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  1. On 4/19/2023 at 5:19 PM, spoon said:

    For massage and sex, beefier guys are in places like arena, vck, jeyspa, sabaidee.

    There are beefy muscular guys in other massage places here and there, maybe one or two but the 4 i mentioned above seems to be carrying more guys like what u want

    I tried to check the Line for sabaidee spa but they account is full, could not add them as a friend. Is there any other place we could see their photes? 

  2. 17 hours ago, Gaybutton said:

    Look on the apps.  I've seen many times pairs of boys advertising themselves for threesomes.  I'm sorry, I can't point specifically to any of them.  Threesomes are not my interest, so I didn't pay much attention.  Nevertheless, they are there.

    Also, if you are chatting with a boy on the apps, tell him you are looking for a threesome.  He mighty be interested or might know someone who is.  Can't hurt to try.

    I can't remember to see much of these on the apps on my last visit. I used Grindr and Romeo mostly, hope to find something. Thanks for the help! 

  3. 19 hours ago, vinapu said:

    why not to do both / are you there only one night ?

    If boy doesn't like 3somes then is better not to force that on him, it likely won't work

    If I count my evening arrival to Bkk then 2 nights, what is my other best option beside hotmale?

  4. 19 hours ago, vinapu said:

    why not to do both / are you there only one night ?

    If boy doesn't like 3somes then is better not to force that on him, it likely won't work

    Yes, I realized that. I did not make a big deal about it and enjoyed the rest of the night with him. Next morning I just made a comment that next time I will choose somebody else so he would understand why I don't off him from again.

  5. 17 hours ago, vinapu said:

    you should talk to your boy and quite possibly he would know willing friend of friend

    Actually I did in the hotel room and he confessed he doesn't like doing it.

    In this case mamasan info was not the best or the boy attitude was different. I had a good time anyway, but keep thinking what to do next week when in Bkk. Should I try hotmail again or go somewhere else.?

  6. On 3/13/2023 at 3:46 PM, ChristianPFC said:

    There is a sub-forum, accessible only to members, on sawatdeenetwork, where we discuss service providers. But it's not popular.

    With some of my Farang friends, we discuss the boys we meet extensively. I would like to read such reports, but it does not seem popular on the forums. I did my part of sharing, now let others do the same (e.g. the OP, where is your contribution?). Such information can save a lot of time and money, and indeed did for me and friends.

    Fortunately, most of my encounters are of a way that I would meet the guy again, and if the encounter is not what I'm looking for, it's not his fault and I would recommend him to friends. But some are useless in bed, various issues/problems/troubles, I would post that as well to save others the expense and disappointment.

     

    Would be great!

    For example on my last visit I tried to get a 3some. I was bar hopping and ask mamasan in Hotmail, he pointed out one guy but we went DJ station and enjoyed the rest of the night dancing. It was too late to get back to any bar to try to take another boy. Hoping on my next visit I will manage to organize it but will stay only 2 nights in BKK on the way to Bali.

    List of reliable boys with things are willing to do could help lots of members to save time and perhaps money too.

    Anyone has recommendation for 3 some, appreciate the info :)

  7. On 1/25/2023 at 11:45 AM, spoon said:

    Next - Day 2 - Getting into a routine.

    Since my LT from Tawan left early, I continued my beauty sleep and woke up much later, skipping breakfast. I checked my line and saw that the forum member J finally replied to my text apologizing for not replying sooner since he was sleeping. I replied back saying it's ok, I went out with A and we had fun. I asked about his plan for the day and he told me he already has a boy coming to his hotel now! I told him, at this rate, he might not leave his hotel at all lol.

    I told him I will go to Prime for my opening ritual massage and then head for lunch. We then agreed to meet tonight for bar visits. I showered and made my way down Surawong road to Soi Than Tawan aka Silom Soi 6 to Prime Massage. Immediately noticed that one of their buildings at the corner is now part of the Quarter Silom hotel.

    I went inside and there were few customers already there. I was asked to sit down and wait for my turn. Once it was my turn, I chose my massage, a two-hour oil massage for 900 (100 baht higher than before) and was reminded of the minimum tip of 100. I asked if I could choose my masseur and she immediately took her Ipad and started choosing pics of the masseur. She showed me 4 pics. I chose one guy, quite handsome and with a nice body. After a few seconds, she told me that the masseur is not available and asked me to choose again, now only 3 choices.

