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yes we are talking about different guys

it's about models only, I never observed excessive tipping of floor guys there. I think both you and jason are right, some tips are from devoted and somewhat heated clients, often Asian girls and some are staged to create a momentum for more tipping. Those garlands is wasting money as bar keeps 250 out of 1000 client pays for it. Better to do your own if one has urge to hang garland on the guy but why not to tip him 1000 discretely ? I guess difference in culture and some want to show off that their money knows no bounds

everybody wants best price and they won't know what market bears until they ask. It works in reverse, customer will not know how low guy can go until he offers low and see reaction

actually many claim they are freelancers so they are not paid other than for show participation and cut on drink price . As for tips from customers it may be lottery specially for less popular and less endowed guys. Reaction of one New twilight guy on his 100 tip he received from one of our members showed that it was feast not seen for quite a while as he showed it to his friends and was kind of applauded.

sometimes even in great detail but only between themselves. When comes o to other customers they are surprisingly discreet. I offed few guys recommended by other members or who saw me with other members and never ever they commented on other party other than neutral "your friend ABC is nice guy" , " I did not seem your friend for a while " etc I recall only one exception from few years ago ( member no longer ) " you like kiss and cuddle , your friend likes fuck right away" but even that will not even point who fucks whom. When talk about our tips to their friends , not always they are sincere. I had cases when they either understated or overstated for some reason tips received. But often when I ask a boy what he expects answer is "the same you gave XYZ" so you better have an explanation is planning on differentiating compensation in the same bar. Butterflying has own advantages

Scene no but THE LOOK quite possibly yes. After off , particularly more than once, boy may consider you as customer who owes him off every time he enters his bar. If he moves bars and you happen to be in his new place , same, same. While rarely it will lead to anything nasty you may see him planting beside you uninvited, ordering drink before you were even consulted , in short acting like next off is sure thing in cards so we need to thread carefully not to inject any sense of loyalty unless we wish to. I found that playing diplomatic games won't work but blunt approach 'I will not off you tonight", " I came today to off XXX " , "I'm not offing anybody " works the best

We really don't know until we actually ask and answers may be surprising. I know very bigoted and racist lady , mother of 2 and grandmother of 6 who is all for gay marriage. When I asked her why answer was ' It's coming sooner or later anyways so let them have it" Then there's my former neighbor, gay men not that happily married to another guy who is firmly against gay marriage saying 'with gay marriage comes gay divorce so better not repeat my mistake" And my close friend since 1974 whom I recently discovered to be firm Putin supporter in war against Ukraine, possibly shock of my life.

# me too and only as emergency service or to spy on familiar faces ( I noticed waiter who was serving me in restaurant day before and well as receptionist in my hotel ) It seems that if you are not in place you are checking in you can't sent a guy message on that version

or during their walkabout slip him 100 baht, chances are he will smile at you broadly and when he will be on the stage you can motion him to come and sit with you or he may even approach area you are sitting hoping for the same. I usually avoid mamasan help in any bar if only I can help myself keep in mind that if boy has no number it may mean he is not available and is already reserved but yes , that should be confirmed too

yes, but those places are only shades of former glory while Foodland Patpong is still alive and kicking , specially now when it was awarded World Heritage badge by UNESCO to which this board members were instrumental , LOL

in Pattaya I still know about two One is just past TukCom - look for exchange booth, another one in soi Post Office. Used first two times 3 weeks ago when had problems with accessing e-mail

aren't you supposed to be tired after work?

Jomtien Complex has about 20 of them one beside other under one roof. There's Pickety in Boyztown proper , right opposite of BoyzBoyzBoyz beside Castro show bar. And I believe Euro Boys in Sunee Plaza but there are better Pattaya experts here than HN* me *Humble Nobody

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off yes, he always complains that I never offed him so obviously he is available and longs for my business, what makes you thinking you don't have a chance if I do ? As for karaoke, ask him if he likes an idea as my experience with boys taken to places is , they not always are fascinated by what we are. Why you would be dragging such good looking guy to karaoke instead right to the room via perhaps restaurant is mystery for me but what old KFC man knows about you youngsters ?

glad to learn that I'm such an exception on both counts. With one exception I spent much more time in Bkk than Pattaya ( last trip ratio of nights 16:4 ). Main reason I like Bangkok better is daytime activities, I'm not a bitch (beach? ) person and don't like much of the sea because I find water too wet so during day in Pattaya I kind of struggle to find suitable activities while in Bangkock just strolling down the street provides an entertainment and eye candy to no end not to mention wats , parks, palaces and at the top -cruise along Chao Praya river. Z909 is right , budget goes further in Pattaya both on the flesh pleasures and hotels. Bangkok has more hunks for me to chase but Pattaya share is usually sufficient . What bothers me at times is compactness of the scene, you off one guy and next day you get a LOOK from guy you offed day before. I did not notice any differences in attitude or friendliness, there are great guys in both places with occasional dud thrown to raise blood pressure As for food, Bangkok and Bangkok only has 7 1/2 stars Foodland Patpong. I have forum friends in both places and glad to meet them anytime I'm there if only our timing will align, last trip missed Gaybutton and Biguyby in Pattaya and Christian PFC in Bangkok. For me both places are like tea and coffee, some like this , others that, many drink both in different times of day, no right or wrong

both are offable like all staff in that bar although behind the counter guys may be available only after hours

I'm sure you will like new roof

obviously not since they are still throwing that insult at me with abundance

like Red Planet with room of similar size to Quarters. modern and well maintained

not that you care but from all boy places in Bangkok I like soi 4 the least with sole exception of G'Bangkok German restaurant and even this perhaps because it's at soi's mouth so no need to go deeper.

ok, ok, I gave up , lol

and Hot Male host bar downstairs runs second

and promptly report your findings please

they may be ordered by managament to join if client is well paying regular. Years ago I had similar case in Tawan, boy abandoning me to drink with another guy