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20+ hours is a tough ask, but many do it when they fly to Thailand from the US. From Europe, you can fly to Medellín in 13 or 14 hours. Direct flights are even shorter, but only available from a few destinations... Madrid comes to mind. I have never been to Brazil, but would love to go. However, I am not interested in really dark or macho boys. I like the light skinned Twinkies and for that, Colombia is perfect. Another thing I like about Medellín is how friendly people are in the hospitality industry.

I have metioned this before. You can use an free program called "Bluestacks" on your PC. With this, you can use Grindr and set your location to anywhere in the world. Boys will be able to see your profile wherever you are. https://www.bluestacks.com/apps/social/grindr-app-on-pc.html

I guess it was too good to be true. In hindsight, I wish I would have booked Air Europa. They canceled the last two legs of the booking. This means I can only fly a day later. It might because they decided to fly later at night. The new flight would be the 30th BOG - FRA, but at 11:30 PM. This would mean that my connecting flight to AMS changes and there will be a layover of 4 hours. My first thought was, almost a 5-hour layover in Bogotá and 4 in Amsterdam, crazy. But then I realized that it is worse than that. The first leg of the flight has not changed. Which means that the layover in Bogotá is 29 hours. I asked them to change it, but they kept saying that the flights are overbooked. 🤔 Finally, Customer Service told me that there are no seats in my class on later flights or the next day. Mind you, this is a flight with Avianca. They have 10 flights a day, MED - BOG. It is not that I am asking for an extra day. The least they could do is fix it that I don't have this absurd layover. I have written to Lufthansa to complain, but I think I will just cancel the flight. There are still tickets available for €1500 with Air Europa, but it is not going to be optimal. If I didn't have extreme problems with the altitude in Bogotá, I might have just done the one day to check out the scene. But I've been to Bogotá once and left after three days because I couldn't stand it. I don't understand why someone would pay €2000+ for this Lufthansa flight. Their business product on the route seems very outdated. No privacy and if you have a window seat you need to step over your neighbor. Same goes for Air Europa.

As I can recall, tickets to Thailand where always cheaper than tickets to Latin America. Last year, I bought a business class ticket Amsterdam to Medellín for around 1500 Euro. Last week, I bought a similar ticket with Lufthansa for 1536 Euro. They are for the same periods DEC/JAN. When I look in the other direction, I find that tickets to Thailand could set you back 900 Euro easily, and that is for plain economy. Business class tickets are at least 2500 Euro from Amsterdam. I cannot explain this. There are far more options to fly to Thailand, than there are to Colombia. Shouldn't competition make tickets cheaper?

Shocking. Did you write down that experience somewhere?

Me too, but I might have a different reason. 🤤

Did you go to Nice Boys?

I saw that profile too. I think that he is the worst kind of prostitute. Pretentious from the getgo but he seems to get away with lying to himself.

Not wanting to hijjack the thread: I lived in Vietnam for about ten years and language was not really problem. 😏

I've been there...atleast in that near vicinity becuase it has been few years. But if it is the same then you can compre it with JJ karaoke in soi day and night area. https://www.google.com/maps/uv?pb=!1s0x31029612aed4f457%3A0x543f4269370d7f4b!3m1!7e115!4shttps%3A%2F%2Flh5.googleusercontent.com%2Fp%2FAF1QipPMzzUE_Fd-jPTzYbOhkwE6SyuisJvAHBlPIY5s%3Dw426-h320-k-no!5sjj karaoke pattaya - Google Zoeken!15sCgIgAQ&imagekey=!1e10!2sAF1QipPMzzUE_Fd-jPTzYbOhkwE6SyuisJvAHBlPIY5s&hl=nl&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwiBs5iGxoz4AhXTNuwKHRFLDHQQoip6BAhCEAM

I find that Booking.com and agoda are very helpfull in such cases. I just booked on agoda and asked the property to confirm that i would have a balcony via the booking system.

accoording to the Mamasan M, is Cupidol now an open bar.

I am not asking about prices in bars. More interested in the topic of the video. The part that starts at 2:30 and for that i like to compare with gogo bars in Bangkok.

I always find it interesting to read about prices on this board. I like the twinkies and usually get quoted ST between 1000 and 1500 baht. Depending on the location, it could even be less or for longer. The gay scene is very different from the girly bar scene but some tricks are universal I suppose. This video is about the girly bars but i wonder if this is going on in the male gogo bars, especially in Bangkok. What I wish would exist is a Gentelmen's club like those in Pattaya but with boys. The interesting part starts at 2:30 minutes.

Where are these prices coming from? I remember Jupiter used to have crazy prices 15 years ago, and i haven't been since. but it seems that they are all getting a bit nutty. Models...are they the coyotes from days past? The term "model" says it all. Someone to look at. I'd prefer a good prostitute. What happened to "Up to you" ???

I am coming boys! 😘 Little over three weeks and I will pay them a daily visit.

Mine was that he had to go to school early in the morning. On a saturday nonetheless. Obviously I thought he was full of it and told him that he could leave Immidiately. Somehow I did get to know him much better in the following weeks and the school story was 100% true. This was in Medellin but it did teach me a universal lesson.

Now I get where it is. Wow, that used to be crazy area. I have not been there in 10 years. Come to think of it, it would be great to get that part of Surawong going again. Drinks used to be much cheaper at that end. I remember they used to have afterparties there when Taksin decide have bars close at 12AM. But i remember that everything was concentrate with 100 meters from (Mango) street entrance.

Indeed. Medellin is full with boys from Venezuela. Many of them are still Illigaal and could not get a normal job. Those who work "normal" jobs are often underpaid and this affects the colombians who are looking for work too. Don't forget that many of the sex studios are in Medellin. Not saying that the webcamers are all prostitutes, but many are. Enjoy your trip!

Maybe this will make you even more convident. I logged on Grindr and Hornet in Bangkok and pattaya yesterday and got a few conections on Hornet and few dozen on grindr in 24 hours. In Medellin I had around 4 to 5 hundred in 24 hours. Shocking!

Me too! It was more or less instantly. Not different than in Novembar last year.

I've been to Medellin in December and in January. That place was saturated with boys.

I've spoken to 4 boys and one mamasan these last days that have just returned to repectivily Bangkok and Pattaya. Historically it is not the best time of the year for tourism in Thailand, but I wonder if we can see an influx of boys the coming weeks. Most have been away for 2 years now. anyone noticing some positive movement in that direction?

Funny you bring this up. My friend is joining me tomorrow from Medellin. We are going to travel through Mexico a few weeks together. He also suggested me to book an apartment in Laureles when I come back to Medellin.

Here, you don't notice anything more than we are (mostly) already used to. People are wearing masks but it is pretty loose. I got a booster vaccine two weeks ago and been tested twice the last 6 days. My holiday continues in Mexico and we are thinking about Cuba. No idea what was wrong with me but I feel great now. I'm (we) are not getting any younger and will not be able to keep taking holidays like this.