    I look at it again, this time quite a bit harder to choose lol. Anyway, I settled with a masseur that has a slightly smaller frame. After I paid for my massage, I was asked to sit and wait for the masseur to come. I was then brought upstairs for my massage session. No happy ending but the massage this time was extra good, and the masseur skills are definitely unique. I would rate it one of the best i had so far from prime. Upon leaving, I confirmed with the reception of his name in case I would like to book him for another session.

    I can't remember where I had my lunch afterwards, but it was uneventful. Most likely a bit further down Silom road to a Malaysian restaurant there, as well as checking the exchange rate at the huge orange Supperich office. Went back to my hotel for my disco nap and at about 7pm I contacted forum members A and J about meeting tonight. A actually thinking of visiting the onsen since the weather in Bangkok was indeed quite cold, and I barely sweat walking during the day, but since J is also joining me tonight, A decided to join and maybe visit the onsen another time. None of us had dinner yet so we decided to meet at 8pm for dinner. A suggested an Issan dinner place behind Silom Complex.

    I arrived at T Rungroj Shop around 8 and J was already there. Not long after A also arrived. We took a table and A, with his Thai skills, made the order for the table. Good selection of seafood dishes and somtam/larb, but poor selection of drinks (beer, coke and water) The food was exceptional, and price was reasonable, plus we will be drinking during our bar visits, so nothing to complain about. We talked about a bunch of topics seeing that this is the first time we three meet again after covid, and towards the end, we decided on which bar to visit tonight, and it will be Jupiter.

    We arrived at Jupiter a bit early, but J decided to book a table with a bottle, so he did, saving us cover charge. We then went into Pride to drink and listen to the live singer, which we recognized used to work at Jupiter before as their midnight singer. Close to 10.30pm, we made our way to Jupiter and were seated near the stage corner on the right side. Couldn't ask for a better seat as it gives us a full unobstructed view of the stage.

    The shows start with all the boys in underwear doing a catwalk on the stage, then the boy will go down to the floor, towards the back, to the right side and back to the left side before going up the stairs. Pre-covid, the catwalk only on the stage then boys go str8 to the left for the stairs. From our seats, we can see the boys changing their clothes too. The shows were also great. mostly sexy shirtless boys dancing, and even when there is a ladyboy/drag show, there will be 2-3 sexy shirtless hot guys accompanying the ladyboy. 

    After a few shows, the boys will come down again for another catwalk, this time with jeans, but shirtless. Then more shows, with the famous dancing with towels number that I really enjoy. In a few numbers, the boys actually are showing their dicks, mostly covered by see-through underwear or just peeking through tight underwear. But there was one guy who actually shows his dick full on, without wearing any condom. Too bad he isn't the hottest guy there, a tad bit older too.

    There are at least 3 guys I would consider off, and that's a good amount seeing that I have very low expectations of Jupiter boys will give me good service, so those 3 are worth it for me to take a chance, Happy to report the famous Arm and Boom are still there. Considering that we actually had a bottle, we could've called any boys for a drink but since I didn't feel I'd waste my night offing a potentially non-performer, and my resolve on getting an LT, I didn't bother to call any boy for a drink. J had one boy he liked but too bad the boy was already seated with a customer. A also didn't get any boy for a drink and he excused himself once the show was over, with the last catwalk of boys, whoever was still around.

    At midnight, the singers take over and start singing a mix of English, Thai and Chinese songs. Some customers and boys go on the stage to dance. One lady customer was celebrating her birthday and clearly too drunk to a point that she might pass out or worse, vomit. But she powers through, and still keeps drinking by the time J and I leave, which is around 1am. Customer wise, not full, but not bad for a weekday night. Mixed with Asian, farangs, old, young, mostly with friends. I didn't see any big spenders this time though.

    The guy who showed his dick on stage is with a lady customer who was lucky enough to be invited to be on stage when Arm and Boom were giving her lap dance on stage for one of their numbers. Too bad the hula hoop dance by Mr. Boom wasn't on offer tonight. Right before we left, I asked the singer if he knew a Thai song that I like, showed him the youtube, but unfortunately, he didn't know the song. Anyway, I did tip Mr. Boom as he is the only one that smiles at me when he walks down one of the 3 catwalks.

    Thinking that tonight was a bust, me and J left Jupiter at 1am, when most of the boys are allowed to leave the bars as well, unless they are with customers drinking. As we walked out the Soi 4, Banana club staff told us that they still have a show on and asked if we wanted to come in. I looked at J and without much words exchanged, we agreed to at least have a look.

