JackR

I'm on my way home after a few amazing days in Bangkok. Before my trip I read this forum from top to bottom and took copious notes on the Bangkok massage scene, places to go, etc. I took a lot of notes to help me remember for my next visit. I wish I could share therapist names here because they are not all created equal and I ran into some total duds as well as some amazing ones.
 
Here's my take on the massage places:
 
1. S'sense massage - by far my worst experience and the only massage I walked out on in the middle. When I arrived, they did the "bait and switch" and said my therapist was not available but tried to offer me another one who was not my type. I asked for someone else and they gave me one who was cute but a total dud. I laid there bored while the therapist gave me a massage that seemed to focus on the calves and feet FOREVER. Zero fun stuff. I remembered reading on this forum that if you're in that situation, just get up and walk out, and I did just that. I hopped into a Grab (that app is awesome! The way Uber was when it first launched... clean cars great drivers cheap cheap cheap) and went to PARADISE...
 
2. Paradise is on the street with all the gay massage places in Silom 6. Basically by my third day therapists recognized me and told me they saw me walking the street HAHAHAHAHA. Small town. It's clean, friendly, and I had one of my best therapists there... good lord he was huge and ready for action. Not the cutest but again this forum indicated that the cuter they are the less they do and that's usually right based on my experience this week. Did I mention huge? Anyway excellent masssage and double x 2 happiness.
3. Relax Massage - my husband went here, right across from Paradise (he also checked out Mr. Big at Paradise) and had a good massage with a cute guy. They are running a "rainy season special" and are half the price of Paradise. Great value.
4. JeySPA.... you knew this one was coming! This consistently ranks high on this forum so my final day there I splurged (it's definitely spendy with a tip of 1500 baht) ... I was very clear what I was looking for (big everything with six pack abs) and OH MY GOD did they deliver. They sent photos that let me know exactly what I was in for. That was one of my best massages in Bangkok (best massage of the trip was in Samui, but that's a different post...)  Very clean and yes as others have said, horrible traffic in that area so I took a Grab but wished I had taken the train. Easy to find with Google maps. You can negotiate on the room price.
5. Prime - 90 min head/feet and then 90 min Thai by the same guy who was touchy but Prime doesn't seem to go beyond massage and that's fine... it was just amazing. Great massage with great technique, clean, and they give you pajamas (I didn't wear the top) and you just feel like you're being pampered.
6. Green Massage - I wish I had time to go here... looked good and would love to read someone else's feedback
7. 9-Teen - on same road with 2 & 3 above, they did the bait and switch again when I arrived... I rejected their substitution and they found someone suitable, but he started negotiating tip in middle of massage before he would even remove his shirt. That was a HUGE turnoff and I felt like I was in a used car lot all of a sudden. All the other therapists at other places were much more subtle or trusted you to tip the min 1000 baht. My husband ran into the same thing. We did not return here and cancelled subsequent appointments we had made.
8. Natural Spa - super friendly guys and one of my cuter therapists (straight, small assets) worked there then kept in touch on Line but I didn't return due to aforementioned small assets. Room smelled musty and towels weren't fresh smelling. But they do seem to have cuter guys than the others.... I wouldn't rule them out next time but wish their rooms were cleaner. This also seems to be the feedback on Google reviews.
9. Magic Touch Massage with Mr. Tree... this was our first massage in Bangkok and was very mediocre. Shower didn't work and therapist wasn't very skilled in anything. Would not recommend.
Things I learned:
1. This is all really close to the Skytrain. When we first arrived we had some trouble with Google maps and it seemed like we walked all over. Silom 6 is maybe 8 mins from the station and there's lots to see on the way.
2. Great lunch spot in the heart of it all is Mango Tree Surawong. If you're a massage whore like we are,  book 11 am massages, then lunch at Mango, then walk 2 mins to Prime for a real massage, happy finish at Paradise or Relax/Natural Spa.
3. This I haven't figured out but I developed some theories on this. Most guys who weren't that into it I asked if they were straight and yes they were. As a top that provides limited options for me which is why I was going for SIZE and appearance. One guy showed me photos of his girlfriend. They are all really sweet but I wish there were a way to color code the t-shirts... red is top, blue is bottom, purple is both.... I assume the blue shirts would be the gay guys but I may be making an incorrect assumption there. I think next time I'll try to ask for some bottoms even though I don't want to  do anything more than play... see #4 below...
4. These guys have got to be riddled with all sorts of diseases. NO way would I consider anything unsafe, but I was able to have a lot of fun nonetheless. It does seem like most of the clients go there to just get PLOWED because everytime I got on a massage table they went straight for my butt and I had to make the universal sign for no intercourse but just playing. I do not hold any judgment against anyone who wants to take more risks, I am just saying that once I got there and saw the guys and the environment and the steady stream of customers I knew that my shields were going to be up and I would still have fun. AND I DID. (See JeySpa again).
5. I did not go to 15M based on feedback on this forum.
6. The drag (?) cabaret at Asiatique was AMAZING!! Calypso!! We were grinning ear to ear the entire show... if you buy tickets, buy them from their site (not Klook or resellers) and put in comments you are gay and excited to see show. We did that and they gave us the best seats in the house. (Seats are assigned by them earlier in the day, then they print tickets when you arrive)... huge highlight of our visit. It would be fun to see with a group - the audience was all reserved asians for the most parts and there were points where we were the only ones clapping and cheering them on. Those boys were working hard and dancing their asses off.
7. I walked through Silom 4 and loved the drag show there, but felt sort of self conscious as I was dressed for dinner at Vertigo and it was really strange walking the catwalk (street) with all the chairs and tables facing you... I needed someone to show me the ropes. My masseur from Natural Massage offered to come with me but he didn't speak English and I wanted some alone time.
8. Really regret not having time to try The Green Massage.

I hope this helps someone else who may fit our profile (newbie, more conservative, clueless and naive at times, see newbie part). Thanks to all who have posted here offering advice and help… I found it immensely useful as I planned our trip!! 
 
 
 
 

I'm not talking about meeting on Grindr or the apps 
I want to know if any of you have luck meeting guys for sex paid or otherwise in shopping centres, retail stores ,bellboys ,security guards , drivers , etc etc for sex in Thailand!
This is the reason I used to take cards with my Line /WhatsApp number printed to hand out .
The only thing is you  have to be confident enough to approach and make small talk with guys you like .
In Philippines it worked 85% of the time picking up straight guys ready for paid sex , I got pounded by a gym pt in Cebu ,he was married and had 3 sons and pounded my daddy ass for 2,000 pesos ,I loved it as he made a loud moan as he blew his straight load deep into my asshole .
Then the 

Final reflections
 Best thing about that trip was that it was entirely unplanned and unexpected. Last time I had such fast decision trip to Thailand was back in 2013 , also in May. I found it very energizing waking up in the morning to find out by midnight than in 2 days I’m flying to other end of world.
 That’s advantage of being retired as such feast would be hardly doable in normal 9-5 working conditions.
 Because luggage was free I was hauling more  goodies than usually when I travel just with carry on  and found it bit tiring considering my habit of changing hotels every 2-3 nights. Perhaps time to  try more permanent arrangement next time like changing place only once per trip.
 I’m happy I decided to return to butterflying giving every bar  a chance. I’m still warming toward Jupiter and after two visit this trip I’m more than half  way there. It used to be bar I did not like at all so it’s great improvement. Line up on my 1st visit this trip was truly impressive,  as I mentioned I like 100 % of what was on offer.
 My disappointment was unspoken so far in report. Last trip I spotted  some hunk in Thai Relax massage in soi 6 on my last day and he was not available. I hoped to see him this trip but he went home for good according to other boys from that venue.
ST from Tawan was great find of this trip  shining both with personality and body. He probably realized that and was bit costly but I liked him very much thank you and only can hope he will be there next time. Along with Y from Moonlight and S from HotMale, all offed twice they were my trip heroes.
Masseur N who extracted 5 sessions from me had best chance to be super star but spoiled it a bit by not reading me properly – I don’t like irrelevant or nosy messages like ‘how are you ?’ or “what you are doing now ?” he was bombarding me on Line even if I know there were well meaning and supposed to show he cares. It’s funny situation as I like guy a lot and his massage was by far the best I had in a few trips and in the room he performed as I liked plus plus,  I still had moments I was mad at him. And this is actually not funny.
Overall Line is great tool to hook up and communicate with guys but sometimes I wonder if it’s really worth of trouble to give boys my Line because of such case of abuse so to speak. On another hand it was life saver when due to holiday bars were closed but I managed to utilize my contacts and pull it as best day of the whole trip.
 Tawan with Banana in second place continue to be most friendly bars as far as I see even if Tawan boys are trying to abuse my wallet but at least they do it good natured way and understand word NO without any grimaces .
 As for massage Jey Spa continues to be my post Covid massage central and both guys I had there were gold standard how session and masseur  should look like . Not for first time I noticed that with price service standard goes up which theoretically it’s how it’s supposed to be but we all know it’s far from reality.
 I was concerned I’m losing thing for Thai boys with few voluntary empty nights which almost never happened before,  but now , with cold head I see that perhaps it’s bit of natural. After overheating cool down time should come. If I don’t feel like having companion why should I torment myself with looking for one ?
 Two boys pissed me off , one by not showing and another one by asking for dink and leaving me promptly which was more painful due to fact we had common history with either one. My revenge was simply to skip off this trip and tell them why. At least one confirmed that he got the message.
Prices are going up. I’m not taking vacations to save money as staying home does better job but had few sticker shocks – 1000 off fee at BoyzBoyZBoyz, 900 massage fee at Tawan, 6000 long time request from Tawan Boy( declined). I think time will come when some haggling will be in order.
I praise myself for idea of breaking my trip by going to Kuala Lumpur and I’m eternally grateful to my local friend there for being my guide and companion.
 Finally heartfelt thank you to reader, Anddy, Jason 1975 and ChristianPFC for all those meals  and bar visits together.
 Due to family and my personal issues timing of my next trip is unknown but working on it. Brutal truth is , whatever plans I may make they may be ruined at the short notice. Ever optimist I hope for at least one more this year or early next one.

