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@Deszz24 My reading of your posts tells me that your primary objective is to visit a Gogo bar, maybe see a performance and take a lad off. Because you just wrote "bar" in your posts, and even mentioned the thought of going as early as 5pm, you are getting replies that are unrelated to gogo bars. Regulars here on this forum can deduce what kind of bar is being referred to in the replies (e.g. from references to Soi 4, beer bar, etc), but I don't know if you can. Assuming that my reading of your primary intention is correct, there really is just one way to go about it, time-wise and action-wise. Gogo bars open a little after 9pm. There are hardly any customers until about 9:30 or 9:45pm. The shows usually start around 10:30 and finish around 11:15 or 11:30pm. Customer numbers peak during the show and melt away quite quickly after 11:30pm. As a newbie, it may be best to time yourself to the busy period between 10 and 11:30. Otherwise, half the boys and all four mamasans will be targetting you. As Vinapu said, "it's not such great idea to come early as you may be accosted more often for lack of other victims while at show time bar is usually full and mamasans are busy dispensing drinks etc. " Don't try to control or expect to control what the boy will or will not do in the room. Go with the flow, and understand that like everybody, they have their limits. Or they may say yes to something but do not deliver. It is a gamble. Even experienced members in this forum have disappointments. We should pay what we agreed even if we're disappointed and not try to insist on a discount. It's the risk we take. What we do instead is to pay more than agreed if we are happy with the service. And something not mentioned so far: Bring plenty of small change when visitng gogo bars. Best would be to pay the bar tab with the exact amount and not with large bills.

I have asked the same question before! I asked the boys and the receptionist. No one knew the answer, but instead I got looks that sort of asked me in return: "Why are you even asking such a question? What does it matter to you what colour we (are told to) wear?" Lest things escalate with offence taken over this pedantic, busybody tourist, it was wiser to just leave it at that and get to the business of choosing a boy whose chief task in the room would be to discard the orange shirt (and more) post-haste.

He's back at Moonlight? The last time I saw him he was at New Twilight - though that is no more and I shouldn't be surprised if he's back at ML. Nonetheless, it will strike me as very forgiving of management to take someone back after he defected to the competition.

I have had similar thoughts though 'terrified' might not be the word I would use. I once chatted with and liked a guy in Tawan, but I remember, quite vividly, hesitating over the off when he told me he had been bulking up in the weeks before, but it was hard work etc etc, and he "only" weighed 98 kilos. And then I pictured a scene of 98 kilos on top of me and I couldn't breathe. But my (admittedly not too numerous) experiences with Tawan boys have been good. They're easy going and even a bit docile in the room. I made 98 kilos promise not to lie atop me. He kept his promise. Macaroni is still alive, and here to tell.

This is new. I assume (from your first post) that you were referring to Jomtien Complex. What you described above sounds like a gogo bar. Was there one in the Complex before when you visited? Has the ban on gogo bars been lifted?

Yes. Rome club I remember, Roxy I only have a vague memory. But it's the same building as where Jupiter is now.

Christianpfc would be outraged at even a fifth of that, I think. 🤣🤣🤣 But seriously, at 5000, I'd get more value in Japan.

Ya, what did I miss? It's sometimes fun to watch catfights, but I try to tell myself that it's never any fun for moderators. So, let me put in a word of appreciation for the hard and stressful work they do. Thank you for keeping this a valuable forum.

Pious abstinence only required of liquid ingestion, not required of ejaculation?

The Nation report has these words: "if they cancel trips within Thailand. I think it means local tour excursions, e.g to floating market, organised by Thai-licensed inbound operators. I somehow doubt if this policy applies to international airlines flying into or out of Thailand. Your ticket should state which jurisdiction's laws apply to the contract.

Shamelessmacktwo.travel.blog But nothing new there since Saigon.

I dont remember that modern building in the first photo at all. Was that where the Prince used to be?

To be fair to Old Daddy, it should be Sutthisan Winitchai, not Sutthian Winitchai.

