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up to 3 hours, chatting, drinking or eating....went to the movies last trip with one kid. Guys that have their rates at 200k + can be difficult but not impossible. The humbler guys in the 70-150k price range seem more open to some free food/drinks, lol


 
 
Stop that, lol

Kind of like Barcelona, many guys seem to put a higher value on their time outside of the saunas....many guys at Lagoa also are online.

I'm old fashioned, I like to see, touch, smell and hear how the guy is, not all that is available when hiring online. I've had mixed results from online, ,enough that I prefer in person tons over guessing if they have bad breath or talk like a girl. I guess a video call would help with some of that.....but when given the chance to be in person, I'll do that...is why we pay stupid sauna entrance fees and Thailand expensive drink prices, lol

I'm just back from Colombia, with new guys, I'll meet in a public place for a drink 1st to see if there is chemistry....no knocking on the door surprises that are more difficult to back out of.

Taking notes from this for my trip this year. 😬😬😬

Nooo....Brasil on a dead day is more satisfying, sexually, than PVR.....PVR can be fun, at times.....but no where as good for sex as in Brasil on a bad day, lol

If you're going as far as Colombia, might as well go to Brasil....you'll thank me later 😉

When I was there last (2002), I too wss disappointed in the sauna, but hit the jackpot with a young taxi driver and with a guy at my hotel.

When I was there last (2002), I too wss disappointed in the sauna, but hit the jackpot with a young taxi driver and with a guy at my hotel.

Where else are you going besides Brasil.....if you only had a week, I'd still do both. August is winter in Rio, not as busy as other months, a lot of the "talent" goes to Sao Paulo or stay in SP and don't go to Rio....but like buttercawan said, you can still do touristy things, and there are guys in Rio, just not the selection as in warmer months. so at least 3 days in SP and make sure the days line up to be the good ones in the saunas in both cities.... Rio= Mon 202, Tues 117, Wed 202....SP= Lagoa Thurs, Fri, Sat 

Sauna days are dependent on the weather, when it rains, is usually shitty...if they do something like Bingo or free food could be busy. If there's a party or event in town could be slow, the guys priorities is party over work.

I'm in Tokyo now.
Thanks to all these valuable tips, I had fun this evening.

Used "Independence" as recommended.
You can just send an email. No need to use the elaborate form.

The location was not on a back alley, but just about twenty yards from the train station exit on the street that runs parallel to the train route. Otherwise, Draden's account above of his experience with Independence was identical to mine.
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I took the ¥ 18,000 option ($115 thanks to the very weak yen) for a one-hour "swap": 30 minutes with one young man, then 30 minutes with a second one. The price is all inclusive and covers the room and all fees. No extra tip is expected.
Both guys were good at kissing and sucking. Both were good bottoms, although one was small and extremely tight.
One looked like his photo. However, the second guy was 6' and looked nothing like the 5'9" Dylan I'd picked, but he did speak fairly good English as was claimed for Dylan. And he was enthusiastic and talented.
I was erroneously thinking that the cost in Tokyo was wildly higher than the cost in São Paulo. But on reflection, that is not true. At Lagoa my total for the entry fee, two rooms, and two garotos could easily be 600 reals ($116, almost exactly the same price I paid in Japan this evening)!
Of course, in Brazil we get to do more preliminary screening — but that does not always guarantee the ace performances I got tonight in Japan. I still prefer Brasileiros and their saunas, but I'm happily surprised that my days in Tokyo will include some good company in bed. 