Day 17 , continued
  About 1 hr later ST Lined me he is about to arrive so I went down to the street level to see him arriving in style on motorsai smiling broadly. We decided to eat something , across the soi from hotel is small Thai eatery serving simple but tasty and cheap dishes so we feasted there for 160 for two oft drinks included.
 Then to the room where I made sure I was compensated for empty night and what is even more important ST made it even more sure I was happy. At one point when I complemented his built with sinister motive to allow me to take picture ( no I will not post it here nor will send it by PM ) of his well attended to body he said something I never heard before from guy  “ I take care about my body so you can enjoy it” , wow ! I enjoyed it indeed, more than expected . It was really great 3 hours.
It did not come cheap but it was worth  every penny I gave him and  what I spent on him bit later. His shoes were quite worn off. Not sure it was staged or really he did not have anything better but when he noticed I noticed their shabby state he asked if I can buy him new pair. What a smart guy ! But as my godmother used to say “it’s better to lose something with smart than find something with stupid”.
So plot or not , I agreed although placed silent limit of 2000 on such largesse.  We went to Silom Center as I told him my time is limited and in Central there were sport shoes on sale. After trying few pairs he settled on some Adidases  for 2160, I told him I can give only 2000 , he agreed to fork out that 160 extra which of course I reimbursed  him back as we were leaving mall. So I spend quite a bit on two session with ST  but on this trip I had few excellent encounters and both with him were ones I suspect I will remember well still in few years.
 Happy but still smarting after that failed night I had one more shining star in mind. But first things first, I returned to the room and packed as much as I could before returning to boy hunting. Since today is Thursday , schnitzel special at G’Bangkok it’s where I went. Lined reader about my plans and he  joined me on that Thailand’s last supper.
Both Banana’s barkers welcomed me enthusiastically as always so I practiced my vinapu tuck on them shamelessly in front of their bar, told them I’m leaving tonight and one who I have some hots for whispered  me something which makes me wanting to return to Thailand  before end of this century or even this year , if only to check if it’s true.
Then reader went his way and I marched to Hot Male hoping S will be there. He heard my voice talking to P the host and appeared in bar’s door .Action was fast, let’s go. I told him, 2 hrs only so no dinner but bough him something  to eat at 7/11 and he made sure  my last session of this sudden , unexpected and unplanned trip was as great as all our previous meetings.
2000 baht later he left , I finished packing , freshen up for long trip home only to see it time to go because both shaving cream and tooth paste jut run out.
 At 11.30 I was on the street and taxi just showed up around the corner. 500 no meter he said. No , meter is 300 so I give you 400 said I . No,  450   said he. No 400 I insisted , Ok, ok said him and in few seconds I was on my way. At the Swampy I gave him that 450, still happy with such fruitful day.
 All went smooth and at 2.30 we rolled out of gate as scheduled
 I was wailing over wasted last night but I wondered if it was actually good idea to have  good night sleep before such long trek. I almost never sleep on the plane  but this time I did, at least 4 continuous hours out of 7 to Doha and probably it would be longer if they did not wake me up for breakfast which I did not want to eat anyways.
Three hours there was enough to survey airport which I liked a lot , specially that park in the middle of terminal.
 


On second leg I also slept few hours so when finally after 30 hours and 55 minutes from closing door at hotel I opened my own,  I was surprisingly fresh. Enough that I made post-trip laundry before retiring to own bed.
Summary tomorrow and then I shut up

Day 16
 When we checked time in the morning it was already 9.30 am . Since I expected Christian PFC with taxi at 11 am I told N we are skipping breakfast, tipped him for his troubles , we freshened up showering together ,  he left and I start packing. Good thing those fruits I bought yesterday by TukCom, they made for very healthy and tasty  breakfast.
Another advantage of Classrooms is that some items they charge for like toiletries including condoms and lube, minibar items like beer or cola carry little mark up  so if your guest will drink beer or water it will not ruin you . I had about 160 invoice for those I settled when leaving as both gentlemen were on the dot.
We arrived in BKK very fast , at 1 pm I was already on reception at Furama Sathorn , another of my few favorite digs. This time I was not upgraded (last 2 times I was without even asking) but room was big and comfortable enough with kitchenette but no couch.
 Not having breakfast I was bit hungry so went to Charoen Krung soi 49 to have their pizza for the last time this trip. From there by bus to Silom and straight to soi 6 to have massage with N. It’s against advices saying massage first , food after but today it worked well. Great boy and great massage , if only he wouldn’t be so prolific sending Line messages with speed of machine gun.
He had small complain saying I promised him 5 nights and we had only 3 so far which came out of blue. While I don’t mind 5 nights I wouldn’t  make such specific promise so nice try I thought.
 At 9 pm we arranged small gathering of forum members  present in Bangkok -  reader , anddy , Jason 1975 and me had dinner at G’Bangkok together and lively conversation subject of which you can easily guess. As I said before  I have hots for one of Banana barkers across and today it was sign that he started noticing it. Longest trip starts from the first step.
Bit too late as tonight is my last night this trip and for some reason , never shy , somehow I’m shy approaching him. Even I laugh at myself thinking about that. I think it’s because I like him more for personality than physical attributes so it’s like bit different kind of attractiveness. Or may be because I saw him with girl few times and I’m afraid of failure. Anyways we had a bit of remote fun across the soi.
Jason suggested we will help him to finish bottle he had opened in Jupiter another day so we decided to go there, only reader had another plans and it was our trio which went there.
 We  watched  all three boy parades, first in briefs , second in boxers and last one in jeans but with numbers  , invited few boys to seat with us. If was funny to see contrast, when they do their walkabout their faces are  frozen and disinterested but as soon as they seat  with us , all were friendly, behaving normally  and  somewhat clingy. One I invited even asked me to help him with drinks as Jason organized some card game with losers required to drink half shot. He seemed  even interested but for some reason I was not in the offing mood there. Anddy was even bit surprised I’m so reluctant but somehow I was.
 Left empty handed , I went to Hot Male but at that time their selection was very limited and none of guys appealed to me so I circled area once or twice, looked again at Banana barker busy inviting passerby’s to his bar and decided to call night off. Lonely , alone  and just me .
 Not for lack of choices as I’m sure I could get somebody at Tawan or  Moonlight or line one of few I  have contact with but somewhat I did not feel tonight like I want to . Honestly. Am I turning lesbian? Or straight ?   Ot bored with all that debaucheries? Or saturated with fun I had so far ? May be I’m coming there too often ? Or January  Cambodian fiasco still subconsciously lingers somewhere in my head and heart and from time to  time emerges ? Or am I losing it?
Or perhaps getting bored and impatient with some of boys antics, chiefly nagging me ‘when I see you again ? ’ ‘can we have massage today ?’ No idea but those were questions going through my head when walking alone via completely darkened soi 5 , one where market is in day time and which comes across from Furama at other end. So it’s day 16 and night 16 but 5 of them in cold bed. Never before.  I used to have empty night once per 5 trips but is it true such world came to an end?
 Ok I made it sounding bit dramatic for better reading and perhaps even discussion but cold fact is : on my last night on the trip I’m sleeping alone and truth to be said I’m not really making much of it. It is what it is . And I slept well

