Hardship stories

[spoon]

34 minutes ago, srvhakko said:

ex-Jupiter guy

Do you know if he is returning to working back in jupiter or elsewhere?

[srvhakko]

23 minutes ago, spoon said:

Do you know if he is returning to working back in jupiter or elsewhere?

Actually, when I first met him 2 years ago, he was working at Moonlight Bar, then he moved to Jupiter Bar.

His first choice is Jupiter Bar, his second choice is to work at Dreamboy Bar.

[Keithambrose]

6 hours ago, srvhakko said:

On friday I received a message from my Cambodian friend (ex-Jupiter guy) who is preparing to return to Thailand at the end of this month. He demanded 200 USD.
I've known him for two years and he knows my approach to sending money well, except in very difficult times.

If it was just someone usual or someone I'd only met a few times, I wouldn't have cared about the message.

My ability to empathize with him has improved because he is someone special to me.

He had to return home for three months due to a political issue and doesn't have a stable job there. I know he's responsible for taking care of his mother and siblings, and I know he needs to pay a bank loan.

He's saving up to go back, he has to rent a new room and start all over again. For the sake of old days and our friendship, l have sent money via Western Union. 

l received a surprising thank you message: "I will never forget this kindness and I will spend the night with you the day you come to Bangkok. I will make you happy and I will not ask for money." 

This message cheered me up.I think a prepaid bussiness has been arranged😀

I hope you are right!

[vinapu]

6 hours ago, srvhakko said:

 

l received a surprising thank you message: "I will never forget this kindness and I will spend the night with you the day you come to Bangkok. I will make you happy and I will not ask for money." 

This message cheered me up.I think a prepaid bussiness has been arranged😀

Indeed , if it was me after receiving such a message I'd consider loan forgiven in exchange for that promised free night.

I had a case (also Cambodian ) whom I helped in covid time. He did not make any commitments but when we  met finally after covid it was clear he doesn't expect any compensation for our encounter and was plainly surprised I forked out some money.

But it spoiled him too., After some time he asked for  small  loan promising to pay it for sure in 1 month, which I  forwarded to  without mentioning in 1 month I will be in Pattaya to collect it in person. Of course repayment never happened but also further money requests stopped for good. No hard feelings as I have soft spot for him (orphaned entirely when kid, I got it from third party so not his invented sob story)

[hank75]

5 hours ago, srvhakko said:

Actually, when I first met him 2 years ago, he was working at Moonlight Bar, then he moved to Jupiter Bar.

His first choice is Jupiter Bar, his second choice is to work at Dreamboy Bar.

1. I know a few Cambodian boys who either worked at Moonlight or Jupiter but can’t recall any who worked at both, so if you’re willing to satisfy idle curiosity please do

2. He asked for exact amount to pay the cross border “visa” (passport bribe) and travel money to Bangkok 

3. A few other Cambodians are planning their return as the border situation has calmed down and they have been stuck there just long enough to properly run out of money by now 

 

[srvhakko]

1 hour ago, vinapu said:

Indeed , if it was me after receiving such a message I'd consider loan forgiven in exchange for that promised free night.

I had a case (also Cambodian ) whom I helped in covid time. He did not make any commitments but when we  met finally after covid it was clear he doesn't expect any compensation for our encounter and was plainly surprised I forked out some money.

But it spoiled him too., After some time he asked for  small  loan promising to pay it for sure in 1 month, which I  forwarded to  without mentioning in 1 month I will be in Pattaya to collect it in person. Of course repayment never happened but also further money requests stopped for good. No hard feelings as I have soft spot for him (orphaned entirely when kid, I got it from third party so not his invented sob story)

I only trust three people in Thai bar scene and I believe what they say. I think our relationship has gone beyond bar boy-customer over the years; we consider each other as friends. One of them my best friend Lao guy, others two Cambodian.

Mr.Vinapu, Have you ever thought about writing a blog about your experiences in Asian countries Thailand, Cambodia, Vietnam etc. including  nightlife, places to visit, prices, bars, massage parlors, stories, things to consider, etc.?

[zoomomancs]

1 hour ago, hank75 said:

1. I know a few Cambodian boys who either worked at Moonlight or Jupiter but can’t recall any who worked at both, so if you’re willing to satisfy idle curiosity please do

2. He asked for exact amount to pay the cross border “visa” (passport bribe) and travel money to Bangkok 

3. A few other Cambodians are planning their return as the border situation has calmed down and they have been stuck there just long enough to properly run out of money by now 

 

Is it the case that if Cambodian people arrive by air in Thailand they get 60 days visa exempt but only 7 days if they arrive by land?

[hank75]

4 hours ago, zoomomancs said:

Is it the case that if Cambodian people arrive by air in Thailand they get 60 days visa exempt but only 7 days if they arrive by land?

Not true, all bar boys (that I know of) do the land border crossing because they can pay for a 60 day visa and no official record of their multiple entries and departures, unlike by air. 

Just 2 weeks ago a Cambodian boy tried to bring a customer through the land crossing en route to Siem Reap. Boy got through successfully, customer did not and had to retrace back to Bangkok and buy a flight ticket. I don’t understand why either. Surely with a valid passport they are entitled to cross like any other tourist. Customer was Chinese if anyone can offer an explanation. 

 

[vinapu]

7 hours ago, srvhakko said:

 

Mr.Vinapu, Have you ever thought about writing a blog about your experiences in Asian countries Thailand, Cambodia, Vietnam etc. including  nightlife, places to visit, prices, bars, massage parlors, stories, things to consider, etc.?

I did and dismissed that idea as too time consuming. I like my books and evening strolls in the woods nearby.

For the same reason I 'm active only on this forum and other two Thai gay forums for me are 'read only' . 

[zoomomancs]

7 hours ago, hank75 said:

Not true, all bar boys (that I know of) do the land border crossing because they can pay for a 60 day visa and no official record of their multiple entries and departures, unlike by air. 

Just 2 weeks ago a Cambodian boy tried to bring a customer through the land crossing en route to Siem Reap. Boy got through successfully, customer did not and had to retrace back to Bangkok and buy a flight ticket. I don’t understand why either. Surely with a valid passport they are entitled to cross like any other tourist. Customer was Chinese if anyone can offer an explanation. 

 

Or is the land border still closed except for Cambodians returning to Cambodia? Do you know of Cambodian people being able to enter Thailand by land in recent weeks?