Gay (T/B) vs. Straight (T)?

[Daddy415]

Headed back to Bangkok this month for more adventures after a year+ break. I am wondering what experiences have been with therapists who are classified as "gay" vs. "straight." Yes, I'm clear on the T/B thing. But beyond that, are the ones who are classified as "gay" actually gay, less likely to be looking at straight porn as they perform their services? Hope this question makes sense but I'm trying to understand if "gay" means something more than just willing to "take it like a man.

[Travelingguy]

15M is even more precise . They tell you if the person is top, bottom or versatile. But then they also list whether they are gay, straight or bi
 

I am also dubious about just equating a provider’s willingness to bottom with them actually being gay.

[floridarob]

4 hours ago, Travelingguy said:

I am also dubious about just equating a provider’s willingness to bottom with them actually being gay.

I tell guys that I'm not gay....while they're fucking me, So I understand the dilema 😉

[Daddy415]

"Whoa, bro, I thought you might have a pussy down there..."

 

The whole concept of gay / straight in this context is pretty funny when you think about it....😅

[vinapu]

On 8/7/2026 at 1:18 PM, Daddy415 said:

"Whoa, bro, I thought you might have a pussy down there..."

 

The whole concept of gay / straight in this context is pretty funny when you think about it....😅

Fully agree and commented on it many times already.  How really straight is the guy who proclaims to be straight while letting other guy to play with his butt cheeks and staying erect in the process?

[floridarob]

2 hours ago, vinapu said:

Fully agree and commented on it many times already.  How really straight is the guy who proclaims to be straight while letting other guy to play with his butt cheeks and staying erect in the process?

Must've been some first meeting with @Olddaddy 🧐

[Enchanted_Elixir]

On 8/7/2026 at 6:13 AM, Travelingguy said:

I am also dubious about just equating a provider’s willingness to bottom with them actually being gay.

True, some are responding to market incentives. For example, a few straight providers have small dicks and might not have a large enough customer base if they were only offering topping service…

[a-447]

2 hours ago, Enchanted_Elixir said:

True, some are responding to market incentives. For example, a few straight providers have small dicks and might not have a large enough customer base if they were only offering topping service…

That reminds me of a very handsome guy who worked in a bar in Pattaya.

I asked him if I could fuck him, but he said he was top only -  yet he had a very small cock! 

I told him he was sitting on a goldmine, but he was horrified when I told him he should be a bottom.

I had been a top all my life, until I got sick of finding hot guys who were top only. I was seriously missing out on a lot of fun, so I bit the bullet and,  after quite a lot of effort, learnt to be a bottom.

It was one of the best decisions of my life, as it doesn't matter any more whether I top or bottom - and I get to enjoy all the handsome guys.

I suggested he talk to one of the gay guys in the bar and get some advice. I said if I could do it, so could he.

But he said he didn't want to, because he as straight.

I don't get it. It's just a cock up your arse - how you feel about having sex with a man is irrelevant if it's just for money.

His arse, his decision. But if I were on the game, I'd be versatile, that's for sure!

 

 

 

[floridarob]

14 hours ago, a-447 said:

after quite a lot of effort, learnt to be a bottom.

A friend (also bottom)asked me before did it hurt the first time bottoming, I say fuck yes... he asked, why did we do it a 2nd, 3rd and 4th time until the pleasure part started to outweigh the pain..... I told him because I'm no quitter 😝

So glad to hear you're no quitter either 😁

[Daddy415]

Learn on a dildo or an Aneros and you'll be a pro in no time...😂

[a-447]

1 hour ago, Daddy415 said:

Learn on a dildo or an Aneros and you'll be a pro in no time...😂

I decided to become a bottom on a trip to Japan.

I bought a couple of dildos and started with the smallest one, and gradually worked my way up.

My first experience was in the 24 Kaikan sauna in Tokyo.

I lay there on my back, waiting for some action, when a guy got on top of me. I knew this was the moment and my heart was jumping out of my chest.

It was a little painful, but once he got going, it was very enjoyable. Thankfully, he didn't have a big cock. But I had finally done it!!!!! I went home with a huge smile on my face and couldn't wait till I could bottom again.

Thailand was a different kettle of fish.

I like big cocks and the guys I choose invariably come from Isaan - there's something in the water up there! I had a regular guy from Nature Boy in Bangkok, and as both of us were top only, we just enjoyed suck and 'chuck' sessions.

