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I'm planning a trip there for early May, my first time in the Philippines and planning to stay in Makati. I'm wondering if there are gogo bars of similar concept to maybe Space Hair Salon in Phnom Penh or the gogo bars in Thailand. From what I can find online, there's one bar in Quezon City called The One 690, but not much info on how things go with the guys etc. If anyone has experience to appreciate, would appreciate it 🙏.

Ah alright, got it. Thanks!

Thanks for sharing your experience at TCS @RavenFlock. I wanted to try the place in my last trip but didn't manage to. I'm surprised that the minimum tip is a lot cheaper compared to others (including Arena), especially when the guys are that hot. Can I ask whether they explained the sex role of the guy you picked when you were doing the booking?

I've had a Jupiter model quoting 4000 for ST before with some limitations (no kissing etc.) but others quoted the usual 3000. Like someone mentioned above, it is likely that he is either one of the superstar or he prefers going with women instead and is indirectly saying no to you. I usually get my intel on the boy's preferred client (i.e. if he goes out with women only or both and general limitations with the mamasan I've known for some time). FYI, in my recent trip, even one of the Tawan guys quoted 5000 for ST, but he is a solid tall muscular bodybuilder (with six pack and all) and I was informed that he is actually mainly there to fill in the roster. So, he apparently only goes with clients if they pay a premium price.

Part 2/2 Arena - I visited here once and had the same guy from my previous trip. I noticed that his massage skills have improved from the last session, so I asked him why and was told that he had attended some classes since my last visit. Sure, it is probably not at the level you would expect at a decent massage spa, but good enough for Arena 😁. The afters were decent, as he already knows what I like from my last visit. There were about 10 guys when I visited in the evening on a weekend, mostly mature lean or muscular guys. I did get the VIP room which, honestly, wasn't great. It made me wonder how the normal rooms are 😅 Total cost: THB 900 plus + THB 1000 tips for the boys. KMan - I went here once during a weekday. I texted them on Line about 40 mins before to book "L" but on the way there, I was told that "L" didn't reply to their texts and might not be available. They suggested that I select those who are available when I reached the shop. Once I reached, I was shown a few available options but none of which are my type. I asked about one other guy, "Zack", but was told he would only be available much later. Eventually, I decided to leave without taking up their service. The manager (I think?) did warn me that with "L", he is rather unpredictable/unreliable. On this occasion, he apparently had too much to drink last night and only woke up a few minutes before I reached the massage center 🤣. Freshboy - Like I mentioned before, I offed a guy from Freshboy twice on this trip without actually going to the bar. He was a model I met during my last trip, a friendly straight guy from Vietnam, with a lean body. We exchanged contact numbers the last time I took him out. Thankfully, I was in town before he heads back to Vietnam for Chinese New Year. I had a great time on both occassions with him, passionate lover during sex and friendly chats after. Total costs: THB 500 (off fee to the bar, paid to him as he didn't go to the bar and visited me directly at night) + THB 3000 (tips) Apps - I received several requests on Grindr/Blued/Scruff for both free and paid sex. For paid services, the offers ranged from THB 1000 (next door type of guys) to THB 3000 (the more muscular/lean type). I didn't take up any of the paid services though. That's all on my short adventure on this trip (aside from the non-sex scene activities).

That's a fair point.I'm sure different members here would have dealt with similar situations in a way that fits their own rationale and principles. For me, like I mentioned before, I would deal with situations like this on a case-by-case basis. Ultimately, my priority is to enjoy my vacation in the way I see best 😊.

Haha I can understand this. To me, the risks of offing straight guys are well known. So, while I was pissed, I didn't really think much of it afterwards because you're bound to encounter 1 or 2 bad experiences but also get really good encounters with the other. For comparison, 2 of my good sessions in this trip were with a guy who - get this - is from Vietnam, a Freshboy model, and also straight 🤣🤣🤣. So yeah, win some and lose some. Not worth spoiling my vacation over just 1 or 2 bad encounters.