I found my masseurs in the apps:
HeeSay and in Grindr
Note that the word "massage" is an illegal word to use within the HeeSay app - so everybody just uses a different version - I used "maxsage" and I had no issues with the HeeSay chat monitors and the Vietnamese audience was able to understand what I was looking for.
I am a 4 hands massage afficionado and I had difficulties to arrange those in my AirBnB room - as the Vietnamese are much more conservative than their Thai counterparts - as they still need to hide what they do - as they are all expected to get married by their traditional conservative families.  I told all of the guys who complained to me about this to find and marry an open minded lesbian who has the same predicament - which will allow:
 - the family to be happy with the desired facade,
- they can live their lives with their respective man-to-man and woman-to-woman partners,
- and if needed to produce children for their respective families - then it would be easier to organize within this open minded facade family structure
Almost ALL of the conservative Vietnamese that I told this to - were like WOW - now how do I find an open minded lesbian?
None of them knew of any lesbian bars, or apps where lesbians can meet.  Is there a lesbian life in Vietnam?  Thailand ?
They all envied the openness of Thai society - as the gay Vietnamese community was very interested in the Thai government's idea to legalize same sex marriages.
I digressed - too much free time as a retiree....
For 4 hands massages - I used this massage shop = "Spa 4 some" which is located at:  43 Tân Thái 6, Mân Thái, Sơn Trà, Đà Nẵng, Vietnam
The contact details for this unique massage shop are:
  local phone number: 0363 640 356
WhatsApp number:  +84363640356
email:  bkhanhkaka@gmail.com
The owner, (I do not remember his name) is very nice and he contacted me via Grindr and proposed his massage shop to me.  Normally I don't frequent massage shops as I like to order in - and since this was difficult to arrange for the above stated reasons, I agreed to go to his shop.  He has 6 guys that he works with and he arranged for me to have 2 of them (site unseen - as I wanted a surprise) for my 4 hands 90 minute meeting for a charge of 1.400.000 VND - approximately 2.000 baht - 50% of the price that I normally pay back in Thailand - so, Vietnam is so much cheaper because of the poorly performing VND (Dong) currency.
The meeting was very good - professional 4 hands massage with a nice smooth transition into the elongated happy ending phase - I was a very happy customer.
Lastly, the local guys in the chats use a slightly different mechanism to identify that they are for hire:
 - the most frequent one is CB or CallBoy or Call Boy - for our Thai equivalent of MB - Money Boy
- for massage - they tend to use variations of Massa or Mass or some other iteration
You will figure it all out as each country has its hidden secrets to discover :>) which is the joy of why we like to travel and discover.

I just returned from 12 days in Da Nang, Vietnam - as I needed to escape Thailand's Songkran water splashing madness.
I LOVE Da Nang - a mid size city right on the South China Sea with little to no pollution as the winds from the sea keep things fresh.
I live in Jomtien, Thailand and I found that Da Nang from a financial point of view to be between 20% to 30% cheaper than what things cost in the Pattaya area - I believe that is because the VND - Vietnamese Dong currency is not doing well at the moment.
I hired a local gay guide to show me around and he was great - DM me if you want more info about him.  No sex - but a great kind guy who has his own car and could take me out of Da Nang to nearby Hue (to see the imperial city), Hoi An where we went to the nearby off-shore island of Cham to do snorkeling and on return to Hoi An proper we visited the unique coconut island water farm in those typical round circular Vietnamese boats (this was one of the highlights for me on this trip to Da Nang).
The other thing that I did was rent a motorbike for several days and I just LOVED driving out of Da Nang up into the surrounding hills where you have an amazing view of all of the beaches and the Da Nang city skyline off in the distance.
Da Nang has 1 gay bar = https://www.facebook.com/qbardanang1
I did not visit it as I was too busy touring around and getting my daily massages in my lovely 22nd floor AirBnB that overlooked the entire South China Sea.  
To meet guys, the number ONE app is BLUED - now renamed to HeeSay.  Hornet is not big in Vietnam like it is in Thailand.  and then there is Grindr (which I hate).
Just from the HeeSay app alone - I received over 300 messages in 12 days - truly off the scale - for sex, dates (even for just a romantic walk on the Da Nang seaside), massages, and general queries.
Food was great and my gay tour guide turned me onto a different type of Vietnamese coffee - which is called - Cà Phê Muối = sea salt cream coffee - this is now my MOST favorite Vietnamese coffee.
so, I guess I need to do a trip report - how do I hate those - as they are so much work to write a proper one with maps, photos, info, etc. - but I will do it eventually.

I stayed in Jomtien Beach in January this year for 2 weeks.  I was bored after a week.  Can't imagine staying there for 2 months. 
I visited HCMC and Da Nang in March.  HCMC was incredibly busy...7 million motorbikes.  I absolutely loved Da Nang.  Incredible beaches, great food and a few other attractions when beach isn't on the menu for that day.  Definitely will go back.  Stayed at the DLG...was wonderful and perfect location.

