Olddaddy Posted Tuesday at 02:57 AM Author Posted Tuesday at 02:57 AM 13 hours ago, floridarob said: I pay to get them to do what I want and not to do what I don't want. Once I cum, I'm normally finished.....when it's a free hookup, you feel obligated to help get the other guy off and I've been on the other side of that coin with free, they finish and say they are done , leaving me hanging, karma. I also don't like to suck dick much anymore or kiss (never did, too gay) and when a MB says suck my dick, I laugh and say 'Hey, you're the one being paid, suck mine" SO paying, allows me to set the rules, so to speak and set the scene..... I'm always upfront with what my likes/dislikes are and what I'm expecting before closing the deal.... also making it clear that if they can't perform (stay hard) or cum, not to expect the money we've agreed on, so there's no surprises for them..... a couple took it as a challenge and really performed. One guy when going with me, said he will give me 1 hour...I said one hour? We finished in 30 minutes, so I reminded him he said one hour as he was getting dressed, his eyes widened realizing he shouldn't have said anything, that sword cuts both ways.... I had him give me a massage for the remaining 30 minutes 😉 He must of been 😄 thrilled zombie, floridarob and vinapu 1 2 Quote
Mavica Posted Tuesday at 05:35 AM Posted Tuesday at 05:35 AM 21 hours ago, zombie said: "the most expensive sex is 'free sex' " Pay me now, or pay me later. zombie 1 Quote
Popular Post PeterRS Posted Wednesday at 02:08 AM Popular Post Posted Wednesday at 02:08 AM On 4/28/2025 at 8:44 PM, floridarob said: One guy when going with me, said he will give me 1 hour...I said one hour? We finished in 30 minutes, so I reminded him he said one hour as he was getting dressed, his eyes widened realizing he shouldn't have said anything, that sword cuts both ways.... I had him give me a massage for the remaining 30 minutes 😉 As I have got older, that's another issue that bugs me about paid sex - getting your money's worth. Yes, I know it's a transaction and there should be rules. But now I find when it comes to sex, I hate being limited by "rules of engagement" which I guess they might be termed. I no longer like it being a one-sided arrangement - although, once again, I accept that the boy gets his cash. I also like to take time both before and after. I'd hate it if I had to say to someone, "I paid for an hour and there are 30 minutes left!" Worse would be the boy saying "You've had your hour and I have another customer waiting." But these are merely my views. bkkmfj2648, Travellerdave, floridarob and 3 others 6 Quote
vinapu Posted Wednesday at 04:21 PM Posted Wednesday at 04:21 PM 14 hours ago, PeterRS said: I'd hate it if I had to say to someone, "I paid for an hour and there are 30 minutes left!" Worse would be the boy saying "You've had your hour and I have another customer waiting." But these are merely my views. unfortunately both cases happen from time to time . At least we , by paying , have some leverage on the issue. sometimes also reverse happens , we wish boy goes but he is still hanging around glued to his phone, watching Tv or, horror of horrors , occupies toilet for an hour. floridarob and Patanawet 2 Quote
a-447 Posted Thursday at 02:21 AM Posted Thursday at 02:21 AM On 4/30/2025 at 10:08 AM, PeterRS said: As I have got older, that's another issue that bugs me about paid sex - getting your money's worth. Yes, I know it's a transaction and there should be rules. But now I find when it comes to sex, I hate being limited by "rules of engagement" which I guess they might be termed. I no longer like it being a one-sided arrangement - although, once again, I accept that the boy gets his cash. I also like to take time both before and after. I'd hate it if I had to say to someone, "I paid for an hour and there are 30 minutes left!" Worse would be the boy saying "You've had your hour and I have another customer waiting." But these are merely my views. All those problems disappear when you have a regular guy you 'spend time with' on your trip. Finding that guy is the problem. For years I had a regular in Pattaya and although I went out to the bars at night, he was the only guy I had sex with - once in the afternoon and once at night. I've also got a regular in Bangkok. I have sex with him once a day, every day, and find someone else at night. He is always willing to introduce me to guys he thinks I'd like, as he knows me very well. And he has lots of guys to choose from. He once introduced me to a friend from Lao. He said I'd like him because he had a big cock. His friend turned up at the bar, where we sat together and I got to inspect the goods. We went straight to the hotel! As I get older, I'm less interested in the chase and negotiating with new guys all the time. I make an offer and it's on a take it or leave it basis. bkkmfj2648, vinapu, Mavica and 1 other 4 Quote
