I just spent my first day in Bkk as a single man.
6 orgasms, and I am spent.

Twice with a freebee from grinder, a cute but a little 32 yo chubby Pinoy.

1 massage from a place on Siloam rd.

Another Pinoy on grinder which I paid 3000 (he was soooo cute!)

1 hot male guy  

1 tawan guy.

On top of that I tipped 2 guys to let me fondle them, 1  in freshmen and 1 in dreamboys. 

Not a cheap day, but I have to say, between hotmale , freshmen and dreamboys. I would probably have all my need met for 6 months. 

1 hour ago, Tartegogo said:

I just spent my first day in Bkk as a single man.
6 orgasms, and I am spent.

Twice with a freebee from grinder, a cute but a little 32 yo chubby Pinoy.

1 massage from a place on Siloam rd.

Another Pinoy on grinder which I paid 3000 (he was soooo cute!)

1 hot male guy  

1 tawan guy.

On top of that I tipped 2 guys to let me fondle them, 1  in freshmen and 1 in dreamboys. 

Not a cheap day, but I have to say, between hotmale , freshmen and dreamboys. I would probably have all my need met for 6 months. 

6 orgasms on a first day... wow that is intense !!

Congrats to OP. You are in line for a medal at the gay sex Olympics.

☺️

Hey, great start! 

Like you, I had six orgasms this year as well.

After getting too much sex in the last 2 days I have stopped to reflect on just 10 paid encounters and I have to say I must have not chosen the right guys. 
There seems to be a lot of pillow princesses, I have to do all the work! 

in Brazil they all want to kiss me, and I mean put their tongue deep down my throat, not just pecks, and they touch my body as if I actually was hot, also they suck me without prompt. 

Here if I don’t specifically ask, they won’t do anything and even when i ask they do it only reluctantly. Some of them have issues getting hard. 
I mean it is fine they are hot and I am gonna keep enjoying their bodies, but I worry I will leave without actually having felt “wanted” (except by the freebies on  Grindr). It is also easily double the price from Rio.

Let me know if you have a view on what I am doing wrong with my hires. 

Going to Foodland for breakfast later on (today, Wednesday 1st), I’ll wear a red T-shirt, if anyone is there and wants to say hello. 
 

This may be one of those situations where describing the kind of experience you're looking for with mamasan may help. You want to do this before you call a boy over to sit with you. Hopefully, the mamasan can point out boys that are your best bet.

Massage shops don't have mamasans and just how helpful the receptionist will be is debatable. You may want  check out the shops in Saphan Kwai (K-Man and KK Massage come to mind) where they identify their guys as "T" (top) and "T&B" (top and bottom) along with their height, weight and minimum tip.

At 365 The River shop, they offer "B2B" (body to body) option that has a 1,000 bht minimum tip.

Although the majority of the guys in most bars and shops identify as straight that doesn't mean they won't provide a satisfactory experience. At some point you have to trust your instincts as you seem to already be doing.

Those who can't get hard (which in my experience is pretty rare) never result in a good outcome. If you have any doubts before offing them, ask them outright If they have any trouble getting hard. If language is an issue, use your translator app or ask the mamasan.

The massage shops mentioned above have LINE accounts. If you want to see a large number of guys in person, walk down Silom Soi 6. There are currently six shops, each one with probably 10-12 guys on hand at any given time.

31 minutes ago, reader said:

This may be one of those situations where describing the kind of experience you're looking for with mamasan may help. You want to do this before you call a boy over to sit with you. Hopefully, the mamasan can point out boys that are your best bet.

Yeah, that is another one of my pet peeves. I hate those mamasans, they want to control where you sit (even when the bar is empty), they don’t let you interact with the boys as you want, (you have to select one and buy him a drink first), they are pushy and insistent.

The direct intermingling with the boys at the bar of club 117 (for example) feels so much more natural.

If at least those mamasans in Bangkok were eye candy… the moonlight mamasans are particularly annoying. And there are like 6 of them!

37 minutes ago, reader said:

The massage shops mentioned above have LINE accounts. If you want to see a large number of guys in person, walk down Silom Soi 6. There are currently six shops, each one with probably 10-12 guys on hand at any given time.

Yep I had one experience there and that is one of the times I did not feel sexy at all.
Will try again. 
 

I will be based in saphan Kwai next week, all these places are on my list. 

If you can’t get what you’re looking for at Kman or KK Massage you will have a hard time finding what you you’re looking for in Bangkok. As Reader said they advertise top or bottom. Bottom is probably going to lead to gay.  Most of those  boys  are very good  at their job. .   Enough English spoken to get your point across.   I’ve been using Kman for last year. Nothing lacking.   

 

3 hours ago, reader said:

Those who can't get hard (which in my experience is pretty rare)

With your legs, they better get hard 😉

 

4 hours ago, Tartegogo said:

and even when i ask they do it only reluctantly

I've posted many times about the differences between the countries...... Thailand= food, massage, culture....if you happen to get good sex, was a bonus.

                                                                                                                           Brasil= big dicks, big asses, lots of outgoing fun both in/out of bed, if you get a good massage and a good restaurant is a bonus, lol
 

1 hour ago, floridarob said:

With your legs, they better get hard 😉

 

I've posted many times about the differences between the countries...... Thailand= food, massage, culture....if you happen to get good sex, was a bonus.

                                                                                                                           Brasil= big dicks, big asses, lots of outgoing fun both in/out of bed, if you get a good massage and a good restaurant is a bonus, lol
 

I only got 50 hours of experience in Bkk but that sounds about right. 
 

Tho I love Brazilian culture too. And it is easier to interact with, for me (so I am biased). 

