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Today ill be doing some tourist stuff during the day. My first stop is sanctuary of truth.ive googled and read that seongthaw didnt go there so i try to get a motorsai. Ive read one thread before with members telling how dangerous a motorsai ride is in pattaya, so i am not so sure if i want a motorsai or took taxi initially. However, not long after my walk, not even reach royal garden plaza, a motorsai stopped to drop a customer and i saw the rider is a 40-50 year old women. I guess my prejudgement kicks in and tells me if anyone would be a safe motorsai rider, itll be this one and i was right. The ride to the sanctuary of truth was a breeze and very comfortable with no near misses lol. I did have to haggle a bit and we landed on a price for a return trip. When i arrived at the location, bought the ticket (500 baht). There are several package of tickets combines with several other attraction (boat rides etc) but it didnt interest me one bit. The temple itself is very impressive, made totally of woods carving and it is massive indeed. Its definitely worth the ticket price, but one time visit is probably enough to see the whole thing. One of the highlight is the lift for disable and elderly, beautifully masked by wooden carving, making it looks like a very old style man powered lift lol. Worth to note also is the workshop area where u can see some of the woods carving still being produced/restored. I spend around an hour or so and then make my way back to south pattaya for lunch. After lunch, i went back to hotel to cool down, and went out around 4pm to another tourist attraction, ripley's believe it or not museum. I use my musepass for free entrance to the museum, but there are other attractions here that might be worth a visit. Ticket price without musepass is around 600 baht, so i already made back my money worth (thanks to christianpfc for the recommendation). Its my first visit to a ripley's museum, and ive been watching the tv shows a lot when i was a kid, so this museum is definitely a worthwhile trip if you are into this kind of weird, creepy stuff lol. I toured the shopping mall after and then made my way back toward walking street to have dinner. Went back to hotel after dinner to rest and get ready for my bar visit tonight. On a side note, i have tried to made some contact from the forum and arrange a meet in pattaya. Its my first time here and it wasnt planned ahead of time, plus i dont take note about members in the forum who are usually in pattaya as my previous focus are mostly bangkok. So i made a dedicated thread asking for anyone who like to meet. Happy to report, i met two forumers that will be in this report soon. Also included few pictures from the tourist visits. Another side notes, while touring the floor where the museum is, there is a display (pic) that says see how the black hole works. Its bacially a cone shape with the radius getting smaller the closer u are to the gravitational singularity (the center). And how do you do it? Roll a coin, thats right, your precious coins, along the diameter and watch your coins slowly consumed by the black hole. At first i thought, who would be stupid enough to do this, and not long after that some one did lol 3 times haha. The sign should say watch how we collect money from the stupid. Hehe. Kidding aside, i am amazed at how people think of ways to squeeze moeny from other people lol

Id never write off the bar. Went there twice and will go there again, their boys selection usually suit my taste, though other bars like moonlight, jupiter are catching up too. Tawan had definitely been a disappointment on my last trip though, but still wont give up that bar too lol

I guess visit to the club (all expense paid) and hanging out with friends in a hotel room is enough excitement for some boys. As babe dont really go out with customer for sex anyway (jury is still out there, havent read anyone off him for sex yet), he is definitely not your regular money boy. Dunno why im not really attracted to this beautiful perfect specimen of a thai guy lol. Maybe too pretty? His body is gorgeous though.

I guess guys we took dont really use that na word. Is it have something to do with them being the manly type? Like you, i like my guys in the 30s, so thats why i think it has something to do with age, similar to korean.

Since i didnt catch anyone using that when talking to me, does that mean they are not polite with me? Hahaha granted guys i took most dont speak good enough english, the two that actually speak really good english last trip didnt use any. But they are both slightly older age than me lol.

Glad to write a first timer report! I still consider myself quite new to thailand, so many places (especially massage places) that i havent visit yet. Dreamboys had been my favorite bar, though i only took one guy on my last trip. One of the joy seeing the show is having a guy u like sitting next to you during the show and they started to fill you in about who is their friend, who only go with women etc. I actually dont like hanging out in bars, and only there for the boys and boys in the show. Sad to hear their shows isnt as good anymore, especially only older guys do the shows. I guess many of their former stars have been poached by other bars. On my first trip to dream boys, i landed a guy that i took again for five times in two trips lol. Part of the show i didnt even see, since my eyes were fixed on that guy who is working out at the gym area. Summon my courage to first go to the toilet next to the gym area to have a closer look, gave him a smile, went in the toilet, and came back out and give him a tips and got a shocked face from him, a smile and wai after that and back to my seat lol not long after, i called mamasan to call him for a drink. We talked a bit and didnt take me long before offing him, my first off from dreamboys. The rest is history lol. I covered about him quite a lot on my previous trip report but sadly on my last trip, he said he stopped working in bar and was not in bangkok when i go there. Miss him dearly.

