Travellerdave

I think trying to forecast future exchange rates is a mug’s game. Z909 has said it all. Mind you if you are really worried you could buy Swiss francs, which are the world’s strongest currency with their government struggling to hold the value down. Mind you there would be the extra cost pounds> francs > baht.

Yes I’ve stayed at the Poseidon and can echo ggobkk in his praise of the place. The only draw back for me is the lack of a pool, as I like a bit of excercise when on holiday and swimming is ideal. The Poseidon has a rather interesting tiny indoor one with a pumped water flow which you can swim against but I didn’t find it a practical solution. So when staying Jomtien I’ve switched to the Agate and more recently the Zing, despite preferring to stay at a 100% gay hotel, which The Posiedon is. When coming into contact with hetro guests in mixed hotels, couples and families, especially around pools, I do maintain a sense of decoram when with young boyfriends such as not holding hands, kissing or sharing a sun lounger.

I never take my passport with me when I go out and about in Pattaya. It stays in the room safe together with the bulk,of my money, baht and pounds. Instead I carry a copy of the photo page and of the visa waiver in my wallet. I’m told that this normally satisfies the police,if necessary. In the wallet I also carry a condom and sachet of lube, and around 5000 baht. I have an iPhone with a UK SIM card and also a small compact old phone with an Thai SIM card that I carry around. This number I will give sometimes to boys rather than the former. It cost me 500 baht so no great loss if I loose it, which is always possible as I’m getting more absent minded as I grow older.

Recalling my experience in Pattaya for 3 weeks recently in July (very much low season) the tip range I paid was 1800 to 2100 long time which comprised the majority of my liaisons. Mostly boys from bars/gogos 1200 to 1450 short time. Three if I remember correctly. All From GR. No off fee of course. Looking a Vessey’s tip range. I would be sure to go to 3000 LT if I had to, for a boy I had hots for and he performed well in bed. Also you have to factor in the cost of boy drinks for those from the bars. If you keep them for 2 + days there is the possibility of a tip “discount”, but on the other hand, you may feel inclined to buy them presents for the “boyfriend experience”

the Poseidon and maybe the Venue can be described as Gay Hotels, with Zing and Agate being only gay friendly. I recently stayed at Zing and encountered no problems, bring back boys. I had a pool side room with a separate sitting area which was very nice. The pool is of a reasonable size for excercise swimming, which is not the case at the Agate, and I had a boy with me on several occasions whilst sitting there as did several others with their Thai boyfriends.

Obviously condom use is essential for anal sex. I always take a supply of strong ones usually the Pasant brand. When I first went to Pattaya nearly 20 years ago I fucked a lot of boys without - I got away with it but many haven’t !. Be careful for example when waking up in the night with a boy and being under the influence of alcohol. Thorough washing of the cock and anal area I believe to be important. When oral is contemplated I use mouthwash before and after, although I’m not sure how effective that is. Also don’t brush your teeth for a few hours afterwards. I think most gays use propection for anal but not for oral.

One of the best books I have read which covers, amongst other topics, relationships between Thais and foreigners is ‘Honorary Consul Pattaya” by Barry Kenyon, who represented the British Government in Pattaya. In this capacity he helped the many Brits in trouble in all sorts of ways over a number of years. He hit the headlines a couple of years being one of the expats arrested by the Thai police for playing bridge and belonging to “The Pattaya Bridge Club”. An event which evoked derision all over the world.

Very true Vinapu !. After visiting Thailand, Pattaya in particular over the last 20 years I am very aware of the pitfalls and dangers of relationships with Thais. In my case boys providing sexual services to gay Western men. In recent years these relationships have been short term non -emotional but I have had Thai boyfriends on a more long term basis in the past. We all know about the importance of “Face” to Thais and also the saying “Money Number 1”. Recalling one stormy relationship I wonder if I was in danger of ending up like Mr Smith in the Bangkok morgue.

Yes I’m well versed in the pros and cons of online boys, which you have listed. I’ve had quite a few over the years. A few years ago I used to make contact and meet them on Dongtan Gay Beach. That way I could appraise them before making the final commitment and taking them back to the hotel or maybe to an ST room, or even on two occasions to the Sansuck for sex in the dark maze. I’ve been here a week now and I did get a further boy from GR after the one I described with the very big cock, without the logistical problems I described.

Of course twinks are available online but it’s often difficult to get a good description and make the arrangements. Yesterday at about 10.00 am I did a search and found 3 boys online of interest to me and sent brief messages what I was looking for and where I was located. The first replied saying that he was now in Bangkok but he had not changed this in GR. The second asked me to send him a naked photo which I didn’t do. With The third I made progress and got his telephone number but I couldn’t understand him and he couldn’t understand me, but it appeared that he could read my messages, however as many of you will know, there is a delay of a couple of minutes so a 14 message exchange took a while. He repeated several questions as to my location and I asked him three times if he was a top, which he eventually confirmed. The final one said that he was coming and gave his time of arrival. However he did not appear at my room so I phoned getting a reply that he was outside on the Soi. At last we were in the room and I wasn’t disappointed in his appearance which was more attractive and twinky than his GR pictures. However I was startled by the size of his cock - very big and thick, whereas on GR he did not say that. We had a good session with excellent sucking and rimming. I did take his cock but when he tried to fuck me the pain was not good and we finished with mutual chuck wow. The lengthy preliminaries will deter me from taking boys from GR despite the much lower cost.

