Bangkok/Tokyo For 2 Weeks a piece

[NoNameFanBoy]

Heyy Guys,

Yeah I know I could have searched through the forums but posting seems a little bit easier since this one is always active. Anyways to the point. I Usually always take a month long trip in October. Last year was Japan(Tokyo,Osaka,Kyoto) for the first time and the year before was Thailand(Bangkok,Phuket,Pattaya).

I will say when I went to Thailand for the first time I wasn't sure what to do outside of seeing things I saw on tv. So the trip was a little tamed. During my time in BKK I was on Jackd and ended up talking to a few guys I thought wow hot and found out they were money boys? I wanted to make plans with them both at different times but as the day went on one of the boys told me they worked at a club. Of course I thought this was a regular club since this was my first time, but once I got there I found out of course it was more than that. Crazy part is both boys ended up working at that same club. I didn't know about the other guy until I seen him and he seen me. So the lady running the club of course asked me to buy her a drink and any guys I was interested in drinks and to have them sit with me. As I sat there buys a lot of drinks I was also getting messages from both guys. The manager was trying to get me to "off" one or more of them? I think that's the term. I ended up messaging the boy and was just like why don't we meet when you're done so you don't have to pay the manager? He agreed,  & after he came to my hotel and we hooked up. Obviously I paid him. I was what he stated before I even went to his club. We still talk a little now. The other guy messaged me and wanted me to hook up with him when I was away from boy #1. At the club he was messaging me saying "I don't think you boy like me or likes the thought of sharing you". So he backed off because he didn't want drama at the work place. So I ended up sleeping with someone in Phuket that was ready  and willing and ended up with another guy in Pattaya and the guy wanted money. Also I never got a massage while in thailand. All in all I did enjoy my time there. But im sure I broke some rules by having the guys message me after they got off.  I just ended up spending a lot of money on anyone they wanted to send to my table.  

As far as Japan I did make a few post on here about it. 

 

So that was some back story. So the whole time I was in Thailand I didn't know about this forum until after.  So I have a few questions for the Thailand vets. 

1.As someone that doesn't like massages is there a way to just skip that part? or is the massage something I have to do to get to the main thing?

2.Would it just be better to go to the bars and find a guy that way? I just don't think it's fair that you have to go into a bar. buy drinks for people you may not end up with and also buy drink for the pimp. Id rather the boy get all the money. 

3. So Japan has websites where one can hire guys and you just pick a time and a place and boy and BOOM. He's yours. Does thailand offer anything like that? I do follow a few Line account about massages but once again I don't like massages and would rather just get to the point. Plus from what I can gather you have to do everything at their massage place. Which does scare me a little since I read about busts and stuff like that. 

4. If you have suggestions or tips please feel free to drop them.

 

I guess im just trying to see if anyone has any help info before I book the 2 weeks in Japan and 2 Weeks in BKK. In Japan I think I got a quick understanding of what I was getting into, but bkk I will say it was different and im still new to it. Sorry if this is all over the place but ive been thinking about posting this for a few weeks now and finally decided to do it. 

Thanks for any information provided. If you need more information ill try to provide more to the best of my knowlage.

[Kiwi306]

Just to make clear, you absolutely do not have to buy drinks for anyone, apart for yourself, at the bars, unless you choose to. 

I have never heard of anyone skipping the massage. I had a massage at Arena today before a handjob, and I actually felt revitalized afterwards. 

[macaroni21]

9 hours ago, NoNameFanBoy said:

Yeah I know I could have searched through the forums but posting seems a little bit easier since this one is always active.

Normally when I see a post that opens this way, effectively saying "I don't want to do the work, so I ask you to do the work instead, giving me the answers" -- I won't bother to reply. You would also have noticed that other members are also relatively quiet. However, I see that you have contributed trip reports before (from Japan) and I will give you some credit.

But I can't yet answer your question(s) because there are too many pieces of vague-ish information in your post. So, if you will clarify these, you may get more specific responses. But a word of advice: please do not bring Japan into the discussion -- it is such a different place with a totally different business culture, it can only confuse the conversation (and your own expectations).