I had to google mai pen rai after reading your post, ive seen it being mentioned several time but somehow none of the thai i took use it or they dont use it to me, or i simply didnt catch when they say it to me. Also rarely do i get thai using ending na at the end lol. Is it because im not as old, coz i come to understand ending with na is a polite way to say things to elderly?. Anyway, just want to say mai pen rai is somehow similarly used in malay culture as well. We say no as a polite way to not give troubles to host, but host will always insist on doing it anyway. Like if u visit someone, the custome is to serve drinks and snacks or food depending on time of visit, but visitors will always refuse saying its alright, u dont have to, we just ate etc. But the host will serve it anyway and we will eat or drink it anyway lol. Meanwhile, visiting someone house in the states for example, if they asked if we want a drink and we say no its alright, you wont get a drink lol.

I enjoy reading your trip reports as well. Some of the information will definitely helped me on my own next visit. Im really bad at planning my trips ahead of time unless i travel with friends and most of the time, they decided on the dates. Thinking to do quick trips (3 days at a time) but more frequent.

Lol. Shouldve gone to this place too during my trip haha.

Did the boy steals or force the farang to give him the money or the farang willingly gives the money to the boy?

Given our age is very different, maybe not twin haha. Brother or son? Lol

I sometimes think back on the way i spent on boys and never regret it. Its easy for the boy to extra money off me if they want to, i am a bit weak hearted especially when i can afford it. I think i did ok in terms of finance in my country but compared to many farangs, what i have is probably peanuts lol. I made nore money working part time in the states during my study then what i made full time as my first job back home. But everything else here, with exception of few ridiculously hjgh tax items, are very cheap, that i dont have to struggle with money ever since i started working. Granted i am very frugal on spending in about everything else other than boys haha.

Yup, i know that its all simulated haha. It is funny to see them run and squeal thinking its real haha.

I usally take my time but for this specific guy, and given the amount of boys that i like vs the number of customers in the bars, i decided i need to act fast. I told the guy when in the room, that there were so many people in the bar but he said yeah, many people but not many customer, since most of them only come for the show and have fun/drink companion in bars and didnt off. Still glad i didnt hesistate hehe.