Day 13
 None of us was in rush but we went for breakfast downstairs (not included in rate, 240 but quite opulent ) and after that we returned to the room for some more intimacies. I don’t recall whose idea that was but not even necessarily mine. I was happy with him, he was happy with tip.
 We actually had some homework to do too as after  tattoo application yesterday  some of his skin peeled off leaving a lot of black ( from ink)  skin confetti. But we did good job. At 11 kissed Y good bye , packed , checked out and at noon Christian PFC arrived with  taxi driver he arranged and we went to Pattaya.
 I always thought taking taxi there is excessive spending but recently become keen on it. Yes it cost about 6 times more (1200 )  than taking bus (130+ BTS+ARL ) would but saves half time, like 2 hrs. When vacation time is short every hour counts. Bonus was we had more time to chat , even stopped at some  roadside restaurant for quite tasty and cheap lunch (255 for three , drinks included).
 In Pattaya they dropped me at Classrooms hotel. Along with Zing Resort and Copa my favorite in Pattaya. I tend to alternate my Pattaya stays between Jomtien and Boyztown.
 I extolled virtues of Classrooms before but I repeat , I like their spacious rooms and very discreet side entry bypassing not only reception but also bar downstairs. That’s hotel where both boy’s and girl’s lovers feel at home and won’t bother each other.
Then went for a stroll along Beach Road only to get my heart bleeding because Alt Heidelberg, my favorite restaurant was gutted undergoing extensive renovation and I don’t have any hope it will be back in business. To get my fix of schnitzel I went to Das Berliner instead but while tasty , it’s not the same there.
After dinner walk was to Walking Street which is back in business but now quite diversified. A lot of stores selling this or that, plenty restaurants and girl clubs here and there. It sadly looks that converting Pattaya to family destination already started , step by step, store by store. By 2117 process should be completed I guess and then punters  will be left with soi 6  and TreeTown bars.
After I did tourist part , at 8 pm I parked myself at Castro with an eye for BBB, That’s my routine in Boyztown, always first evening that ritual. After a while, Lek, the mamasan spotted me and greeted with smile so I went to shake hands. He remembered I like Handsome Cambodian (HC) and surprised me telling me he is there. After I offed him in Feb I never heard from him , neither few of my friends who know him as well.  
 We were wondering what happened to him and I was happy to see he is back. Indeed , several minutes later he appeared on their porch but he  did not notice me so for now I left things as they are.
 About time for show to start I went inside and was surprised to find bar completely full. Full was also stage and it was very disappointing as all boys were completely dressed, t-shirt and jeans, no numbers and only 3 bare chested . I proudly noticed that all three are boys I offed in the past , in fact Art and HC quite a few times. All in all there were 6 familiar faces and they all recognized me smiling , HC being last one. He was as surprised as I was hour ago and when I motioned he joined me immediately. We have  a bit of history , good and bad but if I have weak spot for anybody it’s him.
Sometimes I need it , like today when he gulped 3 rounds of beer (boy drink is 350, mine 400 ) without even asking me if I’m Ok with that.
 Of course I will be offing him but when came to paying bill I was surprised twice, first I was charged for  5 drinks but we consumed 4, second off fee turned out whopping 1000 baht , the same like models at Moonlight. That’s excessive greed. I refused  to pay for that extra drink so they reduced bill by 350, gnashed my teeth and paid the rest.
I should mention show but it was more or less the same like always with BBoys being stars, they even dragged one girl from audience to funny number of simulated sex. She was performing admirably , lucky girl with all those hunks. A lot of screaming and noise  but this is when there are so many girls in audience.
 After show we went to the room , actually our first off was to the same hotel. Then he wanted me to go separately , now he did not mind to walk along. How times changed I reflected.
I was happy, was he too? I guess so. Deep in the night there was that endearing moment when he really become very clingy and cuddled to me like finally he realized that if I like him , he should at least skillfully pretend he does like  me as well. It was quite nice and I must say romantic.
 

Day 12
Very pleasant night but lacking fireworks and excessive sweat. This is what happened when both boy and I know each other well from multiple offs in the past. Novelty value is rubbing off a bit but on another hand there’s confidence that all will go well and no nasty surprises like 4 am request ‘ can I go home now, my motorsai parked wrong place ?”.
Leisurely morning but we made it for breakfast. And I ate plenty to make up for hasty breakfast yesterday.
 Since check out time is 11 I packed my goodies, checked out , took tuk-tuk to my next dig , Le Siam on Convent one of my holy quadruple of hotels in Siam area I like to stay, Raya, Baan Silom and Furama Sathorn being other three.
Room was already available which was good news as I could Line ST whose butt so impressed me yesterday in Tawan to show up at 2. Our agreement made earlier was I let him know when. That was whole hell of short time I must say. Not only he did his best to make sure I’m happy but also told me a lot about his life and passions and let me tell you , those were not boring stories. How stories by the naked hunk can even get boring?.
 No way this could be only short time so I suggested an extension of time  , he suggested   extension of tip and thus it was longest short time I ever had at 6 hrs. No way that after such time two men won’t get hungry and he suggested shabu at MBK. Not being fan of Japanese food I did not even know what shabu is but decided to try. Modestly he suggested we go by BTS.
It was all you can eat  for 499 and certainly food they had was great for bodybuilder , all lean meat no fattening pastas etc. For me it was tastier than expected although as I say, not my type of food. Certainly at home the same would cost me 3 times more.  Walking back to the station he spotted sales in sport store eyeing some brand name exercise  shorts reduced 70%. In my eyes even reduced price was twice too much (520 ) but what do I know?
 So I said yes  but you should try first. So we crowded  into one booth for measurement and short moment of innocent fun. I gave him money there so he could pay himself , just a bit face saving exercise.
What surprised me was how happy he was . Casually throwing 100 or 200 we forget that for a lot of those guys 500 is princely sum, specially to be spent on non-essentials like that so we returned to Silom  both happy, he with his acquisition and me seeing him happy.
Today is religious holiday so no alcohol sales. Having a bit of time  I made tour of the area to see if bars are opened as theoretically they could as long as no alcohol was offered but it looked all bars decided to close , my guess was to avoid pesky boys in brown with palms outstretched.
  In soi 4 only Adam massage and G’Bangkok were opened , everything else was in dark. Very few diners at G'Bangkok though. The same in Patpong , all closed , Moonlight the same and so was Tawan but Dum who is also  motorsai driver was on his post on the corner so I gave him 100 baht to buy himself some meal.
I was timing myself as my post-birthday festivities were not completed. I made sure at 10pm I’m in my room as I was expecting Y and indeed at 10 on the dot my phone chimed, it was Line message “I’m downstairs “ so I went to pick him up . But he was bit hungry so gave him 100 to buy something-on Convent there’s always some street food available. Soon after he showed up with some dish, gave me even change from that 100 and up we went for another super session today.
 Two guys today , both trying their best to make sure I’m happy. It did not come cheap but I like money well spent better than  cheap price tags and that was a case on that fabulous holiday day.
 

Day 11
 I must be turning lesbian, men loving lesbian but still lesbian because I start liking my boy less nights. Slept very well till 8 and did not rush for breakfast,   only to run in panic as they close at 10 and I made it at 9.55. Still managed to feed myself well.
  Then went to top floor to marvel at Bangkok from moving platform. Nice breeze there. While Mahanakhon  is more exciting due to glass,  for view I think I like Bayioke better as it’s more central.
After that I’m taking it easy because today it’s my birthday so I made myself busy thanking all well wishers on Line, e-mail and What’s Up. I quite liked that lazy , no pressure day. But at 2 I decided not to waste day completely and went to Saphan Kwai with intention to make survey of massage shops there.
By the station there are at least 3 : G’Beat, KMan and 15M but my survey today was   along Suthisan Rd. Coming from BTS  there is One Spa across gas station and on the same side of street 27 M. On opposite side there are BT HOUSE, KK SPA and Home Spa. Home Spa  is just before highway crosses street if you are taking bus.
So I stopped at Home , 1hr 500 baht min tip 1000, only two boys available immediately so I opted for one I recognized face from their Line feed. Fees are less than half of one needs to pay at Jey. But twink lover would do better than me who is rather into hunks. Boy was working hard but there was no spark from my side for that reason so I was glad when 1 hr was over and likely so was boy although we had some fun but it was more routine. I think it was my fault so don’t get me wrong.
 Being there I decided to try one more, stopped at BT house but they were  all boked with no room available according to guy on reception, He gave me aprox.  waiting time of ½ hr.  so I decided to go somewhere else and stopped at One. Again only two boys available , both hunks . One of them volunteered to explain process in quite good English so I opted for him. That was good idea. Good massage, my type of guy and quite a conversationalist, at around 40 min. he expressed wish to marry me and go with me to my country. That was fast! But before we settled on pre-nuptials 1 hr passed and session was over but fun it was. Cost and tip the same like at Home but I gave him 200 extra for lawyer drawing those pre-nuptials. I enjoyed it there.
Upon return to hotel Guardian Angel steered me to alight at Phaya Thai and take 1 stop of  ARL from there. It’s short walk to hotel  from the station but I found the gem on main street, just past railway crossing. Ordinary Thai restaurant , with half tables in the open and half behind the door. I opted for that section because AC  and ordered my customary chicken with cashews. Probably second best I had with only Oasis on Suriwong when they were there doing it even better.  Old truth that restaurant ambiance has nothing to do with quality of food it serves was mightily confirmed.
Quite an unexpected  treat for my birthday. I went to hotel to freshen up and pick up some money deciding today Tawan will be my bar of choice. Hunks and most friendly bar, what else I may want.
Taxi handily unloaded somebody in front of hotel and agreed to take me to Silom, it was about 80 baht, the same I paid for motorsai yesterday. Alighting I got message from anddy that he is dining at Gbangkok so went there to shake hands – I was full after that fabulous chicken but anddy generously offered me birthday drink so I stopped there  for longer chat with him and restaurant owner.
Then I went to Tawan as always greeted enthusiastically. Good hour before show bar was already filed . I was not only farang . in pure view I had had another one sitting with one of their boys and both were quite progressive in their behavior. Unfortunately later on farang left leaving some tip in guys’ hands so no off.
Not being just anybody there had benefits as quite fast they organized some table space so I had no less than 4 guys sitting with me including one veteran, surprisingly clingy today, Mas my favorite twink there and new acquisition ST, very handsome,  also not exactly teenager,  with butt of gold. He told  me he is there only few weeks and his brother used to work there.
 Turned out I know that brother very well in his days and even nominated  him to be best boy of my Dec 2015 trip. Getting his Line proved great acquisition. One guy was missing from the crowd, multiple offed K , all because of fairness. Right in the beginning I told him I’m offing him tonight as my birthday boy so I thought fair that other boys will get their drinks and tips. I was in the mood so not only my companions and all 3 performers but also ‘special ‘ show participants and j/o show competitors got theirs not to mention 1 or 2 for newly acquired twinks. Spending like drunken sailor at least I remained sober , chiefly because of pleasure of caressing gently and secretly  that butt of gold.
After show I jumped on K’s new shiny motorcycle , no doubt fruit of all those ‘ no customers tonight’ nights and we went to Happy Beer Garden where his cousin is waitressing while being only person in whole world allowed to call me ‘ my daddy”.
 At least return to hotel was free and we could start celebrating birthday in style, K and I.
Only disappointment this year was that hotel did not present me birthday cake like they did last year. I wonder if that was change of policy or result of opting for cheaper room where such treats don’t apply