9 hours ago, NoNameFanBoy said:

as the day went on one of the boys told me they worked at a club. Of course I thought this was a regular club since this was my first time, but once I got there I found out of course it was more than that.

What do you mean by the term "regular club"? And what do you mean by "more than that"? In another paragraph, you used the word "bar". Do you mean the same thing? In your speech, are bars and clubs interchangeable terms for the same type of establishment?

 

9 hours ago, NoNameFanBoy said:

So the lady running the club of course asked me to buy her a drink and any guys I was interested in drinks and to have them sit with me. As I sat there buys a lot of drinks

Was that person really a female or do you mean an MTF transgender? If you can remember, just name the place. We don't know if you're referring to one of the places that members of this forum are familiar with or whether you're at some other place we know little about. We can give you advice about how to protect yourself in place we're familiar with, but if it's a place that also foreign to us, then of course our words are meaningless. That other place may well have business practices that are "normal" for them. Best to be specific about the "club" we're referring to, otherwise we may be going around in circles in the discussion.

9 hours ago, NoNameFanBoy said:

Also I never got a massage while in thailand.

If you managed to have fun in your previous visit to Thailand without ever getting a massage, why are your questions geared to "how to avoid a massage"?

You seem to be asking: How do I get paid sex in Thailand with the type of boy I like -- and I think your preference is for very slim, as-young-looking-as-possible lads -- in my hotel room without any massage activity? Must this be in Bangkok, or are you prepared to spend more time in Pattaya? At 33, you're young enough to score at the saunas -- why do you want to pay?

[floridarob]

10 minutes ago, macaroni21 said:

please do not bring Japan into the discussion -- it is such a different place with a totally different business culture,

Is about what I was going to reply last night before going to bed.

With that being said... I have a 8 hr layover in Japan next month That I will be asking questions about the different places to meet hired guys. All my previous trips to Japan were to saunas and bars/clubs, will be my first time paying as their rate seems in line with what the end cost is in BKK these days.

I find Japan confusing and even though it has a huge public transportation system, I'm always afraid I'll miss my stop or leave the wrong exit and get lost...I often wonder if this is how tourists feel in NYC.

[Keithambrose]

16 minutes ago, floridarob said:

Is about what I was going to reply last night before going to bed.

With that being said... I have a 8 hr layover in Japan next month That I will be asking questions about the different places to meet hired guys. All my previous trips to Japan were to saunas and bars/clubs, will be my first time paying as their rate seems in line with what the end cost is in BKK these days.

I find Japan confusing and even though it has a huge public transportation system, I'm always afraid I'll miss my stop or leave the wrong exit and get lost...I often wonder if this is how tourists feel in NYC.

I found that once you work out the Tokyo subway system,  it's very good. Everything now is also in English, and the directional signs at the stations are excellent. 

 

When I first went to NY, you still had the  3 different subway operators, IRT, BMT, and IND, often with separate entrances. This made the stations and signs very confusing, and the Subway map was a classic, in successfully confusing you! I still  have one of those maps from 1978. Now, things are much better, I think,  though there are  still some issues.

 

I also wonder why the NY Subway cars are built to provide maximum  internal noise! I wonder if they  leave all the screws loose, to achieve  maximum rattling?  Tokyo Subway trains are a pleasure, by comparison.  

[floridarob]

4 minutes ago, Keithambrose said:

When I first went to NY, you still had the  3 different subway operators, IRT, BMT, and IND, often with separate entrances.

Was it like this?

[NoNameFanBoy]

4 hours ago, Kiwi306 said:

Just to make clear, you absolutely do not have to buy drinks for anyone, apart for yourself, at the bars, unless you choose to. 

I have never heard of anyone skipping the massage. I had a massage at Arena today before a handjob, and I actually felt revitalized afterwards. 

Ahh gotcha! Yeah the way she was talking was as if it was mandartory.