Travellerdave

I Stayed there in September and intend to do so during my next trip. I had a very good experience. It’s very comfortable and the breakfast is great also very convenient for the gay bars in the Complex. Being low season there were not many other guests - a mixtures of gays and their Thai boys and hetros. It’s not 100 percent gay but there was no tour parties staying. Much quieter than staying in Boystown.

I usually work out at Tonys on Third Road near the junction with South Pattaya Road. This is the largest gym in Pattaya with an extensive range of weights / aerobic machines and it has a fairly large swimming pool. There are two facilities on each side of the road. Long term memberships are good value but for periods less than one month it’s rather expensive.

Long time ago before I discovered Thailand and Pattaya I spent my holidays in gay European resorts, principally Playa del Ingles. I dedicated most of the daylight hours to turning my white Northern European body a deep shade of brown by lying on the beach there. I believed, not without justification, that this made me more attractive to other gay men. I liked to excentuate the brown by wearing thongs to produce tan lines. When in Pattaya I hide from the fierce sun under the beach umbrellas and walk around taking advantage of any shade, as do the majority of the Thais, unless their work prevents this. When I go home my skin is hardly any different shade to how it was on arrival. However I very much like brown skinned boys and find the contrast with white bed sheets most attractive. On the beach or at the pool, white speedos and their brown skin are very nice. Returning to the theme of this thread, Cambodian boys are great. I offed several from the bars in the Complex.

During my regular trips to Pattaya I prefer to have boys with me long time so I very much endorse the procedure described earlier by Vessey. In fact for me to sleep alone would be a little bit unusual. I find I’m most horny when waking up which is often early say 6 am, having gone to bed about midnight. If you look at my posts regarding hotels you will sometimes read complaints about noise, particularly at the Ambience. Many boys are not morning people so they can be slow to response to my demands for sex at that time. I’m versatile but in the morning I’m top, whereas at night it’s kissing and sucking.

These arguments have been going on for many years before Internet forums in fact. I remember during my first trip to Pattaya in 2002 being chastised when in a Sunee host bar when asked how much I was paying a boy for a long time off. When I replied 800 he said that it was far too much and that I was spoiling the boys. This was when I was getting about 70 baht for a £ !.

Although I often do short time My preference is to off the boy at about midnight and to have him in bed with me until about 9 or 10 in the morning. I’m versatile but on waking up I’m most definitely top so specifying his time of departure is important. Also I quite enjoy buying them breakfast particularly if they speak some English and very occasionally offering them more money to accompany me to the beach.

Good advice in the last few posts. After oral especially after having cum in my mouth I always use mouthwash, but am not sure whether this does any good. I take one of the very small bottles when going for a massage or visiting a gay sauna such as the Sansuck. As a general rule i would not suck cocks in a bar, but in bed with a boy I love it.

I don’t recall meeting any Vietnamese boys during my recent trip to Pattaya. Many Cambodian and some Laos boys in the Complex Bars, who were mostly good for me in bed. Perhaps Viets tend to work in BKK.

Yes that’s certainly true Vinapu. Hotels in Thailand are great value particularly in Pattaya where competition forces prices down. I stayed at the Agate during part of my September trip and the cost I would estimate was about a third that of an equivalent hotel in the UK, which is expensive partly due to the VAT tax of 20%. Mind you my expenditure on rooms was much less than that on boys. Taking into account visits to the bars, off fees, boys tips, condoms/lube and a few presents it would be something like an average of 4500 baht per day. This is probably twice what I spent when I first visited Pats 16 years ago, and even more in GBP bearing in mind the depreciation in the pound. I would certainly stay at the Agate again but still spend sometime in one of the BT Hotels. It’s very gay friendly rather than 100% gay. In addition to a bed (double) of course, working shower and aircon, good reliable broadband is important.

I visited Winner several times during my last trip 4-7 weeks ago. If number 23 had been there I would have tried to off him - he looks just my type, but I dont recall seeing him. However the two twinkly boys I did off on two separate nights gave full satisfaction. Going there to Sunee was a change from my base in the Complex. The former is very run down and a shadow of what it was when I first discovered Pattaya 16 years ago.