Day 10
 Y wanted to go home so I went or rather should say flew on cloud 7 to World Famous for a breakfast. What I was thinking I don’t know or rather know, how great last night was , at least to me. Then went to ATM to withdrew some money and returned to hotel with a loot.
 By the way,  machine refused to spit out 25000 , message came that maximum number of banknotes to be withdrawn is 25. So I assumed ATM run out of 1000 notes, as it refused 24000 either. I settled on 20000 and indeed in the pack there were few 500”s
In hotel  I wanted to do some calculations , reached for the phone and it was not there. Since I did not use it in the bank it must be Foodland so I kind of sprinted there.  I, opposite to almost everybody else,  can travel without the phone although those days it almost become impossible , I don’t bank on it but losing contacts,  specially Line ones would be nasty. So I hoped it will be there.
On approach I already knew it is as one of waitresses seeing me motioned . They made me  sign in some  notebook I received it .  I left 200 tip and started to celebrate reunion. It pays to be known there and seat usually at the same table so they must have notice right away.
Today I’m changing hotels and moving to Bayioke Sky. Every trip I like to treat myself with something bit better for 2-3 nights just to know how better half is spending their vacations. I get there in Bangkok style i.e. by tuk-tuk, chiefly because this time I’m travelling with bit bigger luggage for simply reason- it was included in price so I thought, why not ?
 Most weight were 6  books I took with me hoping to read them but it turned out I managed to finish only 3. Biggest suitcase allowed me to stock up on coffee and certain soaps I always buy in Thailand.
Thing I like about Bayioke is that view is guaranteed as lowest floor is 19th and guests have free access to viewing platform on the top. Hotel is not teenager exactly and is bit worn off but rooms are big and bathroom  was for sure at least of the same size like my whole room in Ibis Styles where I stay in Feb. so no claustrophobic feeling at all.
Room was not ready , their check in and check out hours are bit different , check-out by 11, check in from 2, typical for hotels with plenty of  organized tours. So I left luggage , Lined Jey Spa if they can bring Maii2 for 2.30. As always response was almost immediate. I still had some time so wandered through the area which is not exactly shiny in comparison to Silom or Sukhumvit but certainly lively and safe.
Then had nice walk to Nana Station , from there BTS to Phrom Phong and walk to soi 43 to arrive just on time  as receptionist told me my boy just arrived too. We met  twice in Jan and he remembered me greeting me with prolonged hug. After great night, great day too. Very enjoyable session . Did not come cheap, 1250 for VIP room for 1.50hr, minimum  tip 1800 but I upped to 2200 just to let Maii know  I was happy.
Jey Spa continues to shine, first Noom , now Maii certainly worth the time to get there and expense.
 As a bonus Maii dropped me  at BTS station but because it was rush hour I made sure I behaved  as passenger without any questionable moves.
 In hotel room was waiting for me , this time on 58 floor only , probably 10 floors down compare to last year at the same time and it was normal window, not panoramic glass but that’s the price for picking up cheaper option.
 In the evening dinner with anddy in G’Bangkok . Motorsai for 80 baht . At restaurant I utilized their Tursday schnitzel special again. Hugs with both barkers at Banana, I have hots for one of them , I think I mentioned it already, but I’m too shy to approach him for more than hug and vinapu tuck . Slowly, slowly but surely, there’s still future.
Then we decided to check on HotMale but after 11 a lots of guys were already taken including all I’d consider. This deflated me  a bit and after making rounds through the area I decided to return home empty handed to my eternal shame. Me sleeping alone in Thailand ? Shot me on the spot !
Not that I did not have option as masseur N is bombarding me with questions when we meet again and I don’t think he is helping his case. Sweet boy  but not feeling me way Y, S or both Jay Spa masseurs do. Last message rung at 2 am so I advised him to go to bed and applied that advice to myself as well for few moments regretting my phone this morning was not lost for good.    

Day 9
 N sleeps in his shop. Because of that,  3 days a week  he is cleaning it before opening and after closing which I consider very fair. That was reason he could come only at 1 but I did not mind, we still had good , largely sleepless night. Left at 6  to take care about the shop so I returned to warmed bed  to get some sleep.
At 9 marched to Foodland, heart bleeding becauseby 5 minutes  I missed  time when breakfast is whopping 10 baht cheaper, then to XOne to exchange money and to Silom market in soi 10 to buy charger as I left mine in hotel in Kuala Lumpur, one of senior moments I guess because I’m not exactly known  for  leaving my stuff behind.
Silom market as market go is very modest affair but yet in my every hour of need , be it charger , coat hangers, baseball hat, undies, t-shirt , pen , day pack , you name it ,I go there and find what I need , usually for very little.
I spotted one of Jupiter mamasans manning  one of the stands.
In hotel no water again but power was so I made a coffee and then took BTS to Madrid for lunch with Christian PFC.  Always interesting chat over tasty pizza, we have our ritual and share whatever we ordered half / half with each other.
 We walked back , I was mindful that I have to meet  P from Hot Male at 3 to check stamp collection so made sure I’m there , in still empty soi on time. No sight of him , nor even answer to my Lines so at 3.30 I left empty handed. Reader reported that he will be drinking coffee at Coffee Grinder at 5 if I want to join so I used that occasion to complain, his answer was very reasonable P obviously is not in  a need of money. Good for P  thought I.
Just before 5 I got message from him “ sorry I slept in”. Too late obviously as I had other designs this afternoon.
Reader and I exchanged news while tasting their coffee and first and foremost admiring their cheerful and handsome staff. I even get bonus when boys were readying to leave at they close at 6 one of them changed  shirt to reveal torso worth 2750 baht short time in process.
This trip I decided firmly to return to old butterflying days, did not work exactly as intended with few repats anyways but at least I tried and liked it. Today I scheduled last bar I did not visit yet- Dreamboys so around 9 went there.
  Several boys on the stage already , among them Fai, very good masseur  I know from Arena so called him for drink, shortly his brother Dit arrived to wing me from other side. But I was in no mood to hire from there.  What I saw was discouraging. Out of 3 rotation about 12 each so total 30-40 guys I’d remotely consider 3 and only # 11 looked truly attractive earning red not as I departed.
 A lot of veterans of soi Twilight which says something. Ggobkk who visited few day earlier had exactly the same impression but on another hand Jason 1975 who went there few days after me completely disagreed. So either I had bad luck or he had good one or there’s fundamental difference in taste. As I said somewhere else and tend to repeat constantly -  go and check for yourself , my throwaway may be your treasure and other way around.
 Tipped both brothers 200 for their time and old times sake  and decided to have another try at Moonlight I visited last week. With all bars covered time for 2nd round.
I was hoping to see Y , who impressed me on my last night in Feb and yes , he was on the stage. No time was wasted to bring him over for a drink and before his was delivered , night’s fate was sealed.
A,  the hunk spotted me as well so I invited him for drink too , if only to tell him that I did not like last week  when he abandoned me from another customer.
 This time he did not go anywhere  until his drink was finished . So I used that to try to wrestle him a bit which we always do  , he always wins but my ego is still boosted because I manage to resist for  a bit. He made suggestion we repeat Feb feast with Y and him together but I said that for me it’s twice expense for half fun so he gave up trying.  
In models parade I noticed few new faces, Jack who appeared very nervous last week seems settled now but for now Mean seem to be my #1. I also noticed I’m warming up to Babe, perhaps because now he is not one to close parade as he always did , now he is one of many.
I did not see Nut last time neither during parade today but at one point he showed up, came to say hallo, admitted casually he is late and way he was dressed made me suspect that he must be in good hands now. Very formal and elegant at the same time so I’m happy for him he found his girl or man, whoever. Another one not present was Nicky, neither last week nor today but time I was in love with him is long gone.
I’m glad they are trying to refresh their models  stable  as old faces and bodies , while still attractive are becoming bit stale so new blood is needed. On another hand I must admit original set was of really outstanding quality,  real hunky hunks while never crew is somewhat mixed which is not necessarily wrong as not everybody likes that type.
 At one point I start getting itchy so tipped A and  marched with Y to hotel by the way of Unesco Heritage. Y turned endearingly modest when comes to food as Foodland was his idea and he chosen some ordinary dish like pad Thai. Not that modest when came to LT tip but absolutely and positively did his best to earn it. One of those few precious who feel immediately what and when customer wants. By far best night of this trip. I was so excited and happy that I almost pay dearly for all that fun but that’s the story for next installment .
 