I now wanted him to fuck me, but told him I was scared of his cock. But he took it really slowly and after a lot of effort, managed to get it in. It was quite painful, but I persevered.

After a lot of practise, I even managed to work my way through the hugely hung Shan guys at Adams Apple in Chiang Mai, one by one. Korn is particularly memorable, not just because of his donkey dick, but because he was so gentle and didn't rush things.

Bottoming isn't for everyone- the preparation can be a pain in the arse - but well worth it! 

I love the freedom it gives me to have fun with every handsome guy I meet.

 

 

[Daddy415]

When you are bottoming, if you want them to wear a condom, what's the process? Just get it out and hand it to them with a liter of lube?😄

[a-447]

2 hours ago, Daddy415 said:

When you are bottoming, if you want them to wear a condom, what's the process? Just get it out and hand it to them with a liter of lube?😄

I always insist on using a condom.

The top always knows what to do, so I just leave it to him.

I've been to the otot-otot sauna in Kuala Lumpur many times over the years, but I stopped going because everyone wants to bareback.

[mauRICE]

2 hours ago, a-447 said:

I've been to the otot-otot sauna in Kuala Lumpur many times over the years, but I stopped going because everyone wants to bareback.

You offered your arse to everyone? No wonder they were raided and closed down.

[floridarob]

2 hours ago, a-447 said:

The top always knows what to do, so I just leave it to him.

About 40% of the time I have to be an instructor to show them what to do, they think just sticking it and and act like a jackhammer is being a good top 🙄

Is why when I find someone good in my travels, I'll go with them several times....I hate giving classes over and over again.

[a-447]

1 hour ago, mauRICE said:

You offered your arse to everyone? No wonder they were raided and closed down.

Well, yes, I did.

My mistake was not waiting until I went inside the building!

[mauRICE]

52 minutes ago, a-447 said:

Well, yes, I did.

My mistake was not waiting until I went inside the building!

I think you got your idioms mixed up: it's the early bird catches the worm, not the horny bird catches the sperm. 🙄

[brall3]

"they think just sticking it in and act like a jackhammer is being a good top 🙄" , Flori.  truer words were never spoken.  I frequently have this problem, especially with the guys in Brazil.  Now during the initial conversation I mention that I do not like "jackhammer sex".    If and when they start the drilling, I quickly remind them to slow down and take things easy.  I have no intentions of paying for something that I can not enjoy.  The guys who listen and comply have a repeat customer, me, and I have a wonderful experience.  

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Daddy415]

I need to write a trip report for my weekend in Bangkok. Since I started this thread, I wanted to answer my own question. Based on my extensive experience this weekend (6 "treatments") I would say that T/B straight / gay means very little.  The therapist billed as "gay" at Stars told me about his wife and kids, and was definitely not gay. He was very good looking - too good looking - and I remembered people on this forum saying that the ones who are beautiful put in the least effort, and for me that was true. Find a guy who's a little older, needs the job, and he's going to give you the ride of your life, top or bottom.

Trip report coming soon, once I catch my breath.... 

[MaxBKK]

The guys who are married with kids, etc., and identify as primarily straight,  will do a lot if they like you. This includes bottoming. 

[a-447]

17 hours ago, Daddy415 said:

The therapist billed as "gay" at Stars told me about his wife and kids, and was definitely not gay.

I was fucking a guy in Bangkok over numerous trips.

He was bottom only - or so before said- and absolutely LOVED it! Hearing him moan and watching his face as I shoved it in was a real turn-on for me.

He has a wife and a couple of kids. Whether he was married back then, I don't know.

I wonder if his wife uses a strap-on, of pleasures him with a dildo? 🤣🤣

[spoon]

55 minutes ago, a-447 said:

I wonder if his wife uses a strap-on, of pleasures him with a dildo? 🤣

Even if she did, i dont think that would produce a couple of kids? Lol

[Travelingguy]

I would think for the straight guys that being a bottom would be easier. They wouldn’t have to try to get an erection.

[Keithambrose]

1 hour ago, Travelingguy said:

I would think for the straight guys that being a bottom would be easier. They wouldn’t have to try to get an erection.

But, I like to suck, and my bottoms to cum! Also, if they dont get hard, there's no sense of enjoyment.