zoomomancs

You were generous. In these countries where the minimum wage is $12 a day, or whatever, I have this conflict all the time about whether to help or is it a story they are telling me. We do what we can.

In Goodboys and Freshboys I ask to change 1000bt notes into 100bt all the time so I can tip. I have been with so many of the lads it soon goes.

No, no, no, 100 bt for mamasan at Freshboys is perfectly adequate and keeps you in her good books. You realise that Mama gets 100bt from every off fee and 100bt often from men who are off'd? Good boys is open until 2am so you might get there in time.

I didn't get to try Togayther Hostel though reading ' We are targeting the young energetic gay-male guests' I didn't feel, at the age of 73, I was their target market. As ever, I did get to Freshboys nearly every night and, amongst others, took off #5 and #16, both from Vietnam, and #19 from Shan State. From Goodboys I took off Vietnamese men #32 and #93 to play pool and #36, from Myanmar, to take to bed again. From Dreamboys I took off a friend from before Covid, #14, a very handsome man from Vietnam, to drink beer. I recommend all of them, though I advise talking to them first about what you want to do. My trip was meant to be more in Vietnam but the rain in Hanoi from typhoons drove me earlier than I had planned to Bangkok. I also spent 5 nights in Dong Hoi in Vietnam, and that was ok, though unexciting from a gay point of view.

Has anyone been in the new Telephone to report on it? I was in the area 2 weeks ago but didn't bother.

She may also have liked the services of the very handsome young men who did massage at BBB Inn. I will never forget the Vietnamese lads who worked there in 2014 before the coup.

I am told that, if they don't work at Freshboys for several days (eg sick, away in home country), they have to re register at the bar, get a new number, and turn up at 8pm for work for a while. Arriving at 8pm and staying until bar closing at 1am means they get a modest payment (150bt or 200bt - not sure) but is tedious for them as few customers in the 8 -10pm period. I think experienced staff can arrive at 9.59pm at the latest.

My source, who works there, says that #25 is not new at Fresh Boys and has worked there a while. But I agree he is very handsome and popular. And he has a very handsome and cute relative working at Dreamboys number #14.

Exterior of Freshboys recently, sent by one of the lads

I asked two men who have worked at Freshboys recently. One said they get 200-300; the other said they get 200-500bt for helping customer drink spirits. Thank you to Jason for the insider info. I didn't know Mamasan invites men to help.

Thank you for great updates. I was recently in Freshboys every night as my favourite. Currently only packed on Friday/Saturday nights, I think. I am curious too how much the whiskey bottle customers tip to drink with the men for ages. I will ask. I think anything less than a regular tip of 500bt upwards would be mean, as the men are giving up a chance of being taken out for that period.

I'm not there but M Bar's Facebook page posted about a party on October 10th and their Facebook looks lively. I read a week ago or so they were closing for renovation for a couple of days.

I'm in Bangkok now and, having read the reviews of Togayther Hostel on Wall St Soi, I'm tempted to try it, as long as I also have a place to sleep nearby. I recommend reading the reviews. $7 is the cheapest price I've seen, though one reviewer mentions a 1000 bt deposit. If I dare go there at my age I will report back.

If the airlines won't co-operate they could make it an add on to the tdac but that would take more than 4 months. Tourists don't want another qr code or a queue to pay at the airports.

I hope so. I think the lads will be pleased also.

I have off'd so many men from Freshboys that I only remember the best ones.

I don't recall his name or number but he wasn't Vietnamese - for a change.

I just walked in with a man from Freshboys

I've off'd men for several days to take them on a trip and paid them 4,000bt a day and paid all expenses. The bar gets the off fee - often around 500bt a day. That's for hanging out all the time. Personally I wouldn't try to negotiate less than that for 24 hours of their company. Some men have another job (eg daytime massage) so we could negotiate about that if they want to do the other job. I've always enjoyed it but, being old, I find young men sleep a lot.

Excellent. Always a fun place when I've been. And reasonable prices.

Or is the land border still closed except for Cambodians returning to Cambodia? Do you know of Cambodian people being able to enter Thailand by land in recent weeks?

Is it the case that if Cambodian people arrive by air in Thailand they get 60 days visa exempt but only 7 days if they arrive by land?

I don't know if it's still the case but a Freshboys waiter told me a while ago that the money we leave in the folder is divided amongst the waiters at the end of each night and is often a useful sum on a decent night. Obviously money we put on top of the folder goes to the individual, as everywhere in Thailand. I often ask the Mamasan to change a 1000 note to hundreds to give the men I like.

Amusing part where they film in Soi Cowboy and get hassled by the police

Having been too generous in my early years of visiting I should have listened to the bar boy in Ao Nang who said: 'If we have a good harvest of farang in the high season we eat in the low season'.