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rightly so as it will be extremely rude and yes , may result in abuse. How you would react if stranger on the street 25 years your senior out of blue asked you " can I fuck you for 1000 baht ' ?

so likely you don't like going to Thailand as it's not a country for shy types. But my suggestion is -brave yourself and go. To answer another question , yes if bellboy would be attractive I will be trying to cruise him and look for reactions. If positive or encouraging I'd ask him if he is interested in seeing my stamp collection. Or even better he may actually be one who suggests that. This is how I landed guy I met on street by chance and coincidence few times during few consecutive days. On the third meet I asked him how are you to which he answered 'one day we should have drink together". Then it was kind of easy- drink, than dinner, after dinner he suggested we buy some beer and drink in my room where in turn it was too hot to stay fully dressed. At end of session I asked if I can give him some money for taxi to which he answered 'of course'. Now whenever I'm in Bangkok I let him know and he tells me when he can come and see me. Things came to a point he calls himself " I'm your daytime boy, you have many night time boys" so bottom line - have eyes wide opened and look for encouraging signs

one you see boy you like

correct , Lumpini park direction is one you want take . If you turn left you need to turn left almost immediately to soi 6 where are so many massage shops danger is you will stop there for massage and debaucheries and never rich soi 4 which is your destination

keep in mind Phuket is more expensive than Pattaya and getting there from Bangkok involves 80 $ flight while you can get to Pattaya by bus for 5 $.

leaving Tarntawan turn right on Suriwong street, keep walking until you hit Patpong night market but still keep walking as next street is Patpong 2 where boy bars are. Turn right there , parade along bars then Unesco Heriatge Foodland Patpong, street will narrow a bit nd soon you will be on Silom. Turn left on Silom and after 100 m you hit soi 4

guide may be helpful as logistic of getting there is a bot complicated, you need to take one train, cross the canal by ferry and then to take another train to the market itself which is just before terminal station. You can go by taxi but it will be much more expensive and in my opinion best way to experience train market is actually to be on the train instead of watching it passing while standing on the ground.

don't assume anything about BBB and don't count it will change anytime soon as it was the same last year and both times I was there this year , in Jan and Aug. I was told and I have good source there that boys are free to undress, yes only few are taking advantage of that freedom. Apparently Chinese girls like it that way. coupled with 1050 off fee, I have no idea how often their guys are offed, but yet scene is full of boys so something is keeping them loyal to the bar.

walk from Tarntawan hotel to soi 4 ?

as spoon said , in Patong it may be hard work to find one and even harder to hook up with one but I seen few in Zag Club. If you go there keep your eyes opened but leave expectancies in the room. If it happens , happens. In Pattaya it may be easier as hunks definitely exist and are available in Boyztown . In BoyzBoyzBoyz it may be plenty but those days there are covered from head to toe, only few will be bare chested so it's hard to assess them. Heed Spoon's advice and start with Dreamboys. I had luck in Jan and Aug so you will have too most likely

I second Muang Boran suggestion. It has miniatures of Thailand's most important buildings (plus Cambodia's PreahVihear temple so better don't take Cambodian boy with you there). day trip to train market in Mae Khlong may be fun also half day foray to Nakhon Phatom big stupa In close vicinity of Silom, Snake farm and often just passed by Wat Hualampong, also Hindu temple further down Silom past Furama Silom hotel. boat trip down the ChaoPraya , toward the sea as everybody goes up, toward Grand Palace. take BTS, MRT or SRT red line to any far away station and explore random neighbourhood there Golden Mount by Saen Saep calan boat Bank of Thailand Museum by Rama VIII bridge

do yourself a favour and try both. Comments and /or pictures on media may steer you in the right direction but nothing replaces nice tingling felt when you look and see reaction of real guy. ...................................... I fully agree with you about older and experienced part. With that comes better reading client and making sure that he gets what he wants and it may result in both better tip and repeat business. But sometimes they may tend to be repetitive in their motions But if one is into younger guys , that may be more important that actual service so there's no golden receipt for good time encompassing all. Younger guys may lack service but may beat older guys on enthusiasm. It's why I repeat to a point of being boring " go and see for yourself " and "one statistic sample is not a base to formulate an opinion". Unless there was genuinely bad will or behavior always give a venue or boy second chance remembering it was you who chose them at first place so it was some reason for that. One more thing , don't try to over think or over organize your venture, just go and see.

first I glance boys over and short list them to ones I like, then from those I pick up ones who are looking , smiling or motioning at me. In short I need an eye contact initiated by them. The same applies in bars. I learned that if I like boy but he seems to be disinterested chances of unsatisfactory session are rising exponentially although exceptions apply, not too often though.

perhaps they feel more secure and comfortable in the herd ?

tea money envelope turned out to be empty inside ? Happened to me last month, went to XOne to exchange some money and it turned out I grabbed wrong , already empty, envelope from safe box.

replace 'pretty' with ' very '

I feel sorry for renters to be put in this position but rules are rules and if those need to be demolished so be it. If heavy rains would cause collapse of villa built on the slope illegally it would be screaming ' who allowed it to be built there " immediately

best way is to go and see oneself. Money speaks and even in "straight" bar with screaming girls one may get lucky as thre are no boys like straight boys

What a sophisticated piece of comment !

I like # 12 and # 26 the most

unless you forget your walking stick aboard

I doubt he knows me or even heard about me. Jomtien Complex is my hunting ground to very limited extend and even at that , I usually engage massage rather tah bar boys from there. But need to add one of my best boys ever , Z, was from @home bar

it's why all kinds of boys are finding gainful employment. Any type will find his paying admirer sooner or later

it's why I stay home now 😄

sounds like cheating , no? And watch your karma, you may find yourself needing that stick indeed, perish the thought