8 hours ago, Londoner said:

I go along with that. Anything extreme, extraordinary or "enhanced" has always been a turn-off.

Controversially, I must add  that enormous length or girth is also unwelcome....I know that for many, "size matters" but, for me,  smaller than average is preferable. Am I alone in this?

You're not alone. It's been quite amazing to me (amazing in a good sense) that different people have such widely varying perceptions of desirability. Every somatotype -- from thin to Thor -- has its admirers. I even know quite a few friends who are into chubs. Personally, I like the boy-next-door or fit-athletic type, and even those past 30 and beginning to fill out. And as for size down there, it's never mattered much to me. Below average is fine. It's skill that I am more interested in. For me the key consideration is: Can the service provider provide a good service?

More interestingly, I have also observed that not only is the desired type different from one beholder to another, the spread is also dfferent. Some have very narrowly specific tastes, while others (me included) have a wider range of acceptability, and not just in body type either. In terms of age range as well.

Observing people and the spectrum of tastes has been one of more intellectual pleasures of my many visits to Thailand. 

13 hours ago, macaroni21 said:

More interestingly, I have also observed that not only is the desired type different from one beholder to another, the spread is also dfferent. Some have very narrowly specific tastes, while others (me included) have a wider range of acceptability, and not just in body type either. In terms of age range as well.

I like your observation. Unfortunately I have very narrow specific taste they must be 18-22 y.o. ,smooth body ,very slim  beautiful face and gentle/polite nature . The frustrating search looking for the boy I like can take some time when I am in Thailand and  I find myself couple of nights lonely eventually once the correct boy is found I prefer to stick with him most of my vacation and avoid the endless frustrating Search for short time . Gladly to say that almost every vacation I had in Thailand I managed to find the type I like willing to stay with me long term with the 'boyfreind' illusion experience. This is why I love Thailand so much the magical country where you can fulfill your dreams and desires so easy . 

When I first arrived, back in 1995, I had exactly the same taste as Boy69, but over time,  I found my tastes changing.  I came to value experience and expertise as much as looks and found that older guys were often more reliable. I can recall thirty year-olds - Thais keep their youthful looks longer than we do-  who provided a better service and certainly better company. I liked chatting to them. 

At the same time, I discovered that the cutest dancers of all, the most popular and in demand in Pattaya's go go bars, may not always "deliver" , particularly if a return to the bar and another customer were in the offing.  I hated it when a guy would rush off after his shower.

At the same time, I began to insist that my partner was gay....though I accepted that I couldn't expect complete honesty.

 I met P. in 2005 and he most definitely fitted Boy69's ideal....and mine.  We've aged together (him better than me!)  and looking at those early photos certainly remind me why I was so attracted to him. 

 

2 hours ago, Boy69 said:

I have very narrow specific taste they must be 18-22 y.o. ,smooth body ,very slim  beautiful face and gentle/polite nature

That's exactly what I still prefer and used to chase after, although I always had more flexibility on the upper age limit.

 

16 hours ago, macaroni21 said:

For me the key consideration is: Can the service provider provide a good service?

However, like Macaroni, I find good service comes into it far more these days.  So I'm more inclined to overlook things like a slightly over sized waist and significant hair on the lower leg if the lad is good to be with.

However, I'm not going to throw all of the old rules out and get anyone who is overweight, with chest hair etc.

Also, a smile goes a long way, at least when we first meet.    Compare a lad in one Jomtien bar who's always smiling, but could do with losing 3~4kg, with another in the centre of the complex who is younger, fairly skinny and is always scowling, both in person and on his profile on the phone apps. 

 

5 hours ago, z909 said:

who is younger, fairly skinny and is always scowling, both in person and on his profile on the phone apps. 

I think it's a cultivated persona -- the "emo" look -- which apparently has its admirers too. 😲

Scowling may also sometimes indicate a trip to the optician...

21 hours ago, Boy69 said:

I have very narrow specific taste they must be 18-22 y.o. ,smooth body ,very slim  beautiful face and gentle/polite nature .

I'm at other end of scale, I like  25-35 , smooth,  muscular, rough face and manners but must be smiling in my direction as it indicates some interest , even if fake,

talkative is a bonus

On another hand I make sure I visit every bar and  from time to time as a spice I like to off cute twink , smooth, smile and talkative still applies though

Has anyone ever come across a Thai boy with what I believe is called a Prince Albert - a cock ring inserted into the tip of the penis. I have only seen this in a porn video and it actually disgusts me even more than mooks. I have heard the rumour that Queen Victoria's husband had had one inserted and that this is the reason for the name. No idea if this is true, though.

2 hours ago, vinapu said:

I'm at other end of scale, I like  25-35 , smooth,  muscular, rough face and manners but must be smiling in my direction as it indicates some interest , even if fake,

If so we can be perfect companionship no competition between us when hunting boys together. lol.

A little back to a minor remark of dear khun vinapu, about HTL asking to keep ID of guy during stay. Actually this is GOOD service in Thai way of thinking. They will/should also fone you when guy comes to collect ID to ask if there were not any problems, did you miss anything? Remember this was indeed standard practice in Pattaya when I was there=long ago.

And yes, looks do not say very much or rather often reverse. Good service is. Plus that Thai still are mistified in the apparently different tastes that these funny farang have in what is ´handsomeness´.

Once had a guy-mostly due to lack of others on a rainy day at odd hours, with 1 of such mook. But he was very experienced and really knew how to use it to full satisfaction. I think this is/was also a fashion rage once and has about disappeared with todays younger guys-except maybe from way back out in the sticky rice areas. But alas-those nasty tattoos, ever growing bigger, seem to have overtaken. Just close your eyes and get the feeling.

in which location are there more money boys on the apps?

On 4/24/2023 at 5:38 AM, dudesnude19 said:

in which location are there more money boys on the apps?

The Romeo app has a reputation for money boys finding their wallet mates.