly not. Don't plan too much , pick up one of the venues listed and hope for the best. I'd be surprised if you leave disappointed. I personally being you would start with Jey

18 years old goes to hotel room invited by the guy she just met at shopping center , hmmmmm

I'm happy with what we have now as I can't find use for last winter's snow, however white and soft it was

Boys Nighclub I think is the new name

Like my former boss's secretary once said " we don't have friends from current work, we have from previous one"

I wonder , don't all those people who exercise that hard get tired? I would certainly die after working with those dumbbells, not to mention running machines

some probably claim to be working in hotels, restaurants and other ' normal' jobs so families may not even know source of their income. As aside note , there's guy on Grindr I know who escorts as side job as he has full time one in one of warehouses ( not married though for all I know) - ideal call when I need somebody mid day, say noonish as he works 4pm to 12am

try another booking site and / or hotels website. This is how I landed space there in January this year - Agoda had nothing but some other platform yielded room available. The same happened with ThaiThai resort in Sukhotai so speaking from personal experience.

as garbage strewn all over I guess ........................... I wish I could agree with you but based on my somewhat disappointing and at times disastrous trip in August , low of low seasons, I did not detect any desperation, quite opposite I very much doubt about it's existence based on some guys behavior and lacking of even try to pretend they understand what client service is. I doubt very much that it was just my bad luck only.