    The bar is average size, not as big as say dreamboys, but not as small as the new Tawan. When we entered, there was still a show, but it was about to end, and it was the drag lip-sync show. I have to admit that the drag show here is better, and I usually judge it by how "believable" it is. Shortly after, the boys go on the stage, around 20+ boys, most aren't my type. However, there is one guy, who is typically not my type but he does have very defined six-pack abs, only on a smaller frame, much smaller than I used to. J saw a few guys he liked as well and told me some of them he used to offed from fresh boys. 

    Anyway, I guess the six-pack guy noticed that I've shown some interest and started to try quite hard to get my attention. We were seated very close to the stage, and since I'm already considering him, I asked him if he would go LT and he said yes. That's pretty much all I need to bring him down and start the negotiation. Since it's already late, I don't bother with boy drinks, called over a mamasan that is not mama lucy, and paid my drink and off fee, and I excuse myself while J is still thinking on who to pick. Later I found out he took off two boys!

    Again, my off deliver all I expected of him and little more. Hiring the guy who isn't the model or popular has its advantages. Almost always, the service is much better, eager to please and no issues such as asking to leave early. In fact, he stays with me way past noon, and even accompanies me for lunch at Icon Siam ground floor. He stays nearby the mall, so that works out great for both of us. I'm 2 for 2 now lol. 

    Next - Day 3 -  My First Repeat. 

    I am big fan of Prime and I like the idea of having different guy for massage, each has their own style, some better than the other. Any chance to know tha mane of your guy from prime? Thanks in advance...

  8. On 1/23/2023 at 4:52 PM, bkkmfj2648 said:

    I also like 3some - massages - 4 hands and I don't like to do it in the massage shop - so I pay a premium over what others here in Pattaya / Jomtien pay to do it in the massage shop.

    I pay 2.000 baht to each guy - 2 massage guys - so, 4.000 baht.

    Some will sure SCREAM and say that I am overpaying for this local market but I do not believe so by much more.

    Here is an example if I do the same thing in a massage shop:

     500 paid to the massage shop

    1.500 tip paid to guy #1

    1.500 tip paid to guy #2

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    3.500 to do it at the massage shop instead of the comfort of my home where I control the music, lighting, oils and lotions that we use, what we drink, fun chat time also on my balcony to know the guys better.  Also, at home I do not need to worry about some things that freak me out at some of the massage shops;

     bugs and insects, where do I put my valuables when I take my shower, strange smells, temperature is too hot or too cold, I do not like the music, etc.

    so, for a 500 baht premium I am VERY happy to "order in" for my massage fun...

     

    Which massage shop could you reccomend to find easily 3 some experience? Thanks for sharing your experties...

  9. 55 minutes ago, rollingstone said:

    The place was open - I visited the premise on 10th August.

    Great news! I am sure many of us would love to hear a little bit more details about your experience :)

  10. 21 hours ago, scott456 said:

    Your friend plays the role of a mamason for you.  But do you think you can negotiate a boy yourself without your friend's help?

    I don't think so. First, you need to know which part of Manila to find them. If I remember well these were local areas with high rise condominiums where plenty people live in a congested area. The next problem you could face that not all the boys speak English. If one of the boy helps you with the language then you need a place to do it, unless if you are willing to take it back to your hotel room. Lots of road blocks.

  11. 7 hours ago, emiel1981 said:

    Are we talking about many, many years ago...? Or are the boys in Manila still that cheap? And I was thinking Thailand was already a bargain... Lol

    It was at least about 6 years ago. These boys are straight, they would do only 2 things, you can suck them and they could fuck you. Not all the boys are available, my friends were checking who wanted to make some money with sex and it was discussed publicly with the group but not all the boys were up for it. Sometimes I could not really choose because of the selection was lacking boys I like. I did not have a chance to go back in the last couple years  so can not confirm if this is still available but you need a local to help you. 

  12. On 6/19/2022 at 5:11 AM, vinapu said:

    Day 11

    Bay View restaurant was not opened  yet so for breakfast we went by baht bus all the way  to Kiss and despite early ( for Pattaya ) hours  they were quite busy, in fact I think we took last free table. We parted ways after that , I went again to exchange money, what else at such a pace and to Internet café to catch with my e-mails. Then some aimless wandering here and there.

    Early afternoon I took motorsai , just for sake of supporting economy ( 60 baht) to Jomtien Complex to see Nara in his shop for good bye 1.5 hr massage. Driver dumped me on the main road and while passing by in one of massage shops I noticed quite handsome and muscly ,  heavily tattooed hunk and took note of his presence just in case. But I kept my plan , had massage with Nara, tipped him 2000 as it was our last meeting this trip and invited him for a meal to French restaurant on the corner as I wanted to taste that duck leg mentioned yesterday.