What @Travelingguy said is partly the reason. It saves me from the hassle of possibly going back and forth for a sum that I don't consider worth wasting time and energy on. The other part is that, while the service was not fully delivered, I did get to enjoy his body so yeah. There have been instances in the past (once in Thailand and the other elsewhere) where I just paid a nominal sum and got the guy out because the experience was bad all the way.

Hey guys, Just wanted to share my experience on a recent trip with the bars and massage places: Part 1/2 Moonlight - visited purely because of nostalgia. The bar is pretty much dead on a Friday night. There were only 3 customers including me, with probably less than 10 guys on rotation, mostly the "boy next-door" type. Didn't stay for the show but had a good chat with the other 2 customers before leaving. Total cost: THB 500 Dreamboys - I went here twice, once during a weekend and the 2nd time on a weekday. Out of all the bars I went to, they probably have the most guys on rotation, with a wide range of variety on types. On my 1st visit here, it seemed like there were more customers compared to the other bars I visited over the weekend but I didn't off anyone. Had one of the muscle guys sit with me for a drink and chat, but he was so stiff that I decided to end my visit there earlier. Paid my tab for the drinks and tipped the guy for his time. Total cost: THB 1300 (with the tips to boy+mamasan) On the 2nd visit to the bar, I offed a cute lean guy from Vietnam I recognized from Freshboys, a pure top straight guy. In summary, it was a bad experience for me and probably would never take him out again. While at the bar, I told him that I was not in the mood for a fuck and just wanted some vanilla, side fun (Google translated for him the exact things I was looking to do since he speaks limited English) and he confirmed that he was ok to do them all. He was also quite touchy at the bar, which I thought was a good indication. But once at the room, he went and showered on his own, got on the bed and asked if he could watch straight porn on his phone. I don't mind so much if the boy has to do that when he is close to finishing (I understand he is straight) but this is way too early at the start (and this is also the first time in all my offs that a guy asked to watch porn on his phone 😅). What made it worse was that most of the things he said he could do (like kissing etc), he ended up not being able to do at all or did some half-hearted attempt with heavy reluctance. I tried pulling him away from his phone a couple of times to actually have some physical activity other than me giving him a blowjob or him jerking off, but finally gave up (and lost my mood to continue with the session). He eventually came after masturbating to porn and asked if I wanted to finish too 🤣. I said no and just went to clean up. He awkwardly joined me in the shower but we ended up cleaning ourselves separately. I think he sensed I wasn't happy but I still tipped him what I originally planned to. All in all, I basically paid to give him a blowjob and watched him masturbate 🤣. Total costs - THB 1650 (my drink + boy's drink + off fee+ tips for mamasan and another cute guy) + THB 3000 tips (sure, I could've paid lower but I was too pissed and tired to really care). Than Tawan - I went here twice, once during the weekend and the 2nd time during a weekday. Hired 2 guys here. They have a bigger selection of guys now as the Atlas boys are now here too. The first guy I offed was a slim fit Myanmar guy (happened to be his last day too). He is not the type that I would typically go for but he was cute, in a rugged, twinkish, bad boy next-door kinda way 🤣. He was a pleasant guy though, friendly and did everything I wanted. I had a good time with him. Total costs - THB 1800 (2 drinks + off-fee, and yes the off fee that weekend was THB 800) + THB 3000 tips (yes, the off-fee was THB 800 on a weekend) The 2nd was my regular muscle guy, so all good with him as he already knows what I like. Total costs - THB 1500 (2 drinks + off fee) + THB 3000 tips Just an observation on Than Tawan - I was surprised at how pushy the mamasans (and some of the boys) of Than Tawan have become, unlike how Tawan (or even the One) used to be. Almost all of the mamasans (and even the doorman) came asking for tips/drinks for themselves (without really doing much). Some mamasans pushed customers to tip the boys performing (even when the customers declined the boys offer to touch their dicks/ass). I saw a few unfortunate tourists who were surprised by having to tip when they received unsolicited lap dances that they were visibly not comfortable with 🤣.