Day 8
 As they say, time to say goodbye. Breakfast, again I was only farang looking guest there.
Fast packing as most of my goodies are still in Baan Silom, monorel to KL Sentral and airport express from there.
 Air Asia did not gave me a chance to select a seat for  free and system assigned me middle one but by grace of God other two seats in my row were nor assigned so I had 3 seats for myself , too bad it was only 2.hr15 mins flight.
 In Don Muang very fast , no immigration line whatsoever. Going to the train I heard my name all of the sudden. One of guys from former Bangkok Massage whose brother I offed at least 10 times was waiting for somebody and recognized me. Not in business any more , scuba dive instructor now.
Another proof that world is small.
 In coupon restaurant on the way to station I treated myself with duck on the rice for 65 baht, my usual treat when in DMK and  1 hr later I returned to Baan Silom to learn that I was assigned the same room, not that I care as anyone would do.
 At 7 I was supposed to meet another member ggobkk who was gracious enough to find some time for meeting on day of his return home. It was about to rain so I decided to go to GBangkok bit
earlier  , great idea as it started raining at 7 on the dot. My friend arrived  with big umbrella but soon rain stopped,   After chat and dinner and more chat we decided to go to Screwboys, first visit for both of us after reopening.
 Mamasan recognized us immediately, they did not really opened yet but she ordered few guys to the stage, few were OK and # 26 got tips for good looks from both of us. She also remembered that my best boy ever, One was from there and showed me his pictures, serious man in mid thirties now , father of 3 but still I recall him vividly . Muscular hunk who knew very well what his clients want and delivered. But it was in 2015 and after that he disapeared from the scene  for good.
 100 baht for her to keep that memory  fresh forever, then after a while ggobkk went to his hotel to get ready for his trip and I went to jeweler on Thaniya to exchange some money.  Then to Hot male beer bar to have drinks with boys and asked P to be there tomorrow at 3 so we can assess my new stamp acquisition. Then climbed  stairs to Freshboys to watch the show and tip the best looking guy as usual. By sheer coincidence he had number #26 as well .
He would be my candidate for an off but over Line I already promised N, the masseur,  that we sleep together tonight so went home so to speak empty handed.
On my way I met on Silom  his workmate who assured me that N will be there after he closes shop at 1 as today was his turn about which I was aware already.

Friday (Day 13) - Karaoke night with three Hotmale Beer Bar downstairs staff and fellow forum member. Found out that Happy Beer Garden has karaoke room at back. It charges 200 baht per hour. Manageress saw our group and knew that we would be ordering food and beer and she gave us a special rate of 500 baht for room for whole night. We didn't sing for the whole night but were there from 8pm to 1am which was 5 hours. Had to stop at 1am because some of the guys were half drunk. I think about 20 bottles of Lao beer consumed. Fellow forum member and I were pleasantly surprised by how much the guys love to sing. We found out that Myanmese and Laos music are so interesting. Most are slow and folksy in nature but there are some fast songs with guitar solos. There was one song about Pakse - which was a city in Laos and the hometown of one of the guys. There's even a gay Myanmar pop song! Fellow forum member and I saw the music video which had ladies dancing and a guy singing and we didn't know what's so gay about it but maybe it's in the lyrics, which we of course didn't understand. Overall a pleasant change from the typical night at bar.

Wednesday (Day 11) - Wasn't planned but day went similar to Tuesday. Day was spent at Coffee Grinder with fellow forum member from 12pm to 2pm followed by chilling in hotel room. Night was spent at Jupiter as fellow forum member wanted to meet Laos handsome hunk who was working tonight. Unfortunately there was little chemistry so fellow forum member went instead with another Jupiter guy (handsome smooth Thai).
Before going to Jupiter, I hung around at Hotmale Beer Bar downstairs. Saw staff receiving message on phone, then change out of uniform to go to Sukumvit to meet customer. Very popular fella. I also bumped into the owners of Coffee Grinder who were with their two French friends visiting Bangkok and showing them around the nightlife.
ln addition, I squeezed in a quick pop-in at Banana Bar. Banana Bar has the earliest show among all bars. Show started at 9.30am while most bars would only start their show at 10.30pm.
Since I already reported on the shows at Jupiter and Banana Bar, I won't repeat them. But I will share this hilarious quote from bar tender of Hotmale Beer Bar downstairs - "I am very open. I have open friendships and open relationships. Open friendships means we are friends but no sex. Open relationships means we are friends and we have sex."
 
 
 

Tuesday (Day 10) - Spent close to 4 hours chatting to fellow forum members at Coffee Grinder Silom from 11am to 3pm. It opens early at 9am. The owners, who went out to the bars (Balcony, Tawan, Banana) the previous night, hardly had time to sleep. They were back only at 4am and they had to start baking at 7.30am.
Nice gay friendly place to hang out and the three local male staff are also yummy eye candy. Throughout my 4 hours in the cafe, I observed different types of customers from curious tourists to local office workers who dropped by after lunch. On the topic of lunch, I made observation that some of the male massage shops in Soi 6 opened at 11am and one fellow forum member explained that there were local customers who go for massages during their lunch break!
I went back to hotel for afternoon nap. Met fellow forum member at 9pm for dinner at Circus at Soi 4 before we entered Jupiter. Given front row left aisle seats. About 25 Jupiter guys. Not as many customers tonight but there was one big spending trio of Chinese tourists consisting two ladies and a guy at VIP sofa table.
After the show and 3rd model walk, the singers came on and the VIP customers really went wild. They were hopping up and down half drunk surrounded by Jupiter guys. They started dishing out 100 baht tips to models, mamasans, waiters and singers. The other table with bottle service was Yours Truly here. We had six Jupiter guys with us and while our table was not as wild and crazy as big tip VIPs, we had an equally fun time. Fellow forum member who was with me did the @vinapu tuck many many many times. At 12.30am, we left, happy and with memories of another unforgettable night.

Monday (Day 9) - At famous forum member's suggestion/insistence, I visited Tawan. Before that, I met another fellow forum member who had just arrived in Bangkok. We had dinner, walked up and down Soi 4, said hi to Hotmale beer bar downstairs staff and ended up at Tawan for 10.30pm show which started at 10.45pm.
About 20 customers including an Asian lady with her two Asian male friends. She was squeamish when the Tawan guys with big cocks went around customers for tips. But other customers were old timers, including owners of Coffee Grndr who were there showing a friend around. About 25 Tawan guys and it was a cramped affair because they are all so big sized and take up space! Two Tawan guys were actually playing chess on one of their phones. They finished their game when more customers came in for the show. I would not mind offing one of them just to play chess!
Show started with 3 ladyboy diva lip synching performances then it was all Tawan guys all the way - big cocks, fuck show, SM show (curtain at stage opens up to reveal a wall showing SM tools and equipment!). Finale was 2 Tawan guys jerking off while a bucket was being passed around for tips. First Tawan guy to cum (and he really let out a spray!) took the bucket of tips. Runner up couldn't cum in the end but he still got some tips.
Tawan guys remembered fellow forum member and me from jockstrap night last year. I got to know two of them better. One is half African and half Thai and speaks in a low sexy American accent while the other has a Tiktok account showing his gym routine! Both are classic bodybuilder types and my fellow forum member's favourite.
4 twinks by Tawan standard but I would describe them as average next door types going by the standard of other gogo bars. Fellow forum member knew that I had been eyeing twink with glasses and he asked twink to sit and keep me company for the rest of the night.
Entry to Tawan is 500 baht payable at entrance. Drinks for guys is 400 baht.