    It was great but not better than one I’m making  I noted proudly. After meals we kissed out good bye, Nara is not shy guy. He went to his shop and I went to look for songtaew but recalled that handsome masseur and decided to see if he is still there.

    He was so I just motioned and we went inside for another massage, session was good, he was muscular and well endowed , kissy,  huggy but there was something I did not like –strange odor coming from his skin. Not smell, not even unpleasant  but it bothered me. No idea what it could be – soap, some skin cream or other cosmetic, diet, result of taking some medication or substance , whatever it was , it spoiled my experience. I did not say anything, tipped him my normal rate 1000 / hr and went home bit disappointed as he was prime material for a night long session. Oh well , I need to find some substitution. And I got an idea who it will be, P and R from my first night in Pattaya and yesterday party in Dreamboys.

     So  I freshened up, shaved and went to Pickety for people watching. My yesterday’s guy was busy with guests  but it was Ok as my mind was fixed. After finishing beer changed sides to BBB, ordered some drink and asked mamasan about my guys. There weren’t  there yet but he assured me they will come as they are at the gym. Oiled with 100 baht tip , he even  called  them to confirm.

    P showed soon , R bit later. L , our companion 2 night ago seeing what is going on stopped by hoping  he will be third but ‘just two tonight “ I said , consoled him with red note, paid 1000 off fee  and off we went to Bay View for a dinner passing by Suwit shop. He was not there but was keeping watchful eye from somewhere because soon after we sat down for a meal I got Line message ‘ two boys tonight my Casanova “ from him.

     In 7/11 we stocked on few beers and went to the room. Both are very talkative , P more on shy side , R quite opposite , undressed right away as he explained he doesn’t like chain of dress  when inside.

    They told me a lot about their lives and friendship and at one point, I swear it was not my idea, P asked if his brother B whom we met last evening in Dreamboys can join. Holly molly thought I but of course  agreed, in few minutes phone rung and P went to pick him up downstairs. He looked even more handsome than yesterday and perhaps most manly of them three , explained by age difference.

     Thankfully we were well stocked with beer and also few snacks so we feed him and fun continued until time came to go to bed. I had 2 spare towels so showering was no problem but to keep things civilized I suggested I will shower with each of them separately. After all we have two brothers here.

    Other guys were familiar with procedure from 2 days ago, B, last in line to get wet  was visibly shy, I sense he must be new in the business and never showered with customer before but he soldiered on with smile.

     When we emerged it looked  that other two boys not only made some order on the table after all that    drinks and snacks  but also thought well about bed arrangement reserving right half of bed for us two latecomers. That way brothers were separated by R and me , eliminated any brotherly awkwardness in such a situation.

     No , we did not have any foursome, that would be gross. I had three guys with me  to enjoy their company one by one so obviously at one point I switched places with R in order for P not to feel abandoned or discriminated . In process I understood what it means to sleep with the phone, R literally was clutching his all night.

    It was fun and thanks to mutual co-operation and understanding we avoided anything we possibly could feel uneasy about recalling it later. Sure R emerged in the morning from under the sheets sporting glorious erection but from reaction of other two it was clear he is not shy in their room either , they all live together in one room with one more guy who I understand doesn’t  work in  a bar.

    Morning distribution of tips ended such fabulous day 11, they declined offer of breakfast saying that they have food at home they want to eat otherwise it may be unusable later. Thank you my glorious boys  I thought after they left, what a night ! 

    Reading Vinapu's reports I feel like I got the best tourist guide on hand. I just made it to Pattaya, and something like this would be a dream for me to try at least one time. I wonder If I go to BBB and ask the mamasan, is P and R working tonight? would I get the same guys? lol

    If not, Vinapu, more guidance appreciated!

  13. 13 hours ago, Vessey said:

    At Scandic Massage near the Second Road entrance into Boyztown, you choose your boy from outside, you go inside the shop with him to the cashier at the far end where you are told '1,500 baht for massage and sex with boy'  and you pay that up-front - an 'all in' payment so to speak for massage and a shag 😅

    I found out later that the boy himself got half that, so I would usually give my regular lad an extra tip in the room - but that certainly wasn't expected.

     

    Royal House Massage, I was told that, aside from the massage payment, that the boy would expect 1,000 baht tip and I recall noticing that as the massage commenced there was a condom and lube put ready and my lad (no English), just completed the massage, and without a word, put on the condom, lubed-up and got to work! 🤣

     

    I have had a lad at a massage shop behind Tukom seemingly delighted that I gave him 300 baht after a successful hand-job - he assumed at first that that was me just paying the 300 massage fee. 