The airport bus to jomtien stops at few places before stopping at jomtien bus station. The bus station is walking distance to jomtien complex but for the first two nights of my visit, ill be staying in ambiance, boyztown. So i cross the road and wait for the seongtaw to south pattaya. The bus stopped right in front of boystown soi where ambiance is, so i alight the bus and pay 10 baht to the driver. As i walked in boystown the first time, i already saw masseurs sitting outside scandic as well as body massage, ambiance. Went straight to ambiance reception and went up to my room, at the top most floor, lvl 5, with a terrace facing boystown. I unpacked, put my valuables in the safe and clean up a bit before heading out for dinner. After dinner, i make a stroll down walking street, all the way until the end and walked a bit toward bali hai pier. I stopped at the beach where i saw a group of thai boys playing sepak takraw, a traditional sports that is popular in south east asia, where thailand and malaysia has always been in the final of sea games for many years already. I stay and watch the game for a while, not because i love the sports, cant even play it, but because of the boys haha. Few of them are shirtless but one particular guy is actually in good shape, six pack, natural lean body haha. Hopefully picture below is acceptable here. If not please remove it. Walking street is also interesting place for taking pictures, and the straight have it all over here. So many varieties of girl bars, russian, indian, and of course thais with so many interesting themes like white bar, ice bar. After the walk, getting a bit sweaty, went back to hotel to shower and get ready for boystown visit. I planned to do a stroll first, just to know what bars and their locations. Ive asked advice from members (Vinapu especially) on where ill have better chance finding the kind of boys i like in pattaya. Muscles hunk to put it simply. Some recommended bars for me to see were BBB, Abomb, Toyboy and massage places like Copa, Scandic and Ambiance (body club massage) at first i didnt see where abomb is, but figured out its on a different street along with xboys, kawaii, and dreamboys. I went out of hotel a bit after 9pm, and thought i mustve missed the BBB parade. Guess ill try to be earlier tomorrow. One thing i like about most bars in pattaya is the dont have any issues if we want to have a peak first before going in and buy drinks. So i started to just do exactly that in most bars, went to see kawaii, 4-5 boys all too skinny for me, abomb, 2-3 boys only, too average, xboys, more boys here, maybe 10 or so, but each time they open the door, the boys and mamasan will clap so i didnt stay longer to see lol. I didnt peak into toy boys since their door was open so i can just see from outside. No one that interest me tonight. I also noted the show times for some bars, xboys have 3 show but i didnt go in for their show tonight. Castro also have underwater show but mainly drags and ladyboy. So tonight, i decided to go for BBB show. Its my first boy show in pattaya and i must say that this is definitely the best shows ive seen so far. I walked in before 10 to a 3 quarter full bars, and probably 30-40 boys on stage and with customers. It definitely the closest to dreamboys bangkok in terms of number and quality of boys, and at least during my visits, its better than dreamboys bangkok. The bad news is most boys are fully dressed, like those in jupiter. Thank god that some of the boys are still shirtless, maybe 3-4, and one guy actually have muscular body and good looking face, that can rival most boys in bangkok. Needless to say, even before the show starts at 10.30pm,i already thinking of offing him, before he got snatch by someone else. I called mamasan, and asked if he can sit next to me, and buy him a drink. Sitting close to me, he is even georgous, everything physically is perfect for me. He only wears a shorts thats up to the knee. Asked the usual screening questions and didnt take long before i off him. One big caveat for me, he dont like long time and wont be going with me long time tonight, but for that body and look, i still bite. As i said, the show is one of if not the best shows of all gogobars that ive been. I told the guybi want to watch the show, and he stays with me but says he will go outside during the show and come back when shows ends. He says he dont like to watch the show. Owh well. As it turns out, more and more customer starts to come and soon, all seats were occupied by customers. Its basically a full house by the time the shows starts and i realized my seat isnt ideal for the show, obstructed view. The show starts with few muscular men doing calisthenics stunts, things id pay for a ticket to see. Then they have bbboys shows, shower shows, masturbation show, complete with ejaculating cum to the audience at the front row lol. The bbshow is definitely hot, 2 of the dancer is definitely the cutest dancer, very manly and looks like korean pop star, and of course, they both got my tips. The morbidly obese guy doing a hand stand twist and a split was definitely a great ending. Its one quality show after another, pure art. Since the guy i off didnt seat with me during show, i can pay more attention to the shows. There is also more erotic shows done by some of the boys on stage, one in particular i really like, and during the big cock show, he participate, so i waited until he come to me, and give his penis a handshake with tips lol. I totally enjoy the shows, and once the show is finished, the mamasan announced that there will be another show in boys music bar at 12:30pm. Anyway, i went outside to get my guy and told him we can go to hotel now. He asked if i have the essentials, i said yes and he told me to move first. I told him my room is just next door in ambiance, so we walked through the reception, the guy at the counter seems to know him, and asked if i wanted popper, which i refuse, and off we go to my room. He likes the room, we chat a bit but his english is limited so i went to shower to clean up and so does he. My session went well, he did all i asked him to, even with language barier, he understand most of the usual lingo and sign language. His body is definitely to die for haha. Even if he is a dud, id still be happy with him by my side and letting me touch, carress, squeeze his body. He told me earlier he would go back to bar after the session which i totally understand. I shouldve said he was free to be with other client for drinks etc when i watch the show alone, but i didnt, maybe because i was hoping he would sit with me lol. Anyway, the session went great for a short time. And with that body and look, i might be bias in my assesment but i am left happy lol. He left around 1am or so, and carefully and playfully asked me for extra tips, and since i really like him, but dont want to encourage begging of money without any effort, i told him to kiss me and ill give those extra tips haha. He didnt hesitate at all lol. I also told him the next time i take him, i want long time. Its my first night in pattaya and i landed a gorgeous hunk. To be honest, its one of a guy Vinapu had taken before too, and i only know this after i asked his name when he sits with me. Its my first and last short time of this trip. He invited me to have a drink at boys music but i am tired and spent already, so i told hin i am going to sleep and we say our good bye. I slept through the day and woke up only at 10 or so am the next day, first day i actually skipped breakfast this trip

Lol

Actually, there isn't much chatting being done here lol but yes, i definitely take as compliment. Either he likes me or my pocket lol. Either way it feels nice to have such specimen showing you affection in public

Thanks! I know i am rambling a lot too lol. I probably will do a summary at the end of my trip reports, maybe. This is what i hope to avoid, so when he got off, i am both relief and thought that him being passionate with me might have helped him landing that off especially when KL mentioned the guy that off him has been eyeing on him for a long time haha. Lol i guess so huh, two guys i took on this trip gets another off at the same night and i have something to do with that. My pattaya trips wasnt so bad too, only one sour incident that was not totally unexpected.