I've been to TPE a couple of times...even though I liked it, hook-ups weren't that easy....I'm not into chunky guys, I'm chunky enough for the both of us 🙄

Kuala Lumpur has a lot gay saunas, and there's one gay club that I know of in Bukit Bintang. There used to be a few more but not sure if they are still around after Covid. Plenty of guys on the apps, with most MBs from Indonesia. While homosexuality is illegal in Malaysia, there are quite underground gay communities in different cities, KL & Penang being the liveliest imo.
In Cambodia, I personally prefer Phnom Penh due to the number of gay bars and how friendly the guys at the bars are. Spacebar is my fav.

That  enormous understatement, like saying Antarctic is quite snowy continent

Luang Prabang is nice if you want a slower pace for a few days. Easy to wander around the old town. Some nice places to visit outside of town including Kuang Si waterfall which is one of the most picturesque in the world and some places you can go on the Mekong. It's been several years since I was last there so I don't know about the gay scene but it's a big tourist attraction so I presume there are at least some guys there on the apps.
I think Vientiane has grown quite a bit over the last several years.
Siem Reap is quite interesting from a historic standpoint. Lots to see if you're into that sort of stuff. 
Saigon is big and chaotic but I liked my time there a handful of years ago.
I would not go to Myanmar at this time.
I like Singapore if you haven't been there. Not cheap but I didn't find it outrageously expensive. The most humid, tropical place I've ever been. Some of the most gorgeous men I've ever seen.
Taiwan is great. Taipei is a big metropolis with plenty to see and do. Several gay massage shops if you like those sorts of places. Plenty of info in the appropriate forum.
The Yen is in free-fall so Japan is more affordable than ever, but a bit farther away. I guess the Won is collapsing too so South Korea is in the same boat and a little bit closer to Thailand.

Some of you are overly cautious, but to each their own...
Travel across the world to partake in male prostitution but afraid of some meat on a stick. 🤭

I'm in Tokyo now.
Thanks to all these valuable tips, I had fun this evening.

Used "Independence" as recommended.
You can just send an email. No need to use the elaborate form.

The location was not on a back alley, but just about twenty yards from the train station exit on the street that runs parallel to the train route. Otherwise, Draden's account above of his experience with Independence was identical to mine.
.
I took the ¥ 18,000 option ($115 thanks to the very weak yen) for a one-hour "swap": 30 minutes with one young man, then 30 minutes with a second one. The price is all inclusive and covers the room and all fees. No extra tip is expected.
Both guys were good at kissing and sucking. Both were good bottoms, although one was small and extremely tight.
One looked like his photo. However, the second guy was 6' and looked nothing like the 5'9" Dylan I'd picked, but he did speak fairly good English as was claimed for Dylan. And he was enthusiastic and talented.
I was erroneously thinking that the cost in Tokyo was wildly higher than the cost in São Paulo. But on reflection, that is not true. At Lagoa my total for the entry fee, two rooms, and two garotos could easily be 600 reals ($116, almost exactly the same price I paid in Japan this evening)!
Of course, in Brazil we get to do more preliminary screening — but that does not always guarantee the ace performances I got tonight in Japan. I still prefer Brasileiros and their saunas, but I'm happily surprised that my days in Tokyo will include some good company in bed. 

In case the narrow lanes of Tokyo sound dark and risky to anyone, here is a photo I took last night of the bright, clean side road/walkway viewed from the Family Mart (on your right coming out of the Okubo Station's south exit) looking toward the discreet destination.

In case the narrow lanes of Tokyo sound dark and risky to anyone, here is a photo I took last night of the bright, clean side road/walkway viewed from the Family Mart (on your right coming out of the Okubo Station's south exit) looking toward the discreet destination.

I probably didn't use the correct word. By "alley" I just meant a pedestrian walkway (at least I think it was, I didn't see any cars, but it was dark). 
That might have been the same one I had. 

I'm in Tokyo now.
Thanks to all these valuable tips, I had fun this evening.

Used "Independence" as recommended.
You can just send an email. No need to use the elaborate form.