Haha of course. Though I suspect I'll probably be BKK first before HCM 😅

I saw the article below on the update @spoon mentioned: https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.scmp.com/week-asia/people/article/3334755/raids-men-only-spas-malaysia-raise-concerns-about-targeting-lgbtq-groups "Kuala Lumpur police chief Fadil Marsus told reporters earlier on Sunday that investigators could not proceed with charges because “no one declared themselves a victim”, which he said limited what legal provisions police could rely on. ... 'So, the case is gone,' he said. 'As for the [premises owner], there is indeed no offence at all for now.'"

Thanks @Moses & @London Bear ! Will make a visit there the next time I'm in town. 😊

https://www.straitstimes.com/asia/se-asia/caught-with-their-pants-down-prosecutor-surgeon-among-201-detained-at-men-only-vice-raid-in-kl "Caught with their pants down: Prosecutor, surgeon among 201 detained at ‘men only’ vice raid in KL Updated Nov 29, 2025, 04:00 PM KUALA LUMPUR - A total of 201 men were detained during a joint enforcement operation at a wellness centre along Jalan Raja Laut in Kuala Lumpur after authorities suspected the premises was being used for illicit activities. ... DCP Azani said police are investigating the case under Section 387B of the Penal Code for offences related to unnatural sexual acts. Jawi also detained 80 Muslim men under Section 29 of the Syariah Criminal Offences (Federal Territories) Act for indecent behaviour in a public place." When I am in Malaysia or Indonesia, I tend to avoid saunas and any gay sex parties out of fear for situations like this. But in both countries, plenty of paid and free sex available to be had in the privacy of your hotel room.

Hey all, Just wanted to ask if anyone has any info on Musclebar Saigon? From their insta, it seems to be a gay bar but not sure if the muscle guys are available for hire (like the gogo bars in Thailand) or just hosts (like Spacehair in Phnom Penh) Appreciate any info or experience you can share. 😁

Wow, the mental gymnastics here...😱

Quarter Saladaeng is sort of my go-to place to stay when I'm in BKK. The have a cafe (Lapin) in the hotel and across the road there is the Commons, a space with different cafes and restaurants you can chill at. Along the same road, there are plenty of cafes and restaurants, pharmacy, 7eleven etc. Yes, they also have the shuttle to either BTS Saladaeng or MRT Silom.

I can confirm that it is not necessarily true in Jupiter. In my last trip, two of the boys I invited over for drinks (and eventually offed one of them) were both not wearing any number tags but were available for offs. Best to check with mamasan if you're interested in offing any particular boy, even those without tags.

All 4 of them have straight guys among the model for hire, but for Jupiter at least (can't comment on the others), some of the straight models either only go out with girls or can go out with guys but have some limitations on what they want to do in bed with you. You can check with the mamasan to confirm.

That's awesome. Hope you'll have a good trip there and looking forward to your report! The weather should be a lot better as well by then, I think.