I wish i can help you, i myself didnt speak nor read mandarin. But i have few chinese friends as well as reading forums like BW, where they always point to another chinese forums tt1069 for wealth of info. Another thing that is unique in china is the karaoke places that have working boys serving customers there. And yes they have gay massage centers and male masseurs in straight place that will do sex as well. They also have sauna, but its more like traditional bath rather than gay sauna without maze, dark room etc. And in general, cleanliness is an issue over there. There is also a general advice to use apps like blued for hookups rather than going to centers etc.

This will be the last chapter in bangkok. My previous trips have always been bangkok only with some sidetracks to kanchanaburi, ayutthaya, maeklong day trip, and overnight trip to hua hin. My decision to go to pattaya is not because ive grown tired of bangkok or have nowhere else to visit but is highly driven by the price and availability of accomodation in silom during this period due to white party. I have been contemplating a phuket or chiang mai visit too. For chiangmai, ive always wanted to try the sleeper train but upon checking, those trains have been fully booked all through new years. Phuket is also a nice alternatives but having read reports here, ill have better chances in pattaya, where sex tourism is their main attraction. Wouldve been different if my regular guy is around, i wouldve pitch in the idea of going to phuket together with him lol. Alas, he isnt around and have stopped working in bar, so one of my mission is to find someone who can replace him, a guy ive taken 5 times within 2 trips. I still hope i can meet him in future trips. Back to trip reporting. Tonight KL told me he wanted to go to Tawan. Ive told him my experience two days ago, and he said he still want to have a look and if he finds no one attractive, we can move on to dreamboys. I also told him i might want to have a rest day tonight, since ill be travelling to pattaya tomorrow, but will go to bars as well since i dont think i can go to sleep early tonight, given that i woke up at 1:30pm today lol. During the day, KL asked me further about the bangkok massage guy i took, his massage skills, service etc and what he can or cannot do. I told him my experience. KL asked me if i have his contact, i didnt, but i did ask him what his new year plan and he said he will be working until new year. I shouldve gotten his contact just in case i want a repeat but i guess i can meet with him later to get it lol. After dinner, i texted KL to let me know if he wants to go to bar, and he replied yes, tawan first and told me to meet him there. Around 10:40pm i started walking to tawan, and at the entrance, they have this sort of mini eggs where u open and inside is a piece of paper. Mine says tawan and they cheers and asked me to choose of of the stuffed toys lol. I enter and choose a seat, tonight is quite full, a thursday night. I try to see if KL is here yet, but he isnt so i save him a seat. After few mins, KL arrived and shows is just about to begin. Similar shows as before, pull up chin bar contest with winners received monetary rewards from bars, though i dont know if its just a gimmick or they really get to keep the money. SM shows with candle, fuck shows, jerk off contest, big cock show. The two twinks who can actually dance are there as well. I didnt noticed phet or tiger, and the rest of the boys didnt interest me or KL, so even before the shows end, we decided to head to dreamboys. As my hotel is near, i told KL i want to do a quick visit to my hotel to store the stuff toys. Itll be weird for a guy my age to carry a stuffed toys to bar lol. He told me ok we ca meet in dreamboys, he will save me a seat. When i arrived, shows is on going, very similar to yesterday. Although today we arrived a bit earlier and i get to see the guy i off yesterday were doing a dance number, probably the most muscular dancer there is lol. After the show, he noticed me and KL and gave us a wai. Similar with yesterday we made our moves down to boys bangkok bar for the free show as all dreamboys boy move downstairs as well. We sit at similar seat as yesterday, second row from stage. Some variation of the dance shows but the last show with the large penis rising and squirting water all over is still the same. We moved to the back seats before this happens lol. During the boys rotation, my guy keep chatting and smiling at us. And during the show he went down amd sit next to me uninvited, which i dont mind, but i did told him i wont be offing anyone tonight and he understand, and still seat with me. Mamasan asked if he wants a drink and he says no. Well, this is a first for me. Boy who dont push on drink, nor an off, just want to sit next to me. Next thing i know, we both were touching each other, and he planted few kisses as well lol That deserve a tip in my opinion so i gave him 100 baht. He stills stay seated with me through out the show and carry our drinks to back seats during the splash zone fiasco. Before he has to go back to boys rotation on stage, i give him another tips. Definitely someone that ill look for on my next visit, and top candidate to replace my previous guy, who is also from dreamboys. Only caveat is his english isnt as good, acceptable but cant hold long conversation. I guess i am asking too much haha. Not long after he leaves me and go on stage, customer next to us, two asian or maybe chinese guy called him down and off him. KL told me these guys have been eyeing my guy for a while already. I didnt even noticed but i am glad that he gets an off, and sitting with me that long didnt take away his chance for an off. In fact i think it mightve help him landing that off. During the show, KL excused himself, as he says he needed to check his messages. He came back 15min after and told me he made a deal with the guy i took from bangkok massage and will meet him at 1am. This guy move fast haha. And i did a good thing for bangkok massage guy too, getting him another customer. I told KL i want to meet the guy as well. Its my chance to get his contact for future trips. Anyway, after seeing my guy in dreamboy getting an off, we made a move out and go bangkok massage. The mamasan saw KL, and told him that the guy is working, and asked us to wait. So we planted ourselves at maxis, ordered hot tea and chat. Then we saw two girls and a guy, look japanese to me, came out of bangkok massage looking happy lol. And not long after, bangkok massage guy appear and saw us, so he joined us on the table. He saw me and wai, and i said hi. KL then asked about tips etc, and off we go, me back to hotel and KL back to his hotel with the off of the day (night?). I slept through and woke up around 9am, had breakfast and then start packing. Thinking that i might be able to land a massage at prime when it opens at 12, i checked out at 11:45 or so, and left my luggage at counter and made my way to prime. When i arrived, asked the counter again if i can choose, same answer as before. Cannot for two week. Asked for massage and being told they are fully book until 6pm lol. Geez. So i make a quick tour of silom and surawong, looking for any masseur that might interest me from some of the parlour that is opened, not much choices this early, so i made my way back to hotel, pickup my luggage and make my way to suvarbhumi airport to purchase my ticket. Arrived around a bit before 15 min before 2pm, but only ticket available is for 3:10pm, so i purchase that ticket, and had a quick lunch at one of the cafe in third floor. Came back to the ticket counter around 15 min before 3pm and asked if the bus is here yet, he said not yet and asked me to wait. Just 5min or so of waiting, a guy comes and yell out pattaya, and i show him my ticket and he nodded and asked all of us to follow him to the bus. Got to my assigned seat and the bus depart on time, and arrived in pattaya about 1 hour and 45mins after.