Kissing is viewed rather differently in Thai culture than ours. 

7 hours ago, floridarob said:

With your legs, they better get hard 😉

 

I've posted many times about the differences between the countries...... Thailand= food, massage, culture....if you happen to get good sex, was a bonus.

                                                                                                                           Brasil= big dicks, big asses, lots of outgoing fun both in/out of bed, if you get a good massage and a good restaurant is a bonus, lol
 

One important point. Thailand is relatively safe. Brazil is many things, and you have listed some of the obvious, but safe it is not.

On 1/31/2023 at 4:24 AM, Tartegogo said:

I just spent my first day in Bkk as a single man.
6 orgasms, and I am spent.

Twice with a freebee from grinder, a cute but a little 32 yo chubby Pinoy.

1 massage from a place on Siloam rd.

Another Pinoy on grinder which I paid 3000 (he was soooo cute!)

1 hot male guy  

1 tawan guy.

On top of that I tipped 2 guys to let me fondle them, 1  in freshmen and 1 in dreamboys. 

Not a cheap day, but I have to say, between hotmale , freshmen and dreamboys. I would probably have all my need met for 6 months. 

How was Tawan? Number and quality of boys on offer? 

6 hours ago, Londoner said:

Kissing is viewed rather differently in Thai culture than ours. 

What is the difference? How is it viewed in Thai culture? Kissing is fairly important to me during an encounter with a boy, so I'm interested in understanding.

4 hours ago, sydneyboy1 said:

How was Tawan? Number and quality of boys on offer? 

Not many, maybe 8 boys? 5 were a little chubby for me, but in every place I go I always find a few that I would off, so I will never complain that there is a variety of body types.

and chubby can work for me if the face is really cute. 

I just checked out the new queen place and new nature boy. 
 

queen is under refurbishment 

new nature boy is open but is really tiny and had just 2 boys. 

The freebies on Grindr are just so much more passionate in bed! I never would get hit up by a 23 yo or even a 30 yo in New York on Grindr who wants me for free but here it is happening all the time. 
And it is both locals and tourists alike. 

Weird, but OK!

23 minutes ago, JimmyJoe said:

What is the difference? How is it viewed in Thai culture? Kissing is fairly important to me during an encounter with a boy, so I'm interested in understanding.

Firstly, never in public. Secondly, you may ( I stress "may") find  what we call  French kissing unwelcome or perhaps unexpected. Younger Thais, brought-up on falang porn and so on, may be more receptive.  If I were in the market for such things, I think I'd be  careful. That's all.

You may like to investigate (on Google!) the sniff-kiss. Or, if you can, get hold of  "Very Thai" by Philip Cornwel-Smith  which is full of information relating to popular Thai culture.

17 hours ago, Tartegogo said:

After getting too much sex in the last 2 days I have stopped to reflect on just 10 paid encounters and I have to say I must have not chosen the right guys. 
There seems to be a lot of pillow princesses, I have to do all the work!

Same here. Paid and even free encounters, some are what I call "lazy bottom", which is not my style. And I found no other way than actually having the boy in bed, that's why I go through such high numbers (by my standards, up to 10 new boys every month) to find the few who are good matches in bed.

4 hours ago, Londoner said:

Younger Thais, brought-up on falang porn and so on, may be more receptive.  If I were in the market for such things, I think I'd be  careful. That's all.

Interestingly, The 23 yo that i got free this morning from grinder was very keen on French kissing. 
The money boys, not so much so far, except for one Cambodian guy from hotmale tonight who was an exception, he was ok with it. 

Update on Jupiter, hotmale and a question on freshboys

jupiter guys are very impressive, but

1. the music is outrageously loud. 

2. the guys never even try to make eye contact with any of the customers. It really looks like they don’t want to be offed. Very strange. 
3. the mamasans only look after the people with bottle service. Everyone else is thoroughly ignored. 
 

i am not going back, no matter how hot the guys are, I need attention!

 

I went back to hotmale and the mamasan there who was super friendly in my first night recognised me and started advising right away. He was funny, not pushy but actually informative on the boys. 
my favourite was already pre-booked but he introduced me anyway so that I can come back tomorrow and book him if I want to. 
 

I chose à short super cute Cambodian guy who was champ at both kissing and bottoming and was able to act like he was enjoying himself. 
Hotmale is my favorite so far. 
 

Question on freshboys:

There are often 5 or 6 very cute boys sitting upstairs just outside the entrance. I wasn’t sure if I could do the following without being considered out of bounds: could I sit with them and strike a conversation, (without involving the mamasan), like ask if they are available, if they bottom, if they like kissing etc?

At FreshBoys you can interact with the boys outside.    They don’t stay outside very long so you need to be quick to catch them.  

As you rise around this time, it’s Groundhog Day. Hope your expectations are finally met, and then again and again and again.

I’m hoping for muscle worship later this year. I need them to be a bit more interactive than a blow-up or Raggedy Andy doll, and facial handsomeness is a bonus, but I could care less whether or not they are subjectively ‘into me’, be it genuinely or performative. 

On 1/31/2023 at 7:05 AM, TotallyOz said:

Hey, great start! 

Like you, I had six orgasms this year as well.

Hope you’re not now visually compromised if that’s Western, or blind if it’s Chinese Lunar. 

19 hours ago, sydneyboy1 said:

One important point. Thailand is relatively safe. Brazil is many things, and you have listed some of the obvious, but safe it is not.

Feel free to do a poll in the  Brasil forum to how many have actually had a problem....Houston and Chicago aren't safe for that matter.

I've had problems in Brasil, but they were because I went looking for it.....😉

Since I've learned to follow the advice of Gremlins, nothing good happens after midnight, I've been fine, lol