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that's 1960 savings for somebody who decides to spent evening watching TV of just wandering streets. If one had 2 rounds of drinks and offed boy likely had quite a good time so still may consider that money well spent. there are ways of still having fun for much less: -off boy without buying a drink, easy if you already know him, just wave him over ask if he goes with you , pay off fee and go -watch the show alone , prey on boy , wave him over etc, no need to sit with him in most cases -there are cheaper bars but show may be nonexistent or abbreviated and choice of boys smaller -no off fee on apps and after hours when boys are going home , hunting for an occasion on the street may be even fun. Bottom line is, we are buying those drinks not because of thirst but as a ticket for an entertainment. And is up to us to assess if it's worth expense or not. Basically the same like with movies , live theater, concerts, museums or sightseeing. Yes , 1960 it's outrageous but in both Pattaya and Bangkok we have a choice , the same like at Swampy. One can take train to Silom for 73 including BTS or taxi for 380 including tolls. More comfort , more money. What option brought more fun- depends on individual assessment / no eye candy in taxi but driver may be handsome /

Now you are talking !!!

map is actual one , only new thing is replacement of Balls bar at end of soi with some open air restaurant. in 2013 Zeus bar beside Dicks / shown as grey area on the map / was still operational, it closed at Christmas time in 2014. Zeus is still standing at front I guess

On Oct 30th it will be all over. Not sure others agree but I'd not start my first visit in Thailand with Pattaya, go to Bangkok first as it gives you better grip of country than essentially provincial backwater with pockets of great entertainment Pattaya is.

I doubt is was boy's decision , I rather expect police influence that boys are dressed and outside show at 9.00 ceased. I'd not call BBB trap, considering quantity and quality of boys and show and similarly like Dreamboys is pulling bigger crowds than other bars in vicinity. We may not like prices but those bars are not traps, in fact I can't think about any boy bar in both Bangkok and Pattaya I'd call trap.

I'd not count on that

so do some in Thailand but what riled some of us is difference between regular / 280 / and boy /450/ drinks like some molestation and probing would be already included in the price or gnash your teeth , budget accordingly and pay up. Most of us probably have few boys in mind we would be gladly sitting beside them, semi-naked in close proximity for 15 USD

I'd say soso service is acceptable and in fact when comes to paid encounter hardly we can expect any foreworks because heat component is missing. To Thai boys credit it needs to be said they show affection zillion times more than it could be expected for this type of encounter , often with patron twice or trice of their age with beauty carefully hidden. But since encounter is compensated, 'no ' for service is not acceptable, no matter what they like. If they promise to kiss , they should , if going long time , they should stay long time etc. Again I need to credit them then they understand it mostly very well. My favorite example would be one Tawan boy clearly sleep deprived by me who, when asked stupidly 'did you get some sleep ?' answered 'no, but you don't pay me to sleep", unrequested taxi money duly followed.

it's Ok, I will be home LOL

and you will let us know how it went ?

no need for that , both types have rent to pay so we need to keep them in gainful employment so it's good our boats are rocked by different specimens

Overall, considering quality of show and boys, I consider BBB best bar not only in Pattaya but in Thailand , perhaps because all my offs from there were at least 5 out of 5

exactly , up to the last baht, 300 tip and 150 drink

or perhaps Chinese don't realize they are supposed to tip boy sitting with them and bar decided to tackle that problem in such an innovative way, hence such big difference between patron's and boy's drinks. One of my Tawan boys regularly was complaining that Chinese are not tipping when in the bar, did not complain about bad tipping for offs though. no, better to vote with wallet and instead of buying boy drink it's better to slip him say 200-300 for pleasure of being close to us in the bar. Definitely I'd not be shy to complain that's too expensive although it's mostly academic for me , usually I make my mind pretty fast and am on my way or watch the show alone and take boy after

not necessarily, in former Funny Boys one was served small bag of peanuts with drink ordered, but granted , it was exception. BoyzBoyzBoyz better make sure thay have enough boys in their stable worth sitting with at a price of 450 instead of just offing them without any drinks. I suspect this new boy's drink price may not have as much to do with greed as with influx of Chinese who may have boys sitting with them and then leaving without a tip. Hope some of this 450 finds way to boy's pocket.