I wouldnt have the courage to approach guys like that lol. I guess my gaydar doesnt work as good as michael, especially when i like manly or straight acting guys lol there is one time where a delivery guy comes to my place and i thought damn this guy is cute, he even initiate conversation and told me where he live lol. But my instinct is the guy is just being friendly.

If you can read mandarin, it should be easy to find things. Many massage places have names in mandarin.

He could have gotten a different guy while waiting for your respond?

Exactly, i like those muscles boy, so with apps, its really hard to find one thst isnt fake, even if its not fake, it could be few years old pic, and once they stop working out, their body wont be as goood anymore. Some regulars back home does use apps and craiglists, and ive seen their ads/profile many times but i didnt engage them until someone from a forum told me the pic is real. Also had a bad experience, where the guy use someone else picture, but his looks/body is not bad so i still go ahead. Worse ever decision, very rush, lots of things he dont do and it was done in 20-30min... Didnt want to make a scene so i just pay up and go. Also read few reports of people being forced to pay or robbed, and worst thing is we dont have their real pic, so hard to warn others. These crooks will change pictures or have multiple fake profiles to bait victims. These are all in KL, and not thailand as i dont have time or patience to use apps in thailand lol

Reason why i avoid apps and freelance in craigslist last time is this. I know i am missing a lot by avoiding this, but when im travelling for a short trip, the effort and time it took only to discover its not happening wont sit well with my short time available in thailand. But back home, i rarely use it too. We have a forum that one can post the picture/id and asked if the profile is real and if anyone have meet/use his service. Asking for clearer picture or video call is a good way to weed out fakes but some guy dont do it purely to save their data. One tips is to arrange the meeting in public places, so he will have to make himself recognizeable for you to find him, and easy for you to leave if its not as expected. Still too much effort with unclear result. Going to bar/massage centers is a better choice for me.