vinapu

I don't drink vodka, too much water in it, hence name derived from Slavic voda = water. Only barbarians are diluting drinks with ice. Best drink is 50% GIN AND 50% GIN, too late to ask Queen Mother to confirm

yes and no, this is what I said : "ust tell him how much bus ticket costs at home and when he compares your 100 baht to his 6.50 it will do the trick", Even if you don't pay find out how much ticket is and use that as your secret weapon

you are right, I'm of opinion that only animals are drinking water

What? another suspension? One a day would be enough, there are older men here with high blood pressure LOL

I wonder what did you drink this morning

Just tell him how much bus ticket costs at home and when he compares you 100 baht to his 6.50 it will do the trick , at least did it for me on few occasions when we had such discussion.

1. you not only one with that feeling, this is reason I prefer long times over short time styrofoam. 2. I understand using google maps to find breakfast place although being old timer I still use my eyes but how do you know it's good one ? 3. Very smart, I'm all for generosity for boys but for something in return. If they get money just for asking we have point 4. 4. If that's true, I don't want to sound cruel but he deserved to go hungry for a while to get his brain in the balance. But being you I'd think ' nice try" with such a story, he still deserved to go hungry for lying. waiting for more , you are master of suspense? Was Hitchcock your ancestor?

fortunately he may have serious relationship with your wallet and may do very good job pretending he loves you, particularly if he happens to like you

just running through all places mentioned in the posts above will keep you occupied for many trips, start with Arena

Often overlooked Magic Hands in soi Ngham Duplee where Malaysia hotel is is considered by some as hidden gem, not luxury but usually well appointed by rather twinky boys with superb massage skils, never disappointed there. to answer Michael querry I think all comes to sheer luck, not any particular place , after all it can be only one boy on duty in shabby place who may take us to 7 heaven and beyond. While I mourn HERO like countless others I must say that I had better massage experience in just two visits in new but shabby SuperHero. My list of best massages below may illustrate how random it is and that we may find superb service not necessarily in places and by the boys we expect. in no particular order: 1. Fai in Arena, still there and were recent reports here that he is still in superb form 2. M at Senso, was not there in Jun and possibly gone but porn star of few movies one would expect to play primadonna turned up very skillful, accommodating and pleasant to be with 3. Tao from Banana, now at BBB Inn, Wat Po trained and it shows. Can't imagine trip without seeing him at least once 4. One , go-go boy from SCREWBOYS, you wouldn't expect such high level of massage skills from go-go but he delivered. Looks he is gone home for good but I still mourn his absence, my best off ever but this has not much to do with massage anyways 5. Name forgotten boy from Sun massage beside Tawan, place pretty run down but his technique was amazing, like three hands massaging me , never saw him again but possibly still there 6. Nick in Pattaya, this one is still in business and was mentioned very recently in one of threads, non-sexual but who knows if he likes you ? Has motorbike and can be your diver / guide as well. While PRINCE seem to be new king and is by far classiest of all places I still keep trying to have massage there I will remember like those above. Chances are I will have since I have word that O from Hero moved there and he deserves place in the list above

and since most of them are coming from poor families with not much money at disposal to speak of at home they did not have a chance to learn it. Now they are coming to big city, getting 1000 baht tip and for second or two they feel affluent, hence those taxi trips, telephones and motorbikes on payment plans. At end of day I don't blame them, after all youth is wasted on young. We pretend to be smarter but how many farangs sunk tons of money chasing love which never materialized and replacing countless dead buffalo in the process

tell us something we don't know

his name is Art and he actually can give you very good massage as well, speaking from personal experience.

there are people here with long memory, be warned

Don't worry , they would be amazed perhaps but certainly not to create any problems. I had my fun at Raya with multiple visitors in the begining of Jun , at times they look at me with amazement but never with contempt.

Jasper , I'm shocked !

they should go with their wives and introduce them to Tawan of Jupiter boys. no doubt both boys and wives will be thrilled , not sure about your friends though

now I think Raya is a formidable competitor to Tartawan but what do I know about hotels?

do not discount what boy said, sure they like our money but it doesn't mean they loose an interest once paid. Yes they just may like us, quite a few times I noticed that boy even if paid is in no rush to leave and kind of anxious to linger a bit longer - good opportunity to steal some kisses. Security guards saw it all and even more plus probably they are trained not to blink an eye. You don't need to answer as it's nobody's business but I'm curious like hell, why you did not keep such a gem till morning ?

Vinapu is right here. I enjoy numazu posts immensely , better written, more entertaining and much more personal than my dry productions. We can only hope than more members will chip in with their reports as those are keeping forum vibrant and worth returning to every day,

Certainly you were ! 2000 USD = 75000 baht, much more than I spent on all offs on my last trip, 11 overnights out of that 4 including second helper , also overnighter. I never felt bad about this and now I feel even better.

never believe any pictures, recommendations and complains, go check and see, then only you will know. Some of those boys in flesh are half as intimidating and twice better looking in the flesh than above and there's plenty of boys there which are on muscly side but far from bodybuilders size it that's what puts you off. Not trying to convert anybody because I was the same , too attached to what I read and pictures I saw until finally entered bar on 9th trip and offed my first boy from there on my 10th.

and this brings entirely new subject. Most of us probably don't realize how many boys are intimidated by the big city and don't know their way around. Once Arena boy / around the corner from Chong Nonsi BTS / told me he never took a BTS because he doesn't know how to go about it.

She wasn't entirely wrong, was she?

hope one day you venture to Club 61 since there were no reports from there for a good while, I hope they still operate