JimmyJoe

This reminds me of some unexpected experiences I had a couple of years ago at a Chiang Mai male massage shop. I went twice, both times the mamasan assured me all his boys were straight, top only, no negotiating. I went with the cutest, smiling twink from the line up. After massaging for a while, and with no prompting whatsoever on my part, he made it very clear he would accept to bottom for me. He did so, valiantly, since I think it was a somewhat uncomfortable experience for him, which is also why I cut it pretty short. Anyway, I enjoyed thoroughly and went back a couple of days later. I then experienced a repeat of this exact same scenario with another "totally straight, totally top boy". So as you've both said, just need to see for myself and go with the flow. As always in LOS.

Thanks guys, for all this helpful information. Abomb sounds well worth a visit. Of course, from what I read here, I suspect I'll leave empty handed since the guys sound like they are all tops. Who knows, maybe I'll get lucky.

oops. Sorry I posted in the wrong forum. Pretty counterproductive. But as you said, a few others seem to have seen the post and have already given some helpful info.

A very informative thread is currently saying some great things about Abomb Pattaya. I've never been in there. Maybe some forum members could give information on the bar. Most of the information I find on Abomb is from several years ago. What are the tip expectations of the boys there? Drink prices, off fee? I gather they've currently got a good crew of well built guys.

Thanks for all the ideas guys. I'll have to start my field research as soon as possible

I have had my best ever massages at Prime massage Bangkok. The premises are very pleasant. The guys, generally, have excellent massage skills. I'm not interested in a happy ending. But I do like a massage by a handsome male. In Pattaya , I've happened upon a couple of guys who give good massages, at the legit places, where there are boys and girls outside. But I've yet to find anywhere that has masseurs providing consistently a top quality massage, not to mention good quality of premises. Sex and hand jobs seem easy to come by in Pattaya, but a good massage, I have found more elusive. That's why I posted my question. I'll have to try Healthland, as suggested by one poster.

Does anyone know of a shop in Pattaya that has male masseurs who can approximate the skills of the guys at Prime Bangkok. TBMI and Chevarone are the only two places that come to my mind, and they really don't offer the same Prime experience.

As I recall, the cross street was Merchant. The Millenium hotel is within a block or two of Lime Spa, also on 54th St. I hope we aren't derailing this thread. Certainly not my intention.

No wonder it seemed so reasonable, boy gave me a discount without realizing it, I guess! Or maybe the advertised 35000 Kyat is tip included?

I paid 17000 kyat to the spa, for "VIP" room, i.e. shower in room. Plus tip to boy. Total 47000 kyat approx. € 29 Seemed very reasonable to me.

As I recall, both boys asked for 40000 kyat and happily agreed to my counter of 30000 kyat. 1 hour. One of them insisted on a body to body massage. That was the first time ever for me. I enjoyed it. BTW, the key to finding the place, once you've found the street and block: look for a building named Triple Six Condo. Otherwise, no street numbers I or cab drivers were able to figure out.

Thanks for the very interesting trip report. I don't know if you are still Yangon. I was there twice recently and loved it. I agree, the poverty is grinding. I did find a very nice massage place. Staff was very welcoming. Very clean, in room shower. You pick the boys from an iPad. I was very happy with the very cute boys I chose on both occasions I went. The place was every bit as clean places I have been to in Bangkok and Pattaya. I'd call it mid market. The only downside is it is quite a challenge to find the place. Lime Spa. The downtown branch. No.31/37(5-B), 5th Floor Triple Six Condo 54th St (Lower Block) Botahtaung Township Yangon Phone- 09 2500 15002 I also found a legit massage place with cute boys only who give excellent foot and body massage (both parties remain fully clothed) Bliss massage 19th street

I just returned from 4 weeks in Pattaya . After reading the reports here of an increase to 500B I was slightly apprehensive when I went back to Good Boys. I am pleased to report that the boys accepted my 300B tip just as the had in the past. I went several nights and they always lined up for me, as in the past. So I guess 300B is still ok. I didn't ask any questions, just handed them the 300B each time. There was no pushback.

You don't mean they boys in Nice Boys shoot their load right in the bar, Good Boys style? That would be a sight to behold.

Does anyone have experience with Uber in Pattaya? I use Uber-type car services in my country frequently also in Bangkok. I've used Uber a couple of times in Pattaya. The drivers always seem anxious to agree to a pick up point away from motorcycle or taxi congregation points. I'm at loss to figure out where a good pick up point is near BT and Sunee but away from taxi and moto guys. Any suggestions? BTW, I had one unfortunate experience where my driver was pulled over by the cops and hassled, at length. My young friend and I ended up getting out and taking a baht bus home.