Perfect vantage point for shy types. One my have a meal and under that disguise survey boys available at Bangkok Massage , just across the soi without any pressure. Everybody who is not comfortable with selection process can treat that as training exercise. Dick's beside Bonny's further in the soi is good as well.

definitely, in view that regular drink is 280 which is still high for Pattaya, 450 is rip-off and perhaps scam, Thank you for warning, it looks that we need to ask how much is a drink if we are planning on treating boys or waiter with it

reminds me conversation I had with one of Senso boys while ago. I asked him my usual questions about liking girls or boys and being top or bottom and while he was firmly for boys for second question he answered 'both but I don't know". According to his explanation it was always some unidentified spark which made him devoted bottom at one time and top only few hours or even next customer later and he did not understand how it works for him.

pretty steamy afternoon and evening, thank you for sharing ! 500 for show - new Jupiter pays very generously so show boys may be quite demanding when it will come to tips with this kind of guaranteed earnings. Not that I'm concerned , market will sort it out but noted this matter of factly.

no need to worry about ID, LOL

Me and comprehending anything ? Thank you for overestimation. Difference is irrelevant since we are not trying to ignite discussion which type has an advantage over other. All comes down to how we are wired. Some are for twinks , coffee and window seat, others for hunks , tea and seat in the aisle. It's even more nuanced than that. I have friend in this forum who shares my taste in men and we visited many bars and massages together and yet over years , not even once, we had to 'fight' over boy. There's this "something " which makes us always picking up an interest in that other boy on display.

agreed. sometimes we have dilemma in bars or massages. We see one or few boys of interest , at times of VERY BIG interest but it's plain that they are either not even noticing us or trying to avoid our eyes not to mention this modern disease of them being glued to their smartphones. And then what to do ? In front of us is boy dreams are made of , sometimes one we hunted for during few visits to the place to no avail and all of the sudden he is there, gorgeous like semi-god but ignoring our presence. Go with your lust and hope behind the closed door he will show an appreciation of our custom or give up on him since he is not interested. What will be advice and course of action? I used to go with the lust , hell, he is not interested but I'm , finally nailing him so off him and see what happens. Sometimes it worked but only usually with older , more experienced and hence more professional guys. In most cases no, leading to classic ' 'you cum , I'll go" , sooner the better, routine climaxing with bold request for taxi money and sprint to the door. Now I learned, thanks in big part to spectacular failure by certain Dreamboys boy / no longer there but still in business / that no interest from boy means just that and it's better to save money and time and let it go. I don't even blame them, understanding that even if in business they still have option of liking or not their prospective patrons. Sure , here and there I'd be making exception but at least doing that I'm fully prepared that money will be wasted. Thanks God , there are nice surprises every so often but as I said above , usually with more experienced, more professional men . So for me it's either smile, wink or nod or no business.

Suriwong's hotel short time rooms are right across the Suriwong from soi Twilight. All boys should know that location although some may steer you to BBB Inn. Word of warning - my info may be outdated as last time I used short time room there was about 10 years ago if not more so better ask to see room before commitment. Again , boys would know

I'd say while opinions and recommendations on this and other forums are of great value it's best to go and see for ourselves as everybody's priorities and experiences may vary. As for Dreamboys one of my best boys ever and one the worst by far were both from there. On one visit I considered all 50+ boys on display offable, not long after I couldn't even find one I could possibly think about offing. And pretty much this can be said about every bar so bottom line again- go and check for yourself. Bar may be disaster but if only one boy shines , that's enough to made your day or even vacations. And there's no use of scene full of eye candies if none of them smiles at you and expresses any interest in you.

Buying drink is no problem but twink? I rarely buy twink or rather twink's body and time for myself. not really my area of expertise , LOL.