This is confusing on two levels. I'm probably out of date, but I've always thought that BTS refers to the the original "skytrain", whereas "MRT" refers to the subway system. But here I see BTS Group Holdings, MRTA and the Yellow Line (which I believe is an MRT line) all in the same press release. Does that mean that BTS has taken over the MRT? If so, why don't they have a seamless ticketing system? On a more minor note, if the Yellow line is part of the MRT system (as I think it is) why the need for cabinet approval to collect fares? And if people can hop from one colour line to another, how exactly will the "free" rides work?

My thoughts exactly. But where else would Cambodia get that kind of money from? Quite likely, someone in the Belt and Road department convinced the Cambodian government that if they built a massive airport, direct flights from USA, Europe and Russia would magically appear. Did anyone mention "supply and demand"?

There's been a Don Don Donki at MBK - the shopping mall near National Stadium BTS station - for some years now. To be frank, I never saw any item of interest on my visits there. If anything, it was frustrating to walk through its crammed aisles, but unfortunately, traversing the store was the quickest way to get from the BTS into the mall.

It's very common for business owners to use the euphemism "renovation" to mean closure, especially if they remain ever so slightly hopeful that a white knight might come riding to the rescue and buy them out.

Strange... I thought it had opened in December. @jason1975 said on December 9 that he'd make a visit soon. Maybe he found it tightly shut. If it really hasn't yet opened despite an interval of five months, it hardly augurs well. Rebranding a bar (not that I think it's such a positive name either) and then not opening speaks of management or financial troubles.

Just bumping up this topic which has lain dormant for months. Out of idle curiosity, does anyone have any new information about Queen Club, (formerly known as New Twilight)? When I saw that the facebook profile (https://www.facebook.com/newtwilightmanclub/) hadn't had any updates since November last year, I thought maybe it's gone defunct, but then I found a new profile (https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100090737895395) - but not much better. Hardly any content and nothing since March 9.

Some of us have jobs, alas.

I recall we had a discussion about this as Thailand was emerging from COVID and the bars began to reopen. For a while, dream boys, hotmale etc had boys in jeans too. It was suggested in the discussion - sorry can't remember who said it - that the BIB had different rates for underwear and jeans. I can thus understand if a bar, newly reopened, with uncertain cashflow, would choose to pay the lower rate (boys in jeans) until business improves enough to afford the higher rate (in underwear). But here I am just recollecting what ii think I had read about a year ago. I don't vouch for the accuracy of such a theory. Perhaps more recent visitors can confirm: are the lads in dream boy, hotmale, fresh boys etc in jeans or underwear now?

Or the reverse. I've come across at least one boy who was "T&B" but in the room obviously can't do B, says it hurts too much and so on.

@spoon Whilst Riobard's post indicates he is familar with Tawan - and the body type found there - I would be careful not to leave him with the impression that Arena, VCK, Jey Spa or Sabaidee have similar types. The odd guy at these places might come close to the bodybuilder or semi-body-builder look of Tawan, but generally speaking Tawan is in a class of its own. Most (on some days all) of the guys at those four places cannot hold a candle to Tawan's. If you want an idea of what's more typical at these four places, look at the body type displayed on Jupiter bar's Facebook page. I'm referring to the boys doing the catwalk in videos, not the boys selected for Jupiter's static ads, some of whom could be outside models hired for photoshoots. While I haven't done as many rounds of the Saphan Khwai places as some experts here, I believe Saphan Khwai is more a twink paradise.

Starting with this newly uploaded post Saigon in the heat of April, there will be a series of reviews of five massage places in Saigon (Ho Chi MInh City) on my blog. It may take a few days for each of the rest of the posts to come up because I am still putting finishing touches onto them, in between catching up on work. It was a rather last-minute escapade. I found myself with a relatively free week and decided I would use it "productively". Since it had been at least 10 years since my last visit to Saigon, it was time to re-acquaint myself with this city.

I had thought of that actually, but it would have spoilt my joke. So I decided, mea culpa, to be a snob for the sake of a joke. 😛