Londoner Posted Thursday at 06:26 AM Posted Thursday at 06:26 AM Were it not for a rent-boy in London thirty year ago I would still be a gay virgin. I would never have summoned-up the courage to meet anyone without that experience. Two of my friends, whom I knew to be secretly gay, actually did die celibate, one for religious reasons, the out of fear of his sexuality being discovered. Ruthrieston, khaolakguy, revengeboo and 5 others 3 5 Quote
revengeboo Posted Thursday at 09:28 PM Posted Thursday at 09:28 PM I pay for sex to hookup with "my type" which is muscular and beautiful. A model type. I've been able to hook up with guys like this without spending money, but the time involved is extraordinary compared to just paying. Such as cruising apps, bars, clubs, saunas, flirting, vibing and sealing the deal. It would be nice if it was not so time-intensive for me to land a hottie, but alas. Time is money, so in reality, I am saving! At least this is what I can tell myself to sleep at night. bkkmfj2648 and vinapu 2 Quote
vinapu Posted Thursday at 10:39 PM Posted Thursday at 10:39 PM 1 hour ago, revengeboo said: Time is money, so in reality, I am saving! At least this is what I can tell myself to sleep at night. specially vacation time revengeboo 1 Quote
fedssocr Posted Thursday at 10:41 PM Posted Thursday at 10:41 PM when you look like I do there aren't a lot of options. Especially as I enter my dotage. But I've been paying for it for a long time. Patanawet 1 Quote
PeterRS Posted Friday at 02:25 AM Posted Friday at 02:25 AM 19 hours ago, Londoner said: Were it not for a rent-boy in London thirty year ago I would still be a gay virgin. I would never have summoned-up the courage to meet anyone without that experience. Two of my friends, whom I knew to be secretly gay, actually did die celibate, one for religious reasons, the out of fear of his sexuality being discovered. I reckon I was fortunate - to a certain extent. Next door to us was a boy of my age. I am probably around the same vintage as @Londoner and although no-one ever spoke of sex in those days other than in hushed tones and gay men were known as queers and poofs, somehow the two of us discovered sexual pleasures in our mid-teens. It was only the usual schoolboy stuff, but enough for me to realise that my interest was in guys not girls. My neighbour went on to marry and have kids. I spent ten years pretending to have girlfriends when all the time I was lusting after other guys. Eventually I gave up the pretence. Moving to Asia in my late 20s certainly opened up my world to one of beautiful young men and much easier and often amazing sex even though one still had to be somewhat discreet in ome parts of the region. Not in Thailand, though! Thankfully I never had to regret not being able to come out until much later. Vessey, Ruthrieston, Londoner and 1 other 3 1 Quote
Popular Post TMax Posted Friday at 04:02 AM Popular Post Posted Friday at 04:02 AM I'm not too sure how things would have turned out if it wasn't for a money boy in Phuket (from memory about 25 years ago), he was my first M2M sex. For some years I had often had thoughts / fantasies about M2M sex but never had the courage to do anything about it, there was a few opportunities but that lack of courage got in the way of. On a trip to Phuket I went for a massage and at the shop there was only the male attendant available so I said yes to him doing the massage, after the massage he asked if I wanted extras and that was the moment I finally said yes and what transpired after that was amazing, the rest is history and every trip I take now I love the massages with extras and don't mind paying (even a bit more if the extras are very good). Of course I still had to overcome the hesitation (embarrassment) of standing in front of the massage boys during the selection process and indicating what I wanted, there is still a bit of that when there are so many boys lined up for me to choose from but I do manage to get through it now. bkkmfj2648, vinapu, kokopelli3 and 3 others 6 Quote
omega Posted Friday at 11:33 PM Posted Friday at 11:33 PM On 4/28/2025 at 10:22 AM, unixmad said: Nothing is truly free. someone is always paying whether it's in therapy bills, child support, etc Dunno, I've had plenty of sex without being on the proverbial hook. Not so much these days. PeterRS 1 Quote
Londoner Posted yesterday at 01:37 PM Posted yesterday at 01:37 PM Perhaps this is a little "off thread" but I've just been thinking about "rent- boys I have known and their "beats". The UK, Holland, Germany, Spain, The Gambia, Egypt (sort-of) and Morocco (nearly!) have all been tested. And Thailand, of course, is the easy winner by a country-mile. Quote