Sunday ( Day 8 ) - Moonlight was choice of venue to visit. 450 baht entry for one drink. Payment at entrance. I paid with a 1000-baht note and the staff returned 550 baht in the form of prepared neatly folded 50 baht and 100 baht notes. Very clever and thoughtful way for customer to be ready with 100 baht notes to give tips inside the bar.
About 30 customers for 10.30pm show. Group of 6 Koreans had a bottle of whisky to share drinks among themselves. Front row had two pairs consisting of farang customers and their Asian guys (from other bars) and also one pair of Asian customers in 50s whom I saw at Hotmale the previous night. At back seats, there was one pair of European male customers and 3 separate small groups of Chinese/Taiwanese customers (about 3 or 4  each) all with individual drinks. Only one other single punter like me - Asian in 60s and seated near me at back. All were here for show and no one invited any guy down from stage for drinks despite mamasans encouragement to cajole us.
About 25 guys in black topless Moonlight T-shirt and black sweat pants on rotation on stage. Red number tags on their pants. Some are really handsome, most are next-door-types who have been dolled up. Not as model-looking as Jupiter but also not as rough as Hotmale and not as old as Dreamboys. I noticed one tall guy previously from Jupiter.
Show started late at 10.45pm. Only 3 Moonlight models performing tonight- Tam, Nut and Mark. Tam had an impressive James Bond performance involving green lasers. Nut and Mark did towel number and there was slight glimpse of their pubes at finale. Nut and Mark also did matador and bull erotic dance. A lipsynching diva ladyboy also performed, alternating with the models. During model presentation after show, Jack and Jar came down with Tam, Nut and Mark. And there was a 6th model - a farang with distinctive tattoos on the entire left side of his body but no tattoo on right side. Muscular body and defined abs. His name was Mr Ryan. Awkward moment when the emcee asked whether anyone wanted to give 1000 baht garlands. Two mamasans went around holding garlands to ask customers. Unresponsive crowd. Finally one Chinese customer passed a mamasan six 100-baht notes to give to each model on stage.
Models did get their tips eventually at last performance - the Boom Shake number where they danced close to customers. Customers freely gave out 100 baht and even 200 baht tips to models when they were up close to them. I think they preferred to pass them the money themselves. However, only 4 models appeared and did the dance - Tam, Nut, Mark and Jar (even though he seemed self-conscious of his dancing). Jack didn't dance and neither did guest model Mr Ryan so no tips for them.
Show ended at 11.45pm. One hour as advertised. Two singers (one male and one female) started singing and the non-model Moonlight guys stood behind them and smiling to customers. I like this format compared to making them just stand and move in rotation like in other gogo bars.
Close to midnight, a group of 3 male and 3 lady young Asian customers came in. They were here to drink only and listen to singers. They ordered bottles of wine and invited two Moonlight guys to drink with them. They left after half an hour and most of the customers had gone by then. I was second last to leave and only a group of 3 Asian customers was left at 12.30am.

I was curious about last Monday's turnout and I asked about it a few days later. It was a public holiday on Monday hence more customers and more Jupiter guys on duty.
But generally Monday to Wednesdays are quiet nights.

Friday (Day 6) - Dinner at G Bangkok with fellow forum member followed by visit to Banana Bar. Surprise find at show - a Russian aerial dancer! (I Googled the term because I know I can't call him a pole dancer!) He did acrobatics using a long rope suspended from ceiling. And he had a fit body to ogle at! Very entertaining and it was another innovative way to bring in the tourist crowds. There was also one solo dance number where the professional dancer danced to K-Pop music, which is the latest in-thing. 
I could see the logic of including such performances to draw in tourist crowd. When a group of tourists (and they are mostly ladies) come into a bar, that's 4 to 5 drinks straightaway.
The rest of the show consisted of ladyboy diva lip synching, some dancing and shower and big cock show. I saw a Laos guy I knew and asked him to sit with me during the show. Bought him a drink (300 baht) and also tipped him afterwards. If only I could take him back to hotel room, I would have done so!
After leaving Banana, fellow forum member and I went to Foodland Patpong where we met his regular (and very handsome) guy. Reminded me of my ex-boyfriend who has gone back to Vietnam permanently.
Overall an enjoyable night. Drinks at Banana are 380 baht.

I wasn't sure whether I wanted to do a trip report initially. I posted my experiences in various bars the past week in individual existing topics but upon reflection, I have decided to combine them so here goes.
My last trip was last December and now I am here for 2 weeks in holiday. Unfortunately, I am staying with family so I only had the first two nights available to bring guys back to hotel room.
Sunday (Day 1) - Arrived at airport at night and only reached hotel at midnight. Thank goodness for Screwboys which is open till late. Guys were in basketball singlets and shorts. I would rather see them in their previously infamous white briefs with blue stripes.
About 15 guys on stage with the rest seated with customers. Party atmosphere with some of the guys dancing to the loud music. Saw a smooth charming twink but I hesitated and he ended up being called over to two German customers who sat next to me. We had some small talk and toasted drinks but inside me, I was cursing myself for not being quicker.
Show started at 12.45am. Lots of ladyboy performances. Only 2 big cock shows and these were not done by Screwboys guys but by freelancers. They came into the bar before their performances, paraded their cocks, earned their tips and quickly moved off.
Show ended at 1.30am and lo and behold, German customers paid up and left. I had expected them to take the twink off. I asked him over to my seat and five minutes later, we were in my hotel room. From Laos. Hardworking fella. After our session, he went to his next job which is at a karaoke bar. He says he only gets back to his room at 7am. Maybe I will ask him to bring me to his karaoke bar one of these nights.
Drinks at 350 baht and off fee 500 baht. I tipped mamasan 100 baht and paid Laos twink 2000 baht for short time session.
Monday (Day 2) - Full house at Jupiter. Mostly Asian customers. Ladies were all seated in front aisle rows. The Jupiter dancers really loved performing for them. In terms of show items, same as last year. No difference. Why change a winning formula after all?
I arrived at 10.15pm at door and told waiter that I would be ordering a bottle of whisky. He led me to a table next to sound system. Not a sofa table but at least a private space and a splendid view of the locker and gym area where the Jupiter guys hang out before they go on stage.
I took a look at drinks menu and ordered one bottle of Johnnie Walker. Mamasan remembered me. "Poppy (the singer) no work tonight. He work Wednesday night." "You come alone? Where your friends?"
Mamasan called over Cambodian handsome model whom I met last December nd whom I had also contacted in advance. He was in red briefs - tonight's attire for first model walk on stage for Jupiter guys. "I have to do model walk 1030. After that, I come to you." No problem, I have all night.
10.30pm - the first model walk started. Quite a number of Jupiter guys working today, easily at least 30. Most Mondays are quiet affairs.
After the first model walk, the show started. Cambodian was with me, now fully dressed. We watched the show until 11.30pm after the second model walk where the Jupiter guys came out in white shorts only. One interesting thing happened. An Asian male and female couple in 30s had come in and they were seated at table next to me. I knew they were from China because they spoke to each other in Mandarin and they spoke to mamasan in English. They were looking for a guy for a threesome. Mamasan called over 8 Jupiter guys to the couple and the lady took some time to pick one tall fair skinned Jupiter guy. All this while, I was sniggering away. I looked at my guy and asked him if he had ever been in a 3some. Cambodian smiled shyly like a schoolboy and shook his head. He need not worry about me asking him for a 3some. I wanted him all to myself tonight.
Still at least 2/3 of Johnnie Walker left. Shall go again another night this week and next week.
Tuesday (Day 3) - I spent first half of evening at Hot Male beer bar downstairs. No lack of customers for the bars in Soi Gay Patpong. In fact many were casual tourists who went inside the bars for the shows.
Hot Male beer bar downstairs remains best spot for people watching as they walk up and down the soi. And of course it's a great spot to perv at the shirtless Dreamboys guys on the balcony. Hot Male beer bar staff are as friendly and chatty as ever.
Freshboys 10.30pm show was well attended - a group of farang tourists comprising one guy and three ladies, a gay Taiwan couple, a big spender with bottle service and two Freshboys guys (who have changed out of Freshboys white shorts) and a mamasan around him and an eclectic Asian group in their 40s/50s (5 men, 3 women). The lead guy was seated with the women and dispensing tips to performers on stage. The other men called down a Freshboys guy to sit with them. Later before second show, two farang ladies came in, with one of them using crutches as her leg was in a cast. She must have heard many good things about the show because she was willing to climb up the narrow stairs to the bar!
As for Freshboys guys, mostly twinks and some twunks. Many familiar faces from last year. Mamasans and waiters also same, including one lanky handsome waiter with a number tag. Show was same as well. Mix of ladyboy lip synching, shower show and big cock show (4 of them). Drinks at 400 baht.
Wednesday (Day 4) - I met some fellow forum members for dinner at G Bangkok. We had a great time chatting about our recent experiences. At the same time, we were ogling a hunky Banana Bar guy standing outside his bar with an umbrella (it was raining for a while).
After dinner, we went to Jupiter. Longtime singer Poppy is back singing. He wasn't there on Monday and in fact, he doesn't sing every night at Jupiter nowadays. Only certain nights.
I had reserved a sofa seat at the back for our entourage. Quiet night. Only 14 guys working tonight - fellow forum member actually meticulously counted them!
In terms of customers, only half full compared to Monday night. Many ladies. There was in fact one group of ladies on 2nd floor looking down like fangirls and they remained there until the show ended. VIP table near the stairs was reserved for 2 very well dressed ladies. Midway during the show, they asked mamasan to arrange some guys to stand in a semicircle for them to choose.
First time customers would only be able to choose them during the 3rd model walk when they finally wear number tags on their jeans. During the 1st and 2nd model walks, they were in briefs and shorts but no number tags so it was quite difficult to call them down to your seat unless you have mamasan next to you and you inform him.
Cambodian handsome hunk whom I took back on Monday night was not working today. But I spotted a Laos guy who worked at Banana last December and whom I met. So surprised that he's working at Jupiter now. Happy that he haf cimbed the gogobar ladder. I wanted to get reacquainted with him. Unfortunately, another customer had arranged to off him in advance.
I told mamasan that we would not be offing any guy tonight but I asked mamasan if it was possible to send over some guys to our table who could drink and he helpfully found some from those who had not been offed. We played card games where the loser had to drink half a shot of whisky. Some guys barely lasted a few shots while some guys could really drink and lasted all the way till we eventually ended at half past midnight.
Thursday (Day 5) - Visited Dreamboys and out of 30 guys on stage, I would take half of them. Yes, many are old timers but they are keeping themselves in shape. Music was not that loud. I found music at Jupiter to be louder. 10.30pm show is more or less the same but opening coyote dancing is not done by professionals anymore. It's now in-house with 11 of the Dreamboys guys on stage dancing. Unfortunately, most can't dance. Kudos for effort. Rest of show was entertaining enough. Quick transition between performances. Just the right balance of drag queen diva lip synching and other performances including two big cock shows with sucking. There was a Magic Mike style dance where two hunks in police uniforms danced and e eventually stripped down. That was the highlight for me and it was comparable in standard to Jupiter and Moonlight. Macho guy in high heels dancing was there as well. Many customers and had to squeeze. Main difference is no ladies in crowd unlike Jupiter which had many lady customers. I have visited 3 out of 4 bars on Soi Patpong. Left Hotmale to visit on another night.