Hey guys, This is report on my trip about 2 weeks ago in BKK. Had a work engagement there and decided to extend the stay for a short weekend vacation. Thought I'd share some info on the bars I've visited. (Sorry for any typos or grammar issues 🙏. Writing this out on my phone) Jupiter Finally, after talking about it in a few reports, I finally took a guy out from Jupiter! Lol I came in initially just to watch the show. It was a Friday night but the bar was no where nearly as crowded as before. Still a lot of customers relative to the other bars I went to, but plenty of empty seats. I had one of the mamasan helped me with the boys. Basically, from what I understand (and confirmed by the boy I eventually offed), about 5-6 guys only exclusively go with women. From the rest, a lot of the str8 guys are ok to go with male clients but vary in terms of what they are willing to do (usually they won't kiss other guys). The ones that are open to all are the gay models. The first guy I invited over for a drink was a fit, next door kinda guy that I had my eye on in my last trip. He spoke limited English so we chatted with a translator app. He quoted THB 4000, was ok with to fuck guys but he doesn't kiss. I thanked him and gave a small tip for his time. I then selected another guy from the rotation. He was lean fit, from Cambodia and smiled a lot. He was OK to do a lot of things (as a top, of course) and was pleasant to talk to (even gave a brief rundown on some of the other guys I was interested in). I offed him for a ST. We went to get something to eat before going back to the hotel. The only turn-off with this guy was that he brought up how he was financially struggling and had family issues several times from when we left the bar. I gave polite responses but didn't probe further. Back at the hotel, he did everything he said he would and we had a good time. All in all, I paid THB 1900 (2 drinks + entry fee + off fee) to the bar and THB 3000 to the model after having some fun. Atlas I went here on a Sunday. This was the biggest shock for me. The bar was deserted. Only about 8 guys on rotation, with probably only 1 qualifying as a muscle/bodybuilder. The others were either slim, overweight or just average. Only one other client beside me there. I didn't see any of the other Tawan guys that were there on my last trip. I spoke briefly with the owner but he seemed tired/distracted. After one drink, I just left. Tahn Tawan This was formerly Tawan/the One. Apparently, a new owner bought over a couple of months back (I'm sure someone mentioned this in another report). The bar was actually crowded, and there were more muscle guys/bodybuilders here than at Atlas. Some of the faces that were at Atlas before came back to Tawan. They had around maybe 15 guys, of which half at least are muscle/bodybuilding type of guys, while the other half is a mix of lean/fit next door guys or average twinks. (The guy who previously played the doorman role is now in rotation) I saw the guy I've offed several times before and decided to off him for that night. Huge bodybuilder guy, solid muscles though not shredded for competitions yet. He told me that he and several others left Atlas because apparently Atlas is trying to cater more to clients who prefer twinks (though from the my earlier visit, hardly seems that way). The new owner of Tawan apparently is a nice guy and flexible with the models. I had a good muscle worship session with him, followed by a good, passionate sex. Would definitely come back for him in my next trip. Cost-wise, boy's drink + entry + off fee was THB 1500, and tipped the guy THB 3000. Non-bar Boys Aside from the bars, I also had a long time session with a previous off who no longer works in bars (at the moment, at least). The sex was good when we met, but after that it was a little disappointing. I wanted to have a cuddle buddy for the night and maybe a morning sex too (hinted that to him before bed). I ended up with neither 🤣. He doesn't cuddle much, and was rather fixated with his phone. We had breakfast in the morning, tipped him THB 3500 and decided to go on with my day. He was a really sweet guy but whether it was because of miscommunication or he was just not into it, it seemed like a having a long time with him was a mistake on my part. Anyway, lesson learned 😅. Weather It was raining everyday when I was there but thankfully, only short rain spells which cleared after sometime. And the night was mostly clear while I was there, so no interruptions on my night activities.

Yeah, they approached to ask if I'd wanna have fun and I asked them how much.

In my recent trip, the asking price I get is around 450 to 500 for the lean/muscular type in garoto. In the sauna, the most I've been asked is 300.

I am envious!! Haha, hoping to try visiting Rio during carnival or maybe NYE next year.

