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It's fairly easy. Noting stops somebody who is just starting his Thai vacations from creating new thread " I'm in Bangkok from .... to.... , who wants to meet? I found PM highly effective as well since when in LOS I have habit of checking forum at least thrice a day . In Dec 2015 led by ChristianPFC we even managed to assemble 5 members tour to the canals in Wat Sawan area outside of Bangkok on very short notice, all it took to make idea into reality was 1 day.

try 'spinach and cheese ' one at Madrid Tavern , Patpong

I have an embarrassing story of my own, in the morning I realized that previous night I did not exchange money and have almost empty pocket. Left boy in the room explaining my poverty and went to nearest ATM to take some money out , my card was not accepted ! fortunately there was another , more user friendly, nearby. My idiocy cost me an extra 180 baht in unnecessary ATM fees. Boy's alleged stress was compensated next time - I gave him money up front. I too always accompany boy downstairs to retrieve ID card but would not dare to suggest good bye kiss in the lobby even in BBB Inn and the likes. Just a handshake and thank you , good bye.

1. it's why it's important to discuss and set out the rules beforehand 2. can't agree more 3. forgot to mention above, when proudly presented my Pattaya boy to Christian when we met in BKK, what did he say ? " boy is too fat", oh boy !

a little bit too much doom and gloom here For a risk of repeating myself since both adventures were described in my reports on this forum ( if somebody is interested and has problem finding them PM me and I will send you linsks to the archives) I tried both options - taking Pattaya boy to Bangkok for 5 days and Bangkok boy to Pattaya for 2 days. Both times it was their idea of which I made stamp of approval. In both cases I sensed that while compensation was expected , their primary motive was to get a bit of short vacations at my expense. Pattaya boy even come on his own with novelty idea that I can have other boys every night and he will be happy to sleep on the floor, honestly ! Ever gentleman I did not allow such indignity renting him cheap room in Sunflower Place around the corner from Nantra which was full at the time. He used it twice , other three nights we spent together , one of them with an additional boy. There was no jealousy but we had some friction over his complaint that I tipped that third boy too generously in comparison to him. Ever an asshole, I solved it fast by reminding him how well he did financially during that trip / before Bangkok I offed him 4 nights in row in Pattaya /. Before we left Pattaya we discussed everything in detail and he knew that he will be paid daily stipend and of course all expenses but will be tipped only for nights we spent together of which I guaranteed him 2 out of 5 but we finished with 3. The same story was with Tawan boy I took to Pattaya and his expectancies were even lower , he wanted me to pay his off fees and expenses but stressed I don't need to tip him at all and repeated it few times and likely he meant it because he was a bit reluctant when I forced his tip on him upon return. There were nor monetary issues at all neither jealousy . Again , we discussed all in detail before departure and we agreed that for both nights we will be bringing companion which we did. I secured right to threw him out of room if I will need some privacy but it turned out unnecessary. He could have some long time relationship expectancies but those were dispelled before we even went since I offed on his watch quite a few ( 4) of his bar friends before we went so he knew. To summarize with advice to OP and others, if inclined go for it and take boy with you but set out rules about compensation and other boys beforehand and stick to them. Be prepared for some friction but as z909 said above " As you are paying for the trip, it is what you want that matters" but be fair keeping in mind it may be actually YOU who has bad day today , not boy. And since you will be spending lots of time with boy before you go , off him long time at least twice.

Perfect spot , only part missing is paulsf sitting there surrounded by his soi friends. I agree , meeting fellow posters is one of highlights of my every trip to Thailand

I generally like to dine with my boys before and after the long time 'meeting' but I'd skip breakfast part if boy is first to say he wants to go or makes fuss about compensation. On another hand they are being kind of invited since if they ask how long is long , answer inevitably would be ' till breakfast". Recall one such a case when I was not happy in the morning and made it clear ,boy still had a nerve to ask about promised breakfast and I decided to cut him off with ' I'm not hungry" but at least this was behind closed doors.

Still nothing stops us from using our guts and trying for ourselves, worst which may happen it's that bad feedback will be confirmed and some baht wasted but there's always option of pleasant disappointment which some may be willing to explore. I even have few cases in mind from my own experience.

I will be blunt - big time assholish behavior. Sure, there's no obligation to treat our companions with breakfast but there are nice solutions, either one you suggested to escort him to the street level or simply send boy his way, wait few minutes and go to the dining room alone. Quite possible there's something else to the story. I almost always off long time and never ever had situation that boy suggested or invited himself to accompany me to a breakfast and this includes boys who were offed previously and knew that breakfast will be offered as is my custom unless I'm not happy with a boy for some reason. Anyways , even if that was miscommunication farang should show class and treat boy with breakfast unless there was very good reason not too. Obviously he was not embarrassed to be seen in boy's company.

all what?

it looks we will get quite a story here and can only hope that sharing it with us will shorten that waiting time Nothing wrong with good bye tears, they are much , much better than sigh of relief that it's finally over.

yes , number changed from 60 to 20

so you have double thrill for less money LOL

don't forget he had good look at you It seems Prince boys a share with those at Hero love of coming to final solution ASAP which may fit some but not everybody. In such a case if boy is likeable / lookable I point to the clock and invite them for 25 minutes of quiet relaxation , hugs, caressing and indecent touching incuded

boy could be fishing you for a best price seeing spark in your eyes , lost this time but they know their game. Not necessarily went with Chinese for the same price. I did not see Indians sitting in bar without ordering but often they just peek and go but I recall post on one of forums of Indian guy complaining that some bar in Sunee wanted him to pay boy's tip up front so it may be something in that reputation.

one can only hope he learned the lesson although I found more effective just to tell them outright that this is too much. Sometimes subtleties are not getting to them. I'm glad you arrived home safely and at the same time sad your adventures are over but as we know and hope there's always next time and it better be soon !.

strong alcohol is known to have bug chasing properties so you may be right and I wouldn't underestimate healing power of Hong Thong whisky as well.

Welcome to the forum I wouldn't worry at all and never saw any hint of discrimination related to ethnicity. Sometimes you see clients not given any attention but this is always because they are known to be lousy tippers. What may work against you is rather age as young people may be considered less affluent. In places like Jupiter where Asians clearly dominate among clients I'd say farangs may expect to be discriminated but never saw or heard anything to support such fear. In short , just go , have fun and don't worry about discrimination, just make sure you have money with you. If you Chinese or looking Chinese just be aware that in bars they have opinion of just looking but rarely offing and at times you can see an exodus when show ends . In massage places though . no such a problem. You will have a fun , that's sure thing.

I guess we all have are small pleasures in life , some just like small being really small

I wish I could say the same, you just too kind

actually I was thinking about this but no, other than tipping him once at Tawan we never even did an eye connection there so for me he is no more Tawan boy than Obama is Indonesian or Schwatzeneger Austrian

change ' slim ' to ' muscular and we are singing the same song

you are just bad boy koko. Thank you for everybody above enlightening me about those medications. By grace of God I never had in Thailand in my 15 trips type of problems they may be useful for. Clearly , daily massage, nightly long time off, making my own strong tea in the room and avoiding fancy restaurants , pigging on Foodland Patpong breakfasts and chicken with cashew nuts at Oasis or Maxis has it's advantages.

it's what vacations are for

forgive my idiocy but what is electrolyte and loperamide and what we may need it for ?.