I'm also interested in these condos. Where do you see them advertised as short term rentals?

Thanks for such a good trip report. I learned (here, a while back) that masseur can be chosen at Prime. Every time since, I have chosen using the iPad. Only been discreetly offered a hj once, I think. I declined. I never go for hj anyway, but for a, usually, great massage.

I was in Phuket last January. I had some great times at Naka massage and ended up taking one of their boys off for several days. He was great and well endowed. Always a plus, in my book. Otherwise, I found the bar scene pretty dismal, though much better than anything I could find in my home country... Would recommend one of the gay hotels in/near Paradise, not the Paradise Hotel itself, as others have said. https://www.phuket.net/directory/health-beauty/naka-massage-paradise-complex/

This thread is a great idea. Lots of useful information already. I was wondering again about off tips, specifically the difference between expectations in host bars vs. gogo bars. If, assuming others agree, the going rates in Bangkok would be approx. 2000 ST 3000 LT (Hotmale, Dreamboys, Freshboys, Classic), and in Pattaya approx. 1000 ST and 2000 LT (Cupidol, Power Boys, Nice Boys, DreamBoys), what would ST, LT expectations be at the host bars, Bangkok Hotmale2, etc. , Pattaya Jomtien, Sunee?

Another vote for the Agate. I've stayed there a few times and liked it very much. The premises are very nice and the staff always made me, and my young friends, feel welcome.

Two points. Over and over again I am amazed at the potency of Thai money, massage boys, especially their ability to get hard instantly and to cum over and over again. Is it the industry that attracts these guys with this unusual ability ( I suspect so) or is this broadly how Thai males generally are? No way for me to know. Also, I just don’t get the often blurred lines of Thai male sexuality. There seem to be many Thais who a somewhere along the spectrum of bisexuality, which I can more or less fathom. But these high performance-art straights, killing you softly in bed. I really don’t get how they do it. It must be due to true desperation. Because, if I try to think of myself performing similar acts on women, for money, on command, no matter how hard I tried, there is no way in hell I could do any of it (revealing of where I am on the bi spectrum). Maybe people have difference tolerance levels for disgusting acts (the infamous “ick” factor).

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My sentiment exactly. The phrase is an oxymoron if ever there was one. You’ll also note my use of the word performer. I meant it in the sense of an acting performance as well as a sexual one. Summed up best by a447 in his post following yours. These guys, gay and straight, are all acting, with wildly varying results.

That has been exactly my experience this trip. Last December /January Cupidol was the place for me. Not so this trip. Dream boys has been good. But lots of straight twinks, and I really do prefer gay. I’ve had too many straight, bags of rice in my bed. I'll digress to say I hooked up with a hot, straight, Dream Boy boy the other night. It goes against my instincts, to off a straight, but he was so persistently saying he did everything. Mamasan came over and said, “We guarantee”. "If you want fuck and boy not fuck, you no pay.” I’d like to see that unhappy scenario unfolding with boy in my condo. Anyway, took boy off and, get this, he was a great performer, enthusiastic bottom and great kisser! More so than most of my gay offs (the kissing part). So I may have to reevaluate my no straights policy (exception always having been Nice Boys, same same but different). But I have to add one caveat re: this great performing straight boy. He did transform the LT into ST. But I didn't care at that point, he'd been so valiant in bed. My experience so far this trip: Prism is best and yes, Toy Boys is mostly boys I’m not even remotely interested in, some are even downright fat. But there certainly has been the one I mentioned in previous post who made my trip there well worth it. BTW, last night midnight he sent me a whole spate of his sexy photos. I guess he hadn’t been offed and was vying for another off with me. So yeah, it’s all about negotiating skills…and supply and demand.

There have been so many interesting contributions here. Just to wend back momentarily to the ToyBoys off tip expectations, as the OP. I went back to ToyBoys last night. It was full of eager boys. Three or four to my taste. I bought one boy a drink, Cambodian, and I mean drop dead gorgeous, perfect muscle twink body (again, question of personal taste). When he said he wanted 2000 st 3000 lt. I said 2000 lt, until at least nine a.m. Period. He was unhappy. I just started scanning the room and smiling at all the boys who were waving, etc. at me, totally prepared to take one of them. My boy quickly said, yes, yes 2000 lt. He ended up even more beautiful dressed, if that’s possible. Performed wonderfully back in my room and hung around til noon. I had to push him out the door.