On 12/18/2022 at 3:53 AM, floridarob said:

Great conversations isn't even on the list of things I remember or like about Thailand.....not with money boys anyway.

I had several fascinating conversations with bar boys over the years. When Classic Boys had to be closed because of a fire in the premises above, most of the boys were farmed out for a few weeks to other bars. A friend and I were then quite regulars at Solid Bar near Mango Tree. On one visit we noticed a new guy who I asked over for drinks. He had a smile to die for and, surprisingly, spoke very good English. I took him off twice. On the second occasion he came back to my flat where we chatted for at least two hours before moving to the bedroom. What really surprised me was that he was 34 - and looked no more than 24, he was married with two young children, yet happilly bottomed - and sex was among the best I had experienced. Had he not been married and straight, he would certainly have been bf material.

7 hours ago, PeterRS said:

I had several fascinating conversations with bar boys over the years.

would they feel the same way if asked by someone 😉

I learnt very quickly when I became a Pattaya regular that older guys were more fun, that they were more likely to be able to converse in decent English and that their experience of sex made them better practitioners. And that they kept their looks.

  

 

3 hours ago, Londoner said:

I learnt very quickly when I became a Pattaya regular that older guys were more fun, that they were more likely to be able to converse in decent English and that their experience of sex made them better practitioners. And that they kept their looks.

  

 

Older guys in their 30s are so better than the younger guys who sometimes have no idea what there are doing. And muscular guys are rarely 20 yo...

4 hours ago, Londoner said:

I learnt very quickly when I became a Pattaya regular that older guys were more fun, that they were more likely to be able to converse in decent English and that their experience of sex made them better practitioners. And that they kept their looks.

I find that being able to have a conversation with a guy is an opportunity not to be wasted. Not only does it break the ice, it gives him a chance to relate to me in a non-sexual way that I very much crave. I want to know something about his life away from the bar or the shop. I want make a connection beyond the obvious.

I was fascinated by their childhood experiences in Isaan and so on.  About the arrival of electricity to their homes, twenty or so years ago and its impact. And where applicable, their experiences when they did their "monk duty". I wanted to learn about their reactions to their arrival in Pattaya and (if they were forthcoming- not all were!) about their feelings when they were first offed. And of course, about their lives in Pattaya, where they lived, how they lived....so much!

Some guys weren't communicative of course and many lacked the necessary English but those who could express themselves taught me a lot.

 

i had a short affair with an older guy who worked part time on reception in a bkk hotel where I stayed 12 years ago towards the end of my trip. He liked chatting to me, explaining that he needed to improve his English to get a better hotel job. Once when he was off duty I invited him to have a drink with me in the hotel bar, during which we talked about his life in Thailand mentioning that he used to be married but was now gay. He asked me about my life, work, and interests during which I told him I was also gay, which he said he suspected because he had not seen me with lady. A few drinks later he accepted my invitation to go to my room for sex and to sleep with me. 
He had a good body and we had a great time - not just that night but for the rest of my trip. But what made those days enjoyable more was the breadth of our wide ranging conversations. One day we went on the tourist train to Samut Songcran where he had worked before and could explain to me the Thai fishing industry. A totally better experience than I had had with young money boys. I did give him significant money and a leaving present of course. He did admit that I was not the first farang with whom he had such an experience.
 

10 hours ago, Londoner said:

 I wanted to learn about their reactions to their arrival in Pattaya and (if they were forthcoming- not all were!) about their feelings when they were first offed.

 

you must be good interlocutor because over years I noticed that buy are very discreet about their  and their clients sex experiences and I like that part.

Several guys I offed were offed previously by other men I know and they were aware of it. Never ever that made any comment about that other customer of theirs if they were aware I know him. 

I too like to converse with providers about their world. Necessary discretion isnt a prblm; the can tell stories w/o disclosing identities.

54 minutes ago, 12is12 said:

I too like to converse with providers about their world. Necessary discretion isnt a prblm; the can tell stories w/o disclosing identities.

I agree, chat and a drink enhances the experience!

9 hours ago, vinapu said:

Several guys I offed were offed previously by other men I know and they were aware of it. Never ever that made any comment about that other customer of theirs if they were aware I know him. 

I agree. In my experience, guys are much more willing to discuss their personal background (family and other jobs) but I don't recall any having talked about customers other than commenting on where they come from. Most guys seem more interested in the guy they're with at the moment. And that's fine with me.