Members Lucky Posted April 21, 2020 Members Share Posted April 21, 2020 So many pundits claim to know just whom Joe Biden needs as a VP candidate, but I a probably the most reliable! (j/k) Anyway, I have concluded that Michelle Obama is the best choice! https://pittsburgh.cbslocal.com/2020/04/20/joe-biden-says-he-would-pick-michelle-obama-to-be-his-vice-president/ JKane 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members JKane Posted April 21, 2020 Members Share Posted April 21, 2020 His fairly tone-deaf assertion his candidate would be a woman was stupid, of course. But I've always been a big fan of Warren. That woman from Michigan would also work pretty well, I think. AdamSmith and Lucky 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TotallyOz Posted April 21, 2020 Share Posted April 21, 2020 I think this would be an amazing ticket. She is brilliant. And, it would piss Trump off to know she was on the ticket. AdamSmith and Lucky 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members RA1 Posted April 22, 2020 Members Share Posted April 22, 2020 18 hours ago, TotallyOz said: I think this would be an amazing ticket. She is brilliant. And, it would piss Trump off to know she was on the ticket. It would piss me off too. Best regards, RA1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members JKane Posted April 22, 2020 Members Share Posted April 22, 2020 1 hour ago, RA1 said: It would piss me off too. Best regards, RA1 Qualified, educated woman of color would piss you off, but a fucking dipshit pretend-billionare game show host con-man you're just fine with. What are her qualifications, you ask? Well, speechwriter for Melanoma Trump, for one. AdamSmith and TotallyOz 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TotallyOz Posted April 22, 2020 Share Posted April 22, 2020 5 hours ago, RA1 said: It would piss me off too. Best regards, RA1 She is more qualified than Trump. Why would it piss you off? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members JKane Posted April 22, 2020 Members Share Posted April 22, 2020 I mean, does everything about Trump's supporters come down to racism? Obviously the answer we need to the pandemic is to shut down immigration, which, in fact, is the answer to everything, right? Unless we're talking about a white prostitute who lied on and violated her visa, with an anchor baby and chain migration of her family--that's First Lady material, because, well, at least she's not black like the last one... Oh and by the way this Christian conservative giant cheated on her with another prostitute and payed hush money with campaign funds. But everybody's white so again, OK. It's OK to gridlock the entrance to a fucking hospital during a pandemic--while waving confederate flags--because you can't currently go to your hairdresser, but NOT ok to take a knee for a moment in protest of clear and documented police brutality... again, it's like there's a difference I'm missing I can't quite put my thumb on that drives this base forward at almost every turn. Ok, ok, it's not just racism. There's misogyny too. TotallyOz and Lucky 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members RA1 Posted April 23, 2020 Members Share Posted April 23, 2020 13 hours ago, TotallyOz said: She is more qualified than Trump. Why would it piss you off? According to JKANE everything about Trump is about racism. Can we not disapprove of someone simply based upon their qualifications? I try to observe MLKj who said judge based upon character not color (in so many words). Mrs. Obama's political experience seems to be that of a neighborhood organizer and first lady. There is the thought that she is racist and does not approve of the USA. I know, perish the thought. Best regards, RA1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Lucky Posted April 23, 2020 Author Members Share Posted April 23, 2020 Michelle Obama shared the White House for 8 years with the president. Not many women available for VP can claim such a close spot in history. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members RA1 Posted April 23, 2020 Members Share Posted April 23, 2020 1 hour ago, Lucky said: Michelle Obama shared the White House for 8 years with the president. Not many women available for VP can claim such a close spot in history. So did the head valet and head housekeeper but that does not make them qualified. I have spent a LOT of time with CEO's and other wealthy folks in the back of my airplane. We talked a lot but that does not make me qualified to be a CEO. Best regards, RA1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AdamSmith Posted April 23, 2020 Share Posted April 23, 2020 16 minutes ago, RA1 said: So did the head valet and head housekeeper but that does not make them qualified. I have spent a LOT of time with CEO's and other wealthy folks in the back of my airplane. We talked a lot but that does not make me qualified to be a CEO. Best regards, RA1 Actually (not to pick too fine a bone ) you were CEO of your own private-aviation enterprise, were you not? Not to link any cause and effect, of course. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members RA1 Posted April 23, 2020 Members Share Posted April 23, 2020 1 minute ago, AdamSmith said: Actually (not to pick too fine a bone ) you were CEO of your own private-aviation enterprise, were you not? Not to link any cause and effect, of course. I was but others did not make me qualified. Assuming that I was. Best regards, RA1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AdamSmith Posted April 23, 2020 Share Posted April 23, 2020 4 minutes ago, RA1 said: I was but others did not make me qualified. Assuming that I was. Best regards, RA1 Granted. But point being that prominent public-facing First Lady position requires considerably more political finesse savvy etc than head toilet-cleaner. Lucky 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members RA1 Posted April 23, 2020 Members Share Posted April 23, 2020 Just now, AdamSmith said: Granted. But point being that prominent public-facing First Lady position requires considerably more finesse savvy etc than head toilet-cleaner. There is no doubt that MS. Obama has or has developed the social graces necessary to be first lady. Does that translate into good politics? I am not so sure. Actually I am pretty sure the answer is NO. Best regards, RA1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members JKane Posted April 23, 2020 Members Share Posted April 23, 2020 7 hours ago, RA1 said: According to JKANE everything about Trump is about racism. Can we not disapprove of someone simply based upon their qualifications? I try to observe MLKj who said judge based upon character not color (in so many words). Mrs. Obama's political experience seems to be that of a neighborhood organizer and first lady. There is the thought that she is racist and does not approve of the USA. I know, perish the thought. Best regards, RA1 The party you de-facto support (while claiming immunity from their most horrific actions because technically you're a "libertarian") has a really low fucking bar here for qualifications given the Trump presidency, most members of his administration, but going back to Sarah Palin. But to answer your question, a FUCK-TON MORE EXPERIENCE, and not just as first lady. Start with Harvard law graduate and dean/teacher, which, would be nice to have somebody who again could speak in a complete sentence about the constitution while not outright lying about it giving them "total authority"... but then... Career Following law school, Obama became an associate at the Chicago office of the law firm Sidley & Austin, where she met her future husband Barack. At the firm, she worked on marketing and intellectual property law.[4] She continues to hold her law license, but as she no longer needs it for her work, she has kept it on a voluntary inactive status since 1993.[74][75] In 1991, she held public sector positions in the Chicago city government as an Assistant to the Mayor, and as Assistant Commissioner of Planning and Development. In 1993, she became Executive Director for the Chicago office of Public Allies, a non-profit organization encouraging young people to work on social issues in nonprofit groups and government agencies.[26] She worked there nearly four years and set fundraising records for the organization that still stood 12 years after she left.[20] Obama later said that she had never been happier in her life prior to working "to build Public Allies".[76] In 1996, Obama served as the Associate Dean of Student Services at the University of Chicago, where she developed the University's Community Service Center.[77] In 2002, she began working for the University of Chicago Hospitals, first as executive director for community affairs and, beginning May 2005, as Vice President for Community and External Affairs.[78] She continued to hold the University of Chicago Hospitals position during the primary campaign of 2008, but cut back to part-time in order to spend time with her daughters as well as work for her husband's election.[79] She subsequently took a leave of absence from her job.[80] According to the couple's 2006 income tax return, her salary was $273,618 from the University of Chicago Hospitals, while her husband had a salary of $157,082 from the United States Senate. The Obamas' total income was $991,296, which included $51,200 she earned as a member of the board of directors of TreeHouse Foods, and investments and royalties from his books.[81] Obama served as a salaried board member of TreeHouse Foods, Inc. (NYSE: THS),[82] a major Wal-Mart supplier from shortly after her husband was seated in the Senate until she cut ties shortly after her husband announced his candidacy for the presidency; he criticized Wal-Mart labor policies at an AFL-CIO forum in Trenton, New Jersey, on May 14, 2007.[83] She also served on the board of directors of the Chicago Council on Global Affairs.[84] AdamSmith and Lucky 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Connery43 Posted April 23, 2020 Members Share Posted April 23, 2020 Thank you for setting the record straight. Michelle has a remarkable resume. Have you ever heard her speak publicly? The words learned, eloquent and commanding come to mind. She would make an incredible VP and an even better President. She is VERY qualified. Interesting that some are quick to discredit her. Might it be for reasons other than her qualifications? JKane, TotallyOz, AdamSmith and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members RA1 Posted April 23, 2020 Members Share Posted April 23, 2020 1 hour ago, JKane said: The party you de-facto support (while claiming immunity from their most horrific actions because technically you're a "libertarian") has a really low fucking bar here for qualifications given the Trump presidency, most members of his administration, but going back to Sarah Palin. But to answer your question, a FUCK-TON MORE EXPERIENCE, and not just as first lady. Start with Harvard law graduate and dean/teacher, which, would be nice to have somebody who again could speak in a complete sentence about the constitution while not outright lying about it giving them "total authority"... but then... Career Following law school, Obama became an associate at the Chicago office of the law firm Sidley & Austin, where she met her future husband Barack. At the firm, she worked on marketing and intellectual property law.