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I must have missed that post. But if it said that Jam specialises in darker complexioned guys, did it occur to you that boys can be made to look darker because of camera settings, studio lighting and editing? 🤪

I've also seen this phenomenon in several cities in China. I remember particularly well a barber shop with a massive basement (spanning the basements of several adjacent shops) which was a complete bathhouse + massage services.

You know you're not likely to get brown skin in Japan, right?

Another business with a physical shop and with your type of boys is Danshi Gakuen (DG), and they have in-house rooms. However, their rooms do not have ensuite bathrooms, and they have a complicated system where the boy has to use the intercom to ask permission from what I call air-traffic control before he walks you down the corridor to the common bathroom. This is to ensure that no customer ever bumps into another customer. For this reason, which I consider an inconvenience, I don't advise DG. Also, DG is a bit further from metro stations (though still walkable) than Tokyo Kids. If I remember correctly, they also advise Shinjuku San-chome station -- the one with more than ten exits.

Oops, I clicked SEND accidentally. As you can see, it can get confusing because they seem to have two Shinjuku shops. I advise the dark blue one, because I have used it before and I know for a fact that they have a physical shop (I attached the pic above). Also, it tells you to get there using Shinjuku Gyoenmae metro station which is a smallish station with only three exits. You won't get too lost. Any of the 3 exits will work for you to get to the shop. Make sure you have data roaming and Google Map on your phone. The shop itself has rooms within, but if they are fully occupied, then you still go to the shop, meet the boy and then the boy will walk you to a hotel room nearby. The Shinjuku ni-chome (2-chome) location of Tokyo Kids -- the black tab -- I have never used before. I don't know if they have a shop, or if they use nearby hotels only. If they don't have a shop, they will tell you to meet them at some street location. As a first timer in Tokyo, there's too much of a risk getting lost within the labyrinth of streets. But it can be done if you get a detailed map from them and you also have a detailed map of the metro stations and their exits. I don't advise it, especially when their nearest metro station is Shinjuku san-chome (3-chome). This is a very cmplicated station with well over ten exits. Anybody trying this station for the first time has a 99% chance of getting lost. There is also Ueno branch on Tokyo Kids (brown tab above). I add this as an option because from Narita Airport, there is an express train to Ueno station (shorter time than the train to Shinjuku Station). However, I have never used the Ueno branch before, and I don't actually know where in Ueno (a large city by itself) it is. If you're at Haneda Airport, then Shinjuku is nearer to you than Ueno. I also mentioned Dojo in my above message but I don't think Dojo has a shop. Instead they will tell you to go to a specific location to meet the boy. As with Tokyo Kids' ni-chome location, there's too much of a risk getting lost within the labyrinth of streets if there is no shop to go to.

@floridarob I have sent you a private message. While I have some experience with Japan, it's not that extensive. From those businesses that I have used, Tokyo Kids and Dojo might work for you; they also seem to be reliable and straightforward (re booking). Tokyo Kids has several locations around Tokyo City and other cities too. In my private message I have given you the URL directly to the Shinjuku Gyoenmae shop (I hope). If for any reason, you get the overall landing page of Tokyo Kids just select the dark blue tab at top left:

You should be selling your movie scripts to a porn producer and make some money off them.

@jimmie50 In one of your earlier posts, I think you said something about taking it easy since you have seven weeks. Going by your accounts, you seem to have thrown aside all thoughts of a leisurely holiday, and now appear to be challenging @vinapu for a title. 🤣

Wouldn't you have some indication from seeing which countries those guys on Rentmen are from -- those that interest you? Also, while Rentmen may be reliably based on real humans, if you're seeing muscular East and Southeast Asians elsewhere on the internet, beware that many are AI-generated. The Chinese are particularly good at it. Re costs, I think @floridarob has given good advice, heed him.

This is good news, though I was anyway half-expecting they would re-open. They had a lease, and I didn't think it would be easy to just give up and get out of the lease. I would be nervous however if they still stuck to the same old business model which your report seems to describe. And now that the name of the bar has changed, we should open a new thread with the right name.

They should offer private dances too.🤪

Then they have expanded. Even on my last visit they only had the first floor, not the ground floor. Now they've taken up the ground floor too, it seems. "most of us"? You must be American 🤣 In many places around the world, the floor aligned with the street is referred to as the ground floor (French: Rez-de-chaussée; German: Erdgeschoss; Spanish: Planta baja) First floor is the first floor above that. (French: premier étage; German: Erste etage; Spanish: primer piso). I particularly love the totally logical way some lifts are numbered in Europe: (yes, lifts to me, not elevators). 6 5 4 3 2 1 0 -1 -2

Phayathai BTS station, use exit 2 at its southeast corner. Walk down to pavement and continue walking south for about 100 metres. Look out for Pathumwan Resort, walk into its private driveway and follow the row of shops/cafes on the driveway's north side. Some distance in, the door to Ganymede's stairs should be on your left. I don't think the sentry box is ever manned. Even if it is, the guard won't bother with pedestrians.

Surely these two can't be the same human?

I noticed that since 28 February, Prestige no longer lists boys at their Sukhumvit location. They're all now at their Sathorn branch (what I call the Chong Nonsi location). Either they're remodelling the Sukhumvit shop and will reopen later, or they've decided to give it up. If the latter, you might have been one of the last customers there.

@Olddaddy Are you referring to the host /cabaret bars of Jomtien Complex specifically? I know the title of the thread says Jomtien, but we often stray from the topic, so just checking....

Assuming it's the same boss (Arthur?), we should give this guy credit for persistence. Interesting too that a different business model appears to be on the way. I never quite liked the logo featuring a mutant, aggressive, over-steroided feline anyway 😂

@jay3w Love the granularity in your report. Also glad for you that you're having a good time. @Ian here Beware the insufferable day temperatures in July. Day maxima reach 36 or 37 degrees with nearly 100% humidity. After sundown, it's better but still doesn't fall below 29 or 30 degrees until maybe 9pm.

There's a difference between recommended tip and minimum tip. Arena tells you the recommended tip, which includes sexual activity. TCS and other upmarket places advise on minimum tip -- which does NOT include sexual activity (or, at most a handjob with the masseur remaining fully dressed). TCS will not discuss sexual activity with you; it has to be privately negotiated in the room with the service provider himself.

I notice you're not even mentioning USA carriers. 🤣

@emiel1981 I've been staring at your photo of chicken & cashewnuts. I can hardly see any chicken 😆

I agree with @Moses. There are no massage shops in Pattaya, not even Paradise, where you can reliably expect a high standard of massage complemented by extra service. There may be a few places, e.g. in Terminal 21, where trained therapists work, but (a) the shop will have a strict policy against anything erotic and (b) you're almost surely going to get a woman servicing you. For the latter reason, I have never bothered to try.

He probably said "body to body". As @Enchanted_Elixir said, 900 baht is the going rate for B2B. That's usually as far as S'Sense boys would go.

😒 Always good to have these first hand reports. Crowd-sourced info with multiple data points always useful. You said "two of us". Why was the other party disappointed?

Thanks for the mention. Here's the review from a year ago: https://shamelessmacktwo.travel.blog/2025/05/18/down-in-the-crypt/ in case others are interested. Once inside the massage room, the night market feels very far away. There was no noise at all. Was that your observation too?