I too visited Sunee last night. I had not intended to as the Complex bars were in my plan, but when I arrived about 8.30 it was extremely quiet as a thunderstorm had recently caused disruption and customers were thin on the ground. So I took a baht bus to Soi VC and then then walked to Sunee and quickly located Winner Boys, my favourite Gogo during previous trips. The place was not busy but on stage was about 10 boys of whom 3 were in the twink category. After a couple of minutes of hestitation I invited one to sit with me with offing in mind. 10 minutes of kissing and fondling was enough to convince me that I had found my companion for the night. He was 20 years old with a tight body and very firm buttocks. I avoid multiple passenger motor bike rides, but that one was moderately ridden and we got back to the Complex finding it busier. My boy met up with a previous Winner employee but I turned down the suggested 3 some (I’m getting too old for that malarkey). In bed he was eager to please and I appreciated very much his rimming skills, and especially his rock hard cock when he topped me. I reciprocated in the morning and this pleased me a lot when I topped him to completion, wearing a condom of course. All in all a great night to remember and to savour as I type this report. I gave him 2000 when he left in the morning. Sunee is not dead yet !.

It’s not necessary to have a Facebook presence when Winner gets excellent publicity like this thread. I suspect most gay sex tourists like myself will be familiar with this site and will have noticed the attractions of Winner. When in Sunee it would be difficult not to find Winner, whereas when I first discovered Pattaya 18 years ago, the Soi was crowded with bars and Gogo’s.

Finnseventy - you are a very bad man for taunting us twink lovers in that way !. I’m due in Jomtien next week !. Those pictures were taken perhaps early afternoon, judging from the absence of shadows, when everyone was at the beach ? The advice from Vessey and Vinapu is spot on. I was there last in February and had a good time,

Stunning twink boys !!. I will be there next week.

yes You never know what you will find when you enter a Gogo and whether your specification for a boy for your bed will be met. Being a twink lover the bar which had a consistent supply was Cupidol but that was maybe two years ago and during my last couple of trips I found nothing there to wet my appetite. I will certainly be visiting Dream Boys during my forthcoming trip.

I very much dislike entering a Gogo and finding I’m the only customer. When that happens I’m reluctant to immediately leave as I’m a rather polite sort of person. The boys then commence a shuffle having reluctantly put down their phones. Occasionally my presence tempts encourages more to enter and a more positive atmosphere develops.Better that Kawai Boys closes and the business is more concentrated in the remaining gogo’s.

Just pack your suitcases, go there and force yourself to have fun ! Well Vinapu I’m going to do just that during my next trip due in three weeks, although I’m sure that “force” will not be required. As to long time difficulty I’m hopefull that I will be able to tempt twinky boys into my bed for that period, by a suitable disbursement of what they like, which is baht.

I also have tried uploading pictures and received the fault message.

I’m due in Pattaya in three weeks and am contemplating making a hotel reservation. Last time I stayed in the Zing Resort in the Complex and have checked their website and booking.com with a view to doing the same this time. Both have very good deals but there is mention of noise from building work. Does any member have recent experience of staying there ?. I want to stay in the Complex in a gay friendly hotel, without a lot of tour party guests, so I suppose another option would be the Agate. Also what’s the bar scene like there. I’m into twinks.

As to Amyl it’s occasionally offered for sale on GR. Also it sometimes can be bought on Dongtan Gay Beach by Thais hawking it around in their palm of hand. Why not take it with you disguised as something else ? Pattaya not good for muscle boys BKK for them as above. Pats for twinks.

What is the connection between Taksin and Sunee’s glory days ?. I do agree with those dates Boy69. My first trip was in 2002 when I fell in love with Pattaya.

Nice to hear that Sunee is not finished yet, which I thought would soon be the case following recent reports. During my early trips to Pattaya commencing 2002 it’s where I had most fun and found the most boys to share my bed. In fact I stayed a few times in the Elephant Guesthouse there. Talking about long time which I prefer mostly because I love sex in the morning when I’m more relaxed and when I can summon up a nice hard erection.

That’s interesting !. I remember that Oscars used to sell sexy stuff from an upstairs room several years ago but I think the venture fell by the wayside.

I only know one other gay who has been taking Prep who tells me that he has not experienced these negative side effects after two months usage, although they are warned about on websites and in the written instructions. Obviously experience will vary. I’m going to purchase a supply online in preparation for my July trip to Pattaya and hope that I escape the unpleasant side effects. My latest HIV test was negative so I think it’s worth a try. I don’t intend to dispense with condoms but I’m mainly bottom and sometimes it’s difficult to make sure boys put and keep them on.

It seems that taking PrEP would be wise precaution for gays going to Thailand with a view to having sex with multiple boys. Although to dispensing with condoms (tempting for some)!would bring with it the substantial risk of the other sexually transmitted diseases.