You have a good point there a447a. I would not like to be in the Ambience if there was a fire. It’s rather a maze without one. I remember contacting a boy from GR and on arrival the lobby telephoned me so I told them to send him up. After 5 minutes he had not appeared at my room so I went in search of him and when I found him I got a little lost guiding him.

Of course when discussing the BT hotels the big issue is the noise factor. As has been mentioned the culprit is the karioki from the Le Cafe which goes on until ridiculously late hour. At the Ambiance it’s better to have a high room for this reason. I’ve eventually got used to the layout and I find that sitting outside gives an opportunity to meet other guests and talk about the Pattaya gay scene.

Yes Jomtien Complex is the place to be for twinks. In terms of quantity I found it better than BT or Sunee, although you dont get to,preview the boys as you do in gogos. Cupidol in BT was rather a disappointment during my recent trip, in that the complement of boys were not twinkly enough for me, whereas in March they were just what I like. However as we all know things can change quickly in the Pattaya Bar world.

Biguyby Yes you are certainly right that it hit and miss at the Sansuck. I visited during my recent trip,and left without any significant sexual experience, even though I went upstairs and prowled about. In the past I very much enjoyed a number of visits and the excitement of the cruising areas upstairs. This time I found to much light and too few boys to have encounters with. I loved kissing and feeling in the maze before entering a cubicle.

I have had boys who on entering my room just march up to the fridge and take a beveridge without asking. When I protested saying something like 'hey that water costs me 80 baht" they act suprised thinking that the mini bar is free. Some boys you have to watch so as to make sure they don't remove a hand towel which would of course go on my account. Of course them removing the small complementary items in the bathroom is not something that concerns me, but removing a nearly full tube of lube did annoy me once. I have to say however that these "offences" Are not for me a regular occurance.

Best wishes for your project which will take a effort to organise. If I was in Pats I would make the investment and see how I turned out, although at my age I fear that a lack of stamina would reduce the potential pleasure. 10 years ago with a gay friend we took 3 boys back to our condo for a party. This was memorable but your project is a step up in scale. If you get it off the ground I'm sure everyone would enjoy a report.

For me the lack of alcohol on the beach would be not a problem at all. During my recent trip I tried to reduce my consumption so my daytime drink was tea and the Thai word was part of my limited vocabulary - "Cha Lawn". Unlike most of my utterances this always produced the desired beverage. Sitting on the beach in nice weather with a cooling breeze under a concession umbrella drinking a large cup of tea was one of the nicer experiences of my holiday. The lack of shade on Wednesdays and Thursdays and the absence of boys to flirt with, was a definite minus however. One day I watched a gang of workers cleaning the beach. They removed large amounts of plastic and other debris. The general view was that Jomtien was less polluted than the Pattaya one, but I've never seen any evidence to back this up. I have swam in the sea at Dongtan over the years without ill effects but maybe I've just been lucky. The same luck maybe when I topped Boys bareback during my first couple of Pattaya trips 17 years ago, and remained healthy.

Prior to my recent trip I've nearly always stayed in gay hotels in BT or Sunee, more often than not at the Ambiance. However this time I stayed mostly at the Agate in Jomtien. The gay scene seems to have gravitated there in recent times and whilst there are no gogos, there are a multitude of boys of the type I prefer I.e. twinks. As has been pointed out already, transport from BT and Sunee is not a problem particularly if you are ok with walking and motor bikes. I offed a boy twice longtime from Winner Boys and returned to the Agate by bike. However I didn't take up his suggestion of the both of us on the same bike. I would not even consider the Holiday Inn, as I am very much the gay sex tourist. In the distant past I have tried non-gay hotels but I'm rather sensitive to the stares and whispered comments from other guests.

Wish something could be done to attract the boys back to Dongtan gay beach to entertain us !. A few years ago they used to appear in the afternoons and decorate the place with their brown slim bodies in small tight speedos. Some playing volley ball. Some available for a liaison.