Hey all. I've been travelling around a fair bit in the past few weeks, so thought I'd share brief reports in the next few weeks on my experience at some of the places I travelled to. I was in Sao Paulo and Rio recently (you may have seen me posting a couple of weeks/months earlier asking questions on Rio). As a disclaimer, I was actually more occupied with non-sexual touristic activities (which I will not bore you with), so there's probably not as much I can report on regarding the sex scene. Sao Paulo I was here just for 3 nights (weekend) and stayed at Intercity The Universe Paulista - close enough to walk to Av Paulista but far enough to not be troubled by noise etc. I had no problem bringing in a guy (without registration) much like most hotels Thailand. Garoto com local - I only hired one guy from the site who came to my room. A little on the higher end when it comes to fees - BRL 500 but I think it was worth it. The guy is a professional model, tall, muscular, masculine and gay. Told him what I was into and he was able to do all of it. I had a good time with him. The models on the site that I contacted mostly quoted prices between BRL450 and 500 (with one quoting BRL 800 and some didn't even reply). Lagoa - this is the only sauna I went to during my short time at SP. I went there on all 3 nights (around 8pm) and found there to be a good number of guys on each night, a good mix of different types of guys. I had one guy here, muscular top straight guy but can kiss, do foreplay on top of the usual sex. He quoted a higher rate when he approached me but agreed to BRL 200. There were a few other guys who approached me with the same rate, but I either didn't have the time on this short trip or the guy was just not my type. One of the guys asked me to join him for drinks at a nearby bar after Lagoa lol. All in all, I found most of the guys here to be quite relaxed and friendly. (Info for 1st timers - you collect your towel and locker key at the counter. The key comes with a locker number which will be used to purchase drinks and rooms. You'll get two large towels and a pair of slippers. Tips to the guys you take are paid in cash separately to the guys and the other payment for drinks, rooms etc. will be paid at the counter either by cash or credit card). Apps - there are a lot of guys for hire on Grindr. I've had a few chats but didn't really hire anyone there. Rio I was in Rio for 4 nights during the weekdays and stayed at Grand Mercure Copacabana. Prior to the trip, I contacted the hotel to enquire on their visitor policy and they confirmed that I can have visitors at the room but the visitors will have to register at the reception. Unfortunately, I was not able to test this out as the guys I had were all at the saunas. Clube 117 - I went here on Tuesday and Thursday around 8pm. While it is obviously more crowded on Tuesday with guests (free rooms), I found that on both nights they have a good selection of guys of different types. I had two guys here on separate occasions, each for BRL 200. Both were muscular tops with good physique, handsome looks. The 1st guy was unfortunately not a good experience for me. We had used the translator to communicate what I was looking for and he was ok with it but during the session, he said he doesn't do certain things. When I showed him our earlier translated conversation, he insisted it wasn't what I understood it to mean. Not sure if it was a genuine miscom or just him being sneaky but I cut the session short and just paid him his fees to save myself the headache. Fortunately, the 2nd guy was better. He was upfront about what he can and can't do, and I had a good time with him. He was more passionate during the session and was overall a pleasant guy (during and after the session). At both session, the room was not really cleaned properly that the models had to call for one of the guys working there to change the sheets etc. (Info for 1st timers - you collect your locker key at the counter. The key comes with a locker number which will be used to purchase drinks and rooms. Once you go downstairs, the worker at the locker will hand you two towels and a pair of slippers. Tips to the guys you take are paid in cash separately to the guys and the other payment for drinks, rooms etc. will be paid at the counter either by cash or credit card.) Point 202 - I was here Monday and Wednesday nights around 8pm. Some similar faces seen at 117 but generally I find the selection of guys to be more limited. I didn't take anyone from my visits here though so I can't report on the rooms etc.(Info for 1st timers - you collect your locker key at the counter. The key comes with a locker number which will be used to purchase drinks and rooms. Once you go in and find the locker section, the worker at the locker will hand you two towels and a pair of slippers. Tips to the guys you take are paid in cash separately to the guys and the other payment for drinks, rooms etc. will be paid at the counter either by cash or credit card.) At both saunas, they had good drag shows during the time I was there. I like the overall floor setup of 117 (sauna/steam room and shower at lower floor, bar and porn room/lounge at separate sections of the ground floor, and other rooms for fun at the top floor) compared to Point 202 (you'd need to cross the bar to go the top floor where the sauna is). Apps - there were a lot more guys for hire and normal guys just looking for sex that contacted me. Compared to SP, I find the guys on the apps in Rio to be easier to approach. That's pretty much it on my report for this trip. Hope it'll be helpful to those making their way there. I'm already making plans for my next trip to Brazil 😬

Many thanks for the input guys. Yeah, it didn't seem quite right but as I'm not familiar with the practices there, thought it would be best to check with the experts here first. Thanks for this @speedoo1. I take it the model/muscle types would probably fall under this category?