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Steve as long as you stay away from model thread you talk a lot of sense I can agree with wholeheartedly like in those 2 posts quoted above

I understand you are not happy but it seems that at the same time you did not like to much of an attention and feel that you did not get attention you deserve. Don't give up on bar , not to mention whole soi after one unhappy experience , what about all those times you left happy previously? As for other areas try, you guessed rightly , Screwboys, trek to soi 6 and check on all 4 bars there and don't forget about Boy66 and Jupiter2018. It goes without saying that Pattaya is only 2 hours by bus away, if you like twinks you will feel at home there.

converted from host bar to go-go with the same name

don't blame them , I know them . Nice guys all

get better fast , it's very unhealthy to get sick. Try not to have your A/c in the room too low as moving from cold room to steamy street doesn't do any good. Keep smiling and you will be better soon hopefully. Thos things happens from time to time unfortunately, long trip, dream vacations and all of then sudden illness. I recall TMax, poster here had the same misfortune few months ago.

in America you are getting shot in the church so what chance one has by visiting gay massage place ? As for Latin America , often is cheaper to fly to Asia than say to Buenos Aires or Asuncion , Paraguay

Great report and you need to be praised for delivering on your promise to post trip report. Not always a case with posters asking for advice and information here and promising to report back. Great choice of hotel, you should be happy in Raya. Apart from medication for your heartburn /acid problems try to sleep / lay on your left side. Should give you at least some relief. By A Boys probably you mean Super A bar. Don't give up on them , in Sept they had few nice boys you may like. With your back problems make sure massage boys don't mutilate you too much. Have fun and forget about health problems

“Corruption is rampant, courts are unreliable, and the political system is unpredictable to say the least.” Those seem to be main obstacles to progress according to an article and it's hard to disagree

You surely mean " this time next year", don't you?

and often those predictions are from people who in the same breath admit to not visiting those places for long time. It's not that they are entirely wrong as shrinking of bar industry can be seen with bare eye but as you noticed above , it's supply and demand. Now when most visitors are Asians dynamic of industry may change in line of their preferences. My guess is bars with shows will do better then those without and those with more hunky men which seem to be choice of younger Asians may do better than those with twinks sough after by older farangs. My last visit was in September , said to be lowest of low season but it did not seem to me that low and slow compared to my usual December trips and tons of fun was to be had not to mention that some boys did not seem to be desperate for an offs at all. You may be right about Adam Smith, I just wonder what was his favorite Bangkok bar ?LOL

Christian and B-Boys ? Noo, they are too fat for him

and teasers they are, not usual poses of guides are advertising their skills

in high season chances somebody will brave that mess to see the boys are higher because more people on the ground. In low season such a works could mean strangulation of soi's businesees

I was there for 2 weeks in September and believe you me , quite a few of then did very well of me. I did not sense anywhere any desperation , quite opposite , few of them had nerve to reject my proposal for lucrative long time contract preferring half price short times. Their choice , my savings.

I'm of school of dealing directly with boy. Only mamasan I'd be inclined to let be involved is Art from Arena. On another hand I must say mamasans at Screwboys helped me few times / when asked / so I'm not against slipping them 50/100 baht from time to time

I'm not saying that all are using those enhancements but definitely some do excatly this is how it looked

soi looks seriously messed up but we can hope they will upgrade surface somehow. I'd be still willinng to beat that mud to see the show at XBoys

Right under Pavilion Place hotel in the covered pathway

I wonder if they increased their drink prices as I paid 300 as recently as Sept. Or perhaps they charge more after midnight to take an advantage they are open longer than soi Twilight bars? Did boy ask for 2000 or you gave him that out of good heart?

I don't think this is specific to Thai boys only . Isn't it how our Western charities operate? You send them donation and shortly after you are bombarded with requests for more

and their late night show / 1 a.m. / if they still have it may be quite interesting . I agree with accolades from Wheelz above, Screwboys rarely disappoints ( I may be biased because my best boy ever was from there )

plenty, Christmas Day is Monday this year so normal working day in Thailand

I agree that pleasure we get from them is worth more that few additional hundred but those requests seem to escalate. This is not specific to Thai boys but it seems is universal whenever we extend helping hand. It's why my policy in respect of Thai boys is to pay them generously for their time spent with me but no exchanges of any contacts / Line , facebook , phone , e-mail etc /. If they offer to provide their phone number I will take it but I never ask to. Only time I did provide my e-mail address it turned to disaster, after few casual exchanges of news request for a loan , yeah, right. Then out of blue request for substantial donation complete with bank account number. Only way to stop it was to show up in the bar and actually make boy upset by offing somebody else in his plain view. Painful but necessary move and it worked.

it's why I always order bottle or can of beer or if bar serves it hot tea or coffee. As for an erection some just get it , some help to maintain it by using cock ring , some are taking pills and unfortunately some are using an artificial stffy. I heard about it before but I did not believe it's a case until , on actually last trip and in then same bar when invited by the circulating boy to try his goodies I did , perhaps too energetically , and two things artificial and real separated. In split of the second boy was gone , lost face I' afraid. I actually don't mind this kind of cheating as modern silicons are giving an impression of real , hard and warm thing but it helps to be aware I guess that if we get amorous and off boy , in the room we may get a bit different size than we sampled in the bar.

I need to e-mail that guy that if he finds a full wallet , it's mine !