[4] She continues to hold her law license, but as she no longer needs it for her work, she has kept it on a voluntary inactive status since 1993.[74][75] In 1991, she held public sector positions in the Chicago city government as an Assistant to the Mayor, and as Assistant Commissioner of Planning and Development. In 1993, she became Executive Director for the Chicago office of Public Allies, a non-profit organization encouraging young people to work on social issues in nonprofit groups and government agencies.[26] She worked there nearly four years and set fundraising records for the organization that still stood 12 years after she left.[20] Obama later said that she had never been happier in her life prior to working "to build Public Allies".[76] In 1996, Obama served as the Associate Dean of Student Services at the University of Chicago, where she developed the University's Community Service Center.[77] In 2002, she began working for the University of Chicago Hospitals, first as executive director for community affairs and, beginning May 2005, as Vice President for Community and External Affairs.[78] She continued to hold the University of Chicago Hospitals position during the primary campaign of 2008, but cut back to part-time in order to spend time with her daughters as well as work for her husband's election.[79] She subsequently took a leave of absence from her job.[80] According to the couple's 2006 income tax return, her salary was $273,618 from the University of Chicago Hospitals, while her husband had a salary of $157,082 from the United States Senate. The Obamas' total income was $991,296, which included $51,200 she earned as a member of the board of directors of TreeHouse Foods, and investments and royalties from his books.[81] Obama served as a salaried board member of TreeHouse Foods, Inc. (NYSE: THS),[82] a major Wal-Mart supplier from shortly after her husband was seated in the Senate until she cut ties shortly after her husband announced his candidacy for the presidency; he criticized Wal-Mart labor policies at an AFL-CIO forum in Trenton, New Jersey, on May 14, 2007.[83] She also served on the board of directors of the Chicago Council on Global Affairs.[84] Nice CV but, as I said, a community organizer. Best regards, RA1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TotallyOz Posted April 24, 2020 Share Posted April 24, 2020 2 hours ago, RA1 said: Nice CV but, as I said, a community organizer. Best regards, RA1 What on Trump's resume prepared him to be President? JKane 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AdamSmith Posted April 24, 2020 Share Posted April 24, 2020 2 hours ago, RA1 said: Nice CV but, as I said, a community organizer. Best regards, RA1 You are a well and long proven commercially successful global private pilot. Your remark about Michelle above is equivalent to someone calling you nothing more than a crop-duster. Lucky and JKane 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members RA1 Posted April 24, 2020 Members Share Posted April 24, 2020 12 hours ago, AdamSmith said: You are a well and long proven commercially successful global private pilot. Your remark about Michelle above is equivalent to someone calling you nothing more than a crop-duster. I have several crop duster friends so don't be insulting. We all have our place or sometimes places in society. One trick might be to not want more but to be accepting. Best regards, RA1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members RA1 Posted April 24, 2020 Members Share Posted April 24, 2020 12 hours ago, TotallyOz said: What on Trump's resume prepared him to be President? Nothing other than he won the election. Best regards, RA1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members JKane Posted April 24, 2020 Members Share Posted April 24, 2020 2 hours ago, RA1 said: Nothing other than he won the election. Best regards, RA1 *With a little help from his friends. But I do believe his greatest accomplishment will be convincing his die-hard (poor choice of words...) followers to disinfect their insides. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Riobard Posted April 24, 2020 Members Share Posted April 24, 2020 12 minutes ago, JKane said: *With a little help from his friends. But I do believe his greatest accomplishment will be convincing his die-hard (poor choice of words...) followers to disinfect their insides. To his credit, I understand he is trying to get onto something ... AdamSmith and Lucky 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TotallyOz Posted April 25, 2020 Share Posted April 25, 2020 On 4/24/2020 at 7:56 PM, RA1 said: Nothing other than he won the election. Best regards, RA1 Thank you for admitting that Mrs. Obama is so much more qualified than Trump was (or is). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AdamSmith Posted April 26, 2020 Share Posted April 26, 2020 On 4/24/2020 at 8:55 AM, RA1 said: One trick might be to not want more but to be accepting. This is a recipe for judging who might be qualified to be a presidential candidate? ...Come to think, pretty much so these days on the Republican side. Your party loyalty is in some bizarre way impressive. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