Olddaddy Posted yesterday at 05:19 PM Author Posted yesterday at 05:19 PM 3 hours ago, Londoner said: Perhaps this is a little "off thread" but I've just been thinking about "rent- boys I have known and their "beats". The UK, Holland, Germany, Spain, The Gambia, Egypt (sort-of) and Morocco (nearly!) have all been tested. And Thailand, of course, is the easy winner by a country-mile. I'm hearing more positive about Brazil / South America I remember FloridaRob telling me it's much better floridarob and Raposa 2 Quote
nikba2515 Posted 22 hours ago Posted 22 hours ago Part of an experience for tourist and a must to do during night. An entertaining event one needs to fulfill when in thailand. Custom made with a much younger partner for the night with a small price. Time hasn't changed the business, with Grindr and other sites offer free fun. An exciting thing to choose a partner for the night with an endless choices of local and all ass &cock from around the world. In the bar one can sample the good before hand. Win Win situation. Not just paying for sex, it is a package of an experience & entertainment. vinapu, MaxBKK, Daniu and 1 other 4 Quote
zombie Posted 11 hours ago Posted 11 hours ago Reasons why we pay for sex: If a customer goes into a popular restaurant with delicious food no one would expect that person not to pay for the meal , right? So? bkkmfj2648 1 Quote
a-447 Posted 8 hours ago Posted 8 hours ago Of course, I have to pay for sex at home, not just when I travel. A number of years ago I managed to find 3 guys who met all by requirements - apart from being Asian. Sex in Australia is a rather expensive business so I sat down with each of them separately and worked out a deal which was favourable to all of us. I negotiated a discount, based on the fact that I'd be seeing them once a week over an extended period. They were happy with that as they were assured of a steady income. At they were studying, it was an easy way to make money. I only ever had 1 on 1 sex, never any kind of orgy. The deal was they would arrive at my house sometime in the afternoon and leave after dinner the next day. Sex was on an on- demand basis, which usually meant only twice, or sometimes 3 times. One side of my house has a self-contained apartment and that is where they stayed, apart from when they were in bed with me. I like to sleep alone. All three were into fitness so they had use of my small home gym. I bought them some extra equipment if they wanted it. Another perk for them was they had unlimited access to my credit card at the liquor shop. They'd buy some alcohol and we would sit and drink in the jacuzzi or sit out on the balcony and watch the sun set. Then we'd go out for dinner - they could choose the restaurant. I knew they were all mainly beer drinkers and so didn't have a problem with giving them my visa card. However, on one occasion it backfired and it was all my fault. One day my Italian guy asked me of he could buy some champagne. 'No problem! Go ahead!' 'Really? Are you sure?' What was he worried about? Ffs, if you want it, go get it. I'm very partial to a glass of champagne but I've only ever bought Moet or Verve - nothing too over the top. I was looking forward to sharing a drink with him in the jacuzzi. I almost had a heart attack when he came back with a bottle of Dom Perignon - vintage, no less! He saw the look on my face, apologised and immediately offered to take it back. Of course, he'd done nothing wrong so didn't need to apologise. It was my fault for not putting any limit on the cost. So we went upstairs, got naked, jumped into the jacuzzi and drank it! And had wonderful sex afterwards! But no more Dom! I still see my Italian friend, and of the other 2, one has moved interstate and the other one is not always available. bkkmfj2648 and floridarob 2 Quote
ichigo Posted 8 hours ago Posted 8 hours ago 32 minutes ago, a-447 said: Sex in Australia is a rather expensive business This is why I'm pretty much celibate until I go to Thailand (or other asian countries). vinapu 1 Quote
bkkmfj2648 Posted 7 hours ago Posted 7 hours ago 1 hour ago, a-447 said: Sex in Australia is a rather expensive business In all Western countries. Thank GOD Thailand does not put a 200% or 300% tariff on their illegal product that we all desire and cherish. Quote
spoon Posted 6 hours ago Posted 6 hours ago Reason why we pay for sex. Because we can. vinapu 1 Quote
jason1975 Posted 6 hours ago Posted 6 hours ago If we don't pay, there's no way we can get the guy with that particular number to get down from the stage and sit with us to discuss possible off. vinapu 1 Quote
Members Riobard Posted 5 hours ago Members Posted 5 hours ago Because you can combine retail therapy and hormone therapy. vinapu and bkkmfj2648 2 Quote