I regard the decision to off a boy as an big investment of my time and money. My offs are usually long time so it's important for me to ascertain that he will perform in bed in the ways that give me pleasure. Kissing is an essential preliminary so I try to check this out in the bar . Some boys resist my tongue in their mouth so that would be a negative mark. I am versatile I like being topped so a feel of his cock is necessary. Not too big !. Them cumming too soon is a disappointment but you can't get an answer about that pre off. Yes checking them like you would any purchase is sensible to reduce the chance of disappointment. During my recent visit to Pattaya - 18 days with 12 separate boys, mostly from Jomtien, I only had two unsatisfactory offs.

The closing of the concessions is a stupid decision by the authorities. Laying or sitting on the beach unprotected by the shade provided by the umbrellas is not wise and only appeals to a small minority. Thus on Wednesdays and Thursdays the beaches attract only a very few sun worshippers. This certainly increases the advantage of staying in a hotel with a pool such as the Agate in Jomtien or the Sansuck. Like all Thais the boys in Pattaya don't like the sun and always try and protect their skin against its rays. Over the years I've sometimes had the pleasure of a boy in small tight speedos sat with me on the beach (normally Dongtan gay beach) or a pool, especially if their skin is a nice golden brown. Although very often the invitation to do this with me involves an extra tip.

I've stayed at the Agate recently. No tour groups were there during my visit. It is not a gay hotel but in the friendly category. There are two pools but both are rather small. In February I stayed at the Poseidon. A tiny indoor pool with a flow of pumped water - a rather novel facility. It appeared to 100% gay. Of the two I much preferred the Agate Both of these appeared to be more expensive than Zing.

Pattaya is very much a nighttime place. During the day (say 4am to 6 pm) the entertainment areas are quiet and in effect sleeping. The best plan is to fall into line with this reality and conserve energy for when the town wakes up. My daytime scedule is often as follows; 9am say goodbye to my overnight boyfriend. Have a liesurely breakfast and then have some form of physical activity often gym or a swim. I like to sit on the beach reading a book or newspapers downloaded on my iPad observing the beach scene. Perhaps get into conversation with another chair occupant (on Dongtan this is likely to be a fellow gay sex tourist ). Later I retreat back to the hotel and try to sleep for a couple of hours. I have had massages but don't value the therapeutic part and sex on the massage table is usually very inferior to that when being in a large bed with a nice twinkly boy. Of course there is Planet Romeo, but the drawback is often arranging the date with poor English speakers and Thai boy's lack of geographic knowledge. One Jomtien boy I contacted with GR had no idea where BT was and how to get there. No the best routine is to relax and recover during the daytime in preparation for a night of fun and sex after acquiring you latest boyfriend.

The Agate is certainly a quality hotel for a very reasonable price. Very comfortable rooms and a great breakfast served with a smile. They have made an effort with the decor with floors consisting of colourful tiles and there were works of art at intervals throughout the hotel. I sat by the larger of the two pools but it is not big enough for excercise swimming and the so-called fitness area is practically non-existent. The two welcome non-alcoholic drinks were really delicious. Of course for gays the proximity of the bars is a major reason to stay there and whilst it is not a 100%'gay hotel it certainly is very friendly. I will henceforth take glowing testimonials on tripadviser with a pinch of salt. They offered an inducement of a free drink for a favourable one.

I've only travelled once with a boy and that was a short trip to Koh Samet only a couple of hours from Pattaya. It was some years ago when I had longer stay of 6 weeks. I rented a condo for a month, staying in the Ambience for the first 2 weeks. After a week,or so sharing my bed with a procession of boys I became attached to one that I offed for several nights. Moving to the condo I decided to settle down and did a deal with the Sunee gogo for him to stay with me for a week. I liked him and enjoyed buying him presents and nice meals - I became his daddy. Deciding on a trip away from Pats I booked a 3 day to Ko Samet. Beautiful place but it didn't work out - he was bored and I was very conscious of the disapproving looks from other visitors at the bungalow complex and on the beach. We stood out like a sore thumb - me and a 20 year old. I was pleased when the time came to take the ferry and bus back to base. I wouldn't do it again especially if the trip was longer than my short one.