Hey Talramund. I've pm'd you the link.

Hi JackR do you know where can I find the video with the journalist? Thanks, glad you enjoyed the city

Instead of creating a new thread, I will give some updates here, mostly about April and May visits to Madrid and Barcelona.
Madrid: the sauna that has boys for rent still exists but extremely slow. I think it was off the grand via and close to boyberry. I visited it on Sunday, there were two boys and two customers. One was young and on slim side with ok look, not my type. The other one was tall Spanish with belly. I didn't like him at all because he was old and out of shape. But he was kind and told me to go to a different sauna where I can get free sex. I thanked him and left. From some boys at Thermas visiting from Madrid I heard multiple times this Madrid sauna was bad and the manager is not good etc. Cannot comment on the manager but I won't visit this sauna again.
I went onto the local sites and I realized that the boy selections are not as overwhelming as Barcelona but made some inquiries and was surprised by the price range: most were 150e where in Barcelona I see most at 100e. It was not uncommon to get 200. Anyway one nice thing about Madrid is that you can do a day trip to Barcelona with the new fast trains. It lands in Sants, which is a short walk to Thermas. I didn't do it but I checked the schedule and price and I was surprised the prices were reasonable like 20euros round-trip...
Barcelona: boyberry was mentioned multiple times here so I wanted to check it out. Either way it is only 6e entrance fee and I went there in the afternoon on a weekday. I was surprised it was quite small and didn't have shower facility and people just roam around with clothes. I see they have nude days but I do not know how it works. The visitors are mostly older guys, some rare young guys but they seem to be into each other. I had around 10 guys at that time, maybe 2 are young. One guy who was around his 30s was getting sucked through a hole and I was just curious to see it from another cubicle through a hole but he stopped it and wiped his tool and came to me. I am not a big fan of sucking but he was a decent looking guy for free sex so I gave him some oral. Overall I might check out another day as it is cheap but I will only go there on a busy day, which seems like Tuesday and weekends.
Thermas: I usually go there on Wednesday (clients day) and Saturday. Saturday was slight busier than Wed but still the days before covid are done. Many regulars, mostly from Brazil but I do see some slim short Latinos, tanned skin, not sure where they are from. Venezuela? Mexico? I actually do not like the regulars as I know most of them are not my type or cannot deliver. A lot of them got old and you won't see it in the dark sauna but the faces are old when you see them close enough. I was hoping Junior would be there on Saturday during my last visit but he was not. My another favorite is the cuban guy, Daniel, and I had a really good session with him. My last session with him was ok, so I wasn't very excited about it but he exceeded my expectations and delivered something similar to our first experience, which is why I liked him at first place. His performance is really unpredictable but for 50e I don't mind trying and I tip when he exceeds. Just to give an incentive to deliver haha
Some new faces, or maybe visitors from other cities. Rene, Venezuelan, really my type but his is big so I wanted to try him after someone smaller, but on Saturday I was really struggling to find one, which never happened before. Finally I gave up and just wanted to try him but he left...ah, believe or not, my first time leaving Thermas without hiring. I was angry so I went onto local sites. My favorite is slumi because I can just click the WhatsApp button and send a message. Also many boys put their rate there so it saves unnecessary hassles. I hired a Brazilian, looked gorgeous but in person I realized his pictures were touched or older. The body had a bit more fat than the pictures and ass was not as round as the pictures...but he had a really nice attitude and 100% committed to my satisfaction, so overall I had a nice sex. But I won't hire him again simply based on the looks. 
Back to thermas boys: I also ran into the Russian guy who was discussed here: Igor. Nice face and attitude, quite honest. I asked him if he kisses, he said no and I said it won't work, so he said ok good luck in a very nice way. He always smiled when we pass by and said good night when I was leaving so I kinda liked his attitude. He seems like a pleasant person and too bad that he doesn't kiss. At least he is honest and I really like honest guys. I know some would lie about kissing and make the session awkward. One guy that annoyed me was the black old guy from Madrid. He wears a cross on his neck, quite fit for his age. But he has a disgusting attitude, like looking down on me, at least they way he talks to me. I don't mind being dominated in sex but until I hire them I want the process to be respectful and pleasant. Some stupid escorts do not know the difference between the two. He is one of them. Either way, he is way too old for my taste and I didn't wanna interact with him but he kept coming to me to chat in an unpleasant manner.
I also visited thermas in February and had a few good sessions. It was with Junior, David and another Brazilian but he was visiting. I had a dinner with him afterwards. I am realizing that I tend to like the visitors. My last visit made me worry a bit. It is quite obvious that the pre-pandemic glorious days are gone, at least for now. This sort of business stays in business only if they can attract enough talents but I see a visible decline in the look of the boys. I hope it keeps up and brings more attractive boys. I really don't know what factors are in play for this decline but at the moment most attractive guys are visitors from other cities. In the past, I used to see some Spanish guys in the sauna but I don't remember my last encounter with a Spaniard there. Maybe ten years ago?
Another worry is the new law about escort ads. One thing I really like about Barcelona is the ability to hire from these local websites. I can find my type quite easily from websites and I rarely had disappointing experiences in Barcelona. If these sites are banned, it will depreciate the value of Barcelona for this purpose.
 

I visited the original Thermas - in Barcelona - over two successive nights at the end of April.   First Night - Wednesday   On the first night, I got there about 6 pm.  I don’t see that many guys about  - I would say there was about seven guys for hire, and maybe same amount of clients.    In particular I noticed three rather feminine young men, who I first though were rentboys, but then realised that they were clients. They tended to stay in their own group and made no attempt to hire that I saw. I am not sure if they went into the wrong sauna, or just wanted to have a look around at the scene (of course, for all I really know, they may have been sated from a big orgy with a dozen rentboys just before i arrived).   Some of the escort guys were eating and seemed to have retired from the hunt, for the time being at least. I was only approached by a Nigerian guy and a South American guy (cannot remember exactly which country he said) named Juan.   I was not hugely taken with either guy. I agreed to go into a room with Juan for massage, which ended in mutual masturbation and he gave me a BJ. We agreed on €50 and I gave him €60  - we are in the room from maybe 40 minutes altogether.   The sauna was a bit quieter than I anticipated, so I asked Juan if it had been busier earlier in the day, and he said it was. So the next day Thursday I made an effort to be there by 4 pm.   Second Night - Thursday   There was a bigger crowd of guys this time. Maybe 15 escorts and slightly more customers. Several escorts approached me, but none very aggressively. I had a chat with Juan, who was there again, and seemed anxious for repeat business. In general the feeling I got was that they rentboys were nearly all South American guys. However, I did not like to question too much if I wasn’t interested in them, as I didn’t want to be seen to be "leading them on", so to speak.   I went for a dip in the little pool there ( a very pleasant feature which few mention in reviews) and saw a rather moody looking guy sitting in the seats in the corner at that level. He was a rather handsome, masculine, Eastern European looking kind of guy, so I went over and said hello. He was the only guy I took the initiative to approach in the Sauna.   He turned out to be a Russian guy called Ivan. We we had a chat and we agreed to go to a room. The only free rooms were both very dark and small, so I decided to splash out €10.50 for a private room The main advantage this was that it had sheets on the bed, and you could turn the lights up a lot, all the better for appreciating Ivan's fine physique!   Ivan told me he was straight, and top only. He had previously been a professional footballer. But now he was unemployed, and needed money.   We agreed to €60 for him to give me a massage and mutual masturbation. The massage was a bit hard for me - he told me he had been trained in proper sports massage, but I am more used to the light rubbing you get in Thai sexy massage place as a prelude to the "afters".   He then offered to fuck me. However, I was not in the mood for that, so I just told him I wanted him to cum. He said that he wanted another €30 or €40 for that, so I decided not to bother (there is nothing as desire-killing, as a guy who starts to negotiate in the middle of a session). In fairness to him, however, we had not discussed it before we entered the room, and I know it would probably hinder his ability to do so with a later client. So I didn’t hold that against him   Instead I just got him to  wank me until I came.   In the room, he seemed a little morose. I asked him if he was thinking of going back to Russia, and he said he was afraid to at the moment, with the possibility of conscription into Putin's war machine.   When we ended our session though, he accepted his €60 with a big smile, and volunteered to give me his phone number so we could arrange a session outside Thermas. So I think he was happy with his 40 minutes work and remuneration overall. However, as I was flying out the next day, I couldn’t take him up on the offer.   All in all, although it was not the most exciting sex experiences I have had, it was very pleasant and relaxing The rentboys all stayed out of the clients locker area, and it felt a very safe environment for both the rentboys and clients.