The location was not on a back alley, but just about twenty yards from the train station exit on the street that runs parallel to the train route. Otherwise, Draden's account above of his experience with Independence was identical to mine.
.
I took the ¥ 18,000 option ($115 thanks to the very weak yen) for a one-hour "swap": 30 minutes with one young man, then 30 minutes with a second one. The price is all inclusive and covers the room and all fees. No extra tip is expected.
Both guys were good at kissing and sucking. Both were good bottoms, although one was small and extremely tight.
One looked like his photo. However, the second guy was 6' and looked nothing like the 5'9" Dylan I'd picked, but he did speak fairly good English as was claimed for Dylan. And he was enthusiastic and talented.
I was erroneously thinking that the cost in Tokyo was wildly higher than the cost in São Paulo. But on reflection, that is not true. At Lagoa my total for the entry fee, two rooms, and two garotos could easily be 600 reals ($116, almost exactly the same price I paid in Japan this evening)!
Of course, in Brazil we get to do more preliminary screening — but that does not always guarantee the ace performances I got tonight in Japan. I still prefer Brasileiros and their saunas, but I'm happily surprised that my days in Tokyo will include some good company in bed. 

I'm in Tokyo now.
Thanks to all these valuable tips, I had fun this evening.

Used "Independence" as recommended.
You can just send an email. No need to use the elaborate form.

The location was not on a back alley, but just about twenty yards from the train station exit on the street that runs parallel to the train route. Otherwise, Draden's account above of his experience with Independence was identical to mine.
.
I took the ¥ 18,000 option ($115 thanks to the very weak yen) for a one-hour "swap": 30 minutes with one young man, then 30 minutes with a second one. The price is all inclusive and covers the room and all fees. No extra tip is expected.
Both guys were good at kissing and sucking. Both were good bottoms, although one was small and extremely tight.
One looked like his photo. However, the second guy was 6' and looked nothing like the 5'9" Dylan I'd picked, but he did speak fairly good English as was claimed for Dylan. And he was enthusiastic and talented.
I was erroneously thinking that the cost in Tokyo was wildly higher than the cost in São Paulo. But on reflection, that is not true. At Lagoa my total for the entry fee, two rooms, and two garotos could easily be 600 reals ($116, almost exactly the same price I paid in Japan this evening)!
Of course, in Brazil we get to do more preliminary screening — but that does not always guarantee the ace performances I got tonight in Japan. I still prefer Brasileiros and their saunas, but I'm happily surprised that my days in Tokyo will include some good company in bed. 

I'm in Tokyo now.
Thanks to all these valuable tips, I had fun this evening.

Used "Independence" as recommended.
You can just send an email. No need to use the elaborate form.

The location was not on a back alley, but just about twenty yards from the train station exit on the street that runs parallel to the train route. Otherwise, Draden's account above of his experience with Independence was identical to mine.
.
I took the ¥ 18,000 option ($115 thanks to the very weak yen) for a one-hour "swap": 30 minutes with one young man, then 30 minutes with a second one. The price is all inclusive and covers the room and all fees. No extra tip is expected.
Both guys were good at kissing and sucking. Both were good bottoms, although one was small and extremely tight.
One looked like his photo. However, the second guy was 6' and looked nothing like the 5'9" Dylan I'd picked, but he did speak fairly good English as was claimed for Dylan. And he was enthusiastic and talented.
I was erroneously thinking that the cost in Tokyo was wildly higher than the cost in São Paulo. But on reflection, that is not true. At Lagoa my total for the entry fee, two rooms, and two garotos could easily be 600 reals ($116, almost exactly the same price I paid in Japan this evening)!
Of course, in Brazil we get to do more preliminary screening — but that does not always guarantee the ace performances I got tonight in Japan. I still prefer Brasileiros and their saunas, but I'm happily surprised that my days in Tokyo will include some good company in bed. 

While Japan does not use RM or Hunqz, they do have many choices when it comes to Massages or Escorts. I usually use these sites for searching (I speak Japanese myself but you can use Google translate for these sites)
 
https://www.gclick.jp/search_list.php?pref=13&genre=7&type[]=6&start=26
The business trip option would be for boys and you can choose the are and type you are looking for. Just be sure when you reach out to check if they accept Foreigners, many will list they do not serve (I'm guessing due to language barriers)

 
https://tokyo-gay.com/index.html
Here is another one!
 
This site is for Massages and they have an English page:
https://gay-massa.com/
 
The shops are also very active on Twitter and you can start here: 
https://twitter.com/tokyo_gaynavi
 
If you are heading there soon, have a great trip!
 

The Tokyo Btms have a nice video of Tokyo Pride just up today