    At Soda Massage in Jomtien Complex, I give 1,000 for mutual blow-jobs and happy endings, and up to 2,000 if penetrative sex took place.

    In Foxy Massage, just up from Soda, a gay boy there specifically negotiated 2k for me to shag him at the end of the massage.

    But in most cases, I have usually negotiated with the boy as to what he would do and how much. For me negotiation time is when the back massage is complete and I have turned over and my little flag-pole is waving happily at him. 

     

    Thanks Vessey for the list of "more than just a massage" places. I see these are Pattaya locations. Any chance for few Bangkok massage shops worth to visit?

     

    On 6/19/2022 at 2:22 PM, z909 said:

    This very much depends on the type of massage place.

    There are the gay places like Arena that have all male staff, with more than a massage assumed and big minimum tips.

    Then there is the type of massage shop that tries to look like it only offers professional massages, with no extra services implied.     These will typically have no minimum tip, or something modest, like 100 baht.   These may include mixed-gender staff, male only or female only (not that the latter is of much interest).    They often still offer a HJ, with a negotiated tip.   Obviously anyone after that should book something like an oil massage, as they're not going to offer anything extra with a foot massage conducted in the reception area.

     

     

    Looking for places with full service.

  14. On 6/20/2022 at 2:58 AM, vinapu said:

    I know that feeling, strangely I had that only on approach of Arena and Senso, but not other places. Be brave next time

    Over the years I missed few things they were on my to do list. Never made it to Hero because it was far out, alwayas planned for Babylon but did not get enough time for a half day spa/sauna visit. Arena was another place, luckily stil available. I had Senso couple times and always had a great time there ( perhaps because more happened than just a massage) :)

     

  15. 7 hours ago, z909 said:

    This very much depends on the type of massage place.

    There are the gay places like Arena that have all male staff, with more than a massage assumed and big minimum tips.

    Then there is the type of massage shop that tries to look like it only offers professional massages, with no extra services implied.     These will typically have no minimum tip, or something modest, like 100 baht.   These may include mixed-gender staff, male only or female only (not that the latter is of much interest).    They often still offer a HJ, with a negotiated tip.   Obviously anyone after that should book something like an oil massage, as they're not going to offer anything extra with a foot massage conducted in the reception area.

     

     

    I see Arena name comes up in couple posts. Are they open? One place I always wanted to try and few times I reached the staircase, looked up and run away as a scared chicken ☺️. I must do it this time...

  16. On 5/17/2022 at 6:44 AM, Boy69 said:

    I would prefer to stay at Jomtien complex over Boyz Town any time ,You have very good hotels with swimming pool like The Agate or Zing (be careful not to book other Zing hotel which is not located in Jomtien complex ) and also very nice guesthouses the best is East Suites with spacious luxury rooms and a free entering to Zing's swimming pool . you are in the heart of the gay bars complex , 5 minutes walking from Jomtien beach and 15 minutes drive by Baht bus to Central Pattaya. Boyz Town is noisy , no swimming pool and as Vinapu said everyone can see who you are walking with not a great thing if you want keep discreet . It's not a good idea to stay at the big resorts such Hard rock because some charge joiner fee for each guest you bring to your room. For first time I would dedicate at least one week to Pattaya and visit the beutiful nearby island Koh Larn is a must .

    It seems like no breakfast available in Agate and East S. - as per Agoda. Is that correct? Need to find breakfast somehwre else?

  17. 19 hours ago, vinapu said:

    based on my recent ( Dec and just now ) experience that's 900 wasted , better spent on drink and off fee in the bar 

    It depends when you arrive, my flight is at 7:15 pm. Maybe this is the only way to make it to the bars before midninght lol

     

  18. On 5/27/2022 at 4:04 AM, vinapu said:

    Repeated last night if somebody really needs to know. One participant from first time dismissed, suitable replacement hired, all 3 still sleeping scandalous at 9 in the morning

     

     

     

     

    I planned something like this for my birthday :), then pandemic came and never managed to be back in BKK. I hope next month I can make it there. Vinapu I need your help! which hotel I should book where I can walk-in with 3 boys and which bar I should start looking? I hope you can help to fulfill my birthday wish :) 

  19. Just visited Prime first time. Busy Sunday afternoon but managed to get combination of foot and oil massage 1.5 hrs for 600 baht.

    Both parts were satisfactory for quality massage. Based on comments here I was not expecting anything during the massage but boy automatically did a hand job towards to the end without offering or asking for money for extra service. Enjoyed the monent but was not sure how much I supposed to be tipping in this situation. ?

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