Sorry, an internet interruption stopped my progress…so I went out to lunch
back where I left off
Rafael (#10) told me his name is Sam.  He is from Cambodia (what other ASEAN natives do I need for a conference?).  He is ruggedly gorgeous with a generous smile.  I never connected with #15 but tipped him and thanked him for sitting with me.  Sam agreed quickly to my offer to check out my hotel.  We stopped at the new 7-11 and he picked up some food and water.  Nice time getting to know one another in the room while he was eating.  He laughs and smiles a lot.  He, as with my first off of the evening, knew the hotel and how everything worked.  He asked what I wanted to do, and I told him my evening so far and said I’d like him to take care of me.  Which he did very well - after we were both exhausted there was no rush to leave.  So ends Sunday.  

It is Monday morning and my scheduled activity has been postponed.  Which gives me some time to describe Sunday.  I woke early after an almost normal night’s sleep.  Must have been the one hour massage with Sun and two more at Prime.  I opened the Forum and responded to  comments and questions and also to the private messages.  It appears that Sun has provided favorable moments for a number of us!  I also read TotallyOz’s summary of the clubs and decided he was setting a trail that I might follow.
Awake, I had the breakfast at the hotel buffet.  Many nice touches but the scrambled eggs are cold.  This morning I dined it ting buy the windows that look out on the pool.  Some very nice eye candy.  But reality intervenes and I headed to the BTS and went to Mo Chit for the weekend market.  It’’s only 9:30am and it is very HOT (in the heat sense).  Picked up a few scarves and trinkets for folks back home.  When the BTS stopped at Siam, I decided rather than an immediate transfer I’d walk around Siam Paragon.  A few empty spaces, amazing display of automotive extravagance.  
Back on the way to the hotel, I stopped off at Coffee Grinder (see above) and had another smoothie.  Several tables of folks, very gay.  One gentleman and his extremely handsome and fit young companion, a table of friends of the managers and the usual cute staff.  Some gay cutting up and cheerful banter.  I was there for more than an hour and suspect I’ll be back.
Rain started around 4 or 5 and I went out to change some $$.  The hotel staff insisted I take an umbrella as it might rain again…it did.  Since I was out and about without having had lunch I went to the James Beard Award winner restaurant known to many of us, and dined for a pittance.  They have lowered the breakfast cost to 84 THB for early risers.
After returning to the hotel and returning the umbrella, I set out to check out some clubs projecting to visit all the major ones by Wednesday (reminder this is Sunday May14th).  But before I went out I was caught up with watching the election results come in and how they are reported.  Not understanding the politics, let alone the language, I guessed at who might be from what party.  Around 8pm, I decided it was time to get going.
On my way to the Street of Boys, I passed a voting station where the ballots were being counted in the open for all to witness.  Participatory democracy in action.
On entering the street I was spotted by the Lao who has long been associated with Hot Male and known by sight to many of us.  He introduced me to his co workers and I bought some drinks.  One of the grabbers/hosts from Freshboys remembered me and joined us. The uniforms have been up scaled from black shirt and pants to colorful vests and ties. He told me that the show would start around 10 but that the boys were on stage.  Since I really don’t care about the show, unless it is happening, I went up.  The Mamasan called me by my name and ushered me to a center seat.  House was about two thirds full.  Large contingent of boys in white shorts and shirtless.  Mamasan chatted about the changes covid made and that it was nice to see the old timers return (my term as I am old with a repeat history of visits).
If you read above about my terminated negotiation with”Bird” you might remember that I am a sucker for the handsome.  Well,  or maybe WELL, one boy in the rotation met my visual high standard criteria. Mamasan always alert to a sale/pleasing a customer answered pertinent questions.  Gay - yes.  Does A & B - yes.  I invited him to join me and he confirmed all the Mamasan told me.  I asked his age as he looked VERY young.  He said 23 and ID confirmed this.  HIs name was head as Wile.  Struck by his handsomeness I forgot even think about remembering his number.  I asked for certain services, he smiled, and agreement reached.  His short time was 2500 THB.  A bit more than I am used to but I was momentarily in passionate love,  We escaped to Quarter Silom, where he knew the layout of the hotel, how the various bits and pieces of the room worked.  I played voyeur as he hadn’t lowered the shade covering the glass wall between the bathroom and the rest of the room.
He is from Myanmar - and is incredibly well endowed.  I mention this most of the Myanmar spa photos on the forum from Myanmar show the well endowed.  Maybe they aren’t phot shopped.  He certainly wasn’t.  He proved that he did A+B+etc.  It was a very good time that I’d be happy to repeat.
In a moment of post activity bliss we were discussing stamps and he asked where I was from. I told him, he then said he has customers from the US, China, Japan, Singapore, Germany, Turkey, India, Cambodia, Vietnam, Dubai, and some others he couldn’t remember their countries.  Yes, clearly he has reason to know my hotel and probably manny others.  Class act.
He departed (probably for another immediate off) and I opened my IPad to find a message from a distinguished Forum member who also was an admirer of Sun going back to when he was at Bangkok Massage. We chatted and I mentioned that I was hoping to hear from Sun about a 4 hand massage.  Distinguished Forum Member (DFM) said he would Line Sun and vouch for me.  Ten minutes later we were all tasking and options for a third party were narrowed and one selected, he confirmed and DFM detailed his experiences and approved the choice. All arranged.  Thank you Forum for helping.
It is barely 10pm so I head out to check out Jupiter.  Never got that far, when I reached Banana the grabber grabbed me and gave me. Hug and kiss.  We go way back from when he has the same same task for Hot Male on Twilight.  Given the reception at Freshboys and here, I was pleased but realized I wan;t anonymous and the word (whatever that is) would be out among the boys.
So I was ushered into the remodeled (from my last trip) Banana and turned over to a Papasan who remembered me from Hot Male on Twilight.  Two of the boy from the rotation came over remembering me and I remembered  them.  Both Viets.  I bought them drinks and chatted as much as possible (my Apple Watch was warning me that the decibel level is so high that I could go damage my hearing if exposed for too long.
Banana did. Really nice rethink of its space.  What was the upper level with its own show is now the prep area for the performers, The outdoor area was enclosed creating a large indoor space with room for stage with a staircase for the performers to enter from.  Shower was in progress, handsome Canadian gymnast (who I would have offed but he was already claimed), lots of lip synching, some diva singing. House was packed with maybe 30 percent female audience.  Sitting with my Viet friends there was lots of room for hand action.  The Papasan in regular attendance recalling earlier visits he remembered me from.  Lucy did not even acknowledge me but then she was busy as more women were arriving around the time the rotation started up again and dealing with a very intoxicated woman who passed out for all to see and the wait staff to move to the bar area.  Boys in white shorts and shirtless for the rotation, several appealed to me.  Banana has really upped its game.  When I left the house was packed, boys were being offed, and more folks coming in.
While enjoying the handsy hands on experience,  decided to head out to Screwboys.  I tipped the Viets, thanked the Papasan, and tipped the greeter/grabber promising to return.
On to Screwboys.  Once in it was funereal.  Only two tables of customers and 8 boys many looking the worse for wear.  If the devoted reader scrolls back to my mention of a couple at the coffee shop earlier in the day, it was touch on the fact that they were one of the other tables.  The young companion recognized me, smiled, and offered a vodka shot.  I declined and he wrapped a banknote around the shot glass and invited the performers to drink.  This was more interesting than anything on stage. Another place where the Mamasan reminded me of former visits and promised to let Yoyo know I had stopped by.  He isn’t working there, not sure if he is working anywhere.
 I bolted without finishing my drink.  Went up stairs to Hot Male.  No one here recognized me. NIce change.  Given a center seawhile the rotation was. In progress prior to the start of mid-night show.  The guys were in jeans and some were shirtless.  Very masculine appearing group.  One of the guys on my entering struck me as looking like Rafael Nadal. Tall and well formed.  Another also appealed to me.  I asked the waiter to give each a red note.  He confused who was to get what to the amusement of the boys and the other waiters.  When the rotation ended both came over and sat with me. Rafael (#1