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was political from beginning as soon as doctor who warned about it was silenced. Both sides of debate are to be blamed. I recall when Russians announced they had a vaccine it was criticized as inferior and not working before any results would come. Then Trumps, Bolsonaros, Magulfis and sores of others came denying danger to a great joy of thier supporters. Djokovic saga is just chapter 1157 of the same story with Serbia's antics of recalling ambassador etc. You right that world went CRAZY over that and logic with cool head seem to be in short supply.

even at 1000 most likely you have a point, on another hand good to know that Japan is not that expensive and cheap rooms can be had there on third hand still in February I rather be in Bangkok than Tokyo , no matter prices

since English is not my first language it was new word for me and I rushed to my Webster to check if I should be offended right away or only after following Monday but no, now I understand. I'm glad that some hearts beat faster reading my 'prose" as I was the same for almost 2 years, waiting for first hand reports about boys, bars and massages not closures , covids, quarantines and tests i.e subjects we don't like to hear about but can't escape them either in those times.

even at 2000 , it's still only 60 USD, in 3 weeks vacation difference becomes kind of substantial . It's good news that 1 hr. service time means exactly 60 minutes in Japan which is not necessary a case in BKK but it also means that any extension will involve paying up which is Ok but also another round of time watching which may act like fun strangler. Just a thought , not trying to dispute your findings. Then comes generally much higher cost of vacationing in Japan which not always means higher standard i.e, accommodation where rooms are often size of postcard I was told. I'm surprised to hear about summer heat there but it must be truth as I heard the same from somebody who worked few years in both cities and the same about Taipei from Taiwanese who worked in Bangkok. Vagaries of climate I guess , after all world's coldest capital is not northernmost Reykjavik , not even Stockholm or Helsinki but Ulan Bataar ( Mongolia). Few days stopover as sampler is always good idea but for cheapest ticket holders it may mean much higher airfare costs so it must be weighted on too.

Perhaps this is why he came to work in Thailand in the first place.

for now some Moonlight models can be seen daily at HotMale, usually 3-5 a night. For MahaNakhon try to pick up day with good visibility and go early, they open at 10am. If you not senior remember weekdays are cheaper then weekends ( 530 as opposite to 880 ). Take your boy with you but only if he expresses desire to go there, otherwise they may be scared / bored / disgusted at you spending that much money on the ticket.

we could utilize some pictures

aren't you planning trip soon?

not from fast acting us and few others lie z909 and newscene

so it looks the we recommended to each other our Prince Charming and it worked. Another benefit of being forum friends, right?

Christmas again? that soon?

Thai Pass was free, somebody already answered , I did not notice

finally voice of reason

looking at my depleted ( but not exhausted for lack of time ) travel fund I'd say not glimmers but strong rays of light

rightly so, you right about opportunities , I was nicely surprised myself how easy it was to be entertained by qualified staff. All we need is open gates

There must be something to it, two out three best boys I met last trip were Cambodians

have a nice trip and report how it worked for you

# me too

you got that right !

Final notes. Travelling in covid time is nerve wrecking due to multitude of regulations , not coordinated from country to country and from airline to airline but at end of day it proved doable. I’m glad I stick to my plan of jumping on earliest occasion as soon as quarantine will be cancelled. This did not happen but “Test and Go ‘ option seemed reasonable so when I learned it’s available it was no brainer to gather paperwork and apply. My Thai Pass came in exactly 7 days, 2 weeks later I was on my way. Mandatory tests and insurance raised prices but on another hand very good deals on accommodation mitigated that expense. I doubt in future I will be able to sleep in hotels and rooms I was utilizing this trip. Me and Crowne Plaza ? even few forum friends were surprised. I liked it even if really I don’t need fancy accommodations but if price is right, why not ?. Doom and gloom of some on forums proved exaggeration. Yes, bars were closed as well as many massager places but what was opened was good enough to keep me occupied and spending whenever I wanted. Line and apps helped. It was actually first time ever I used apps. Can’t say it was very successful but with more practice and more experience navigation of them may be more fruitful. One thing is sure , few guys I met had their profiles on apps and I must say almost universally I wouldn’t take them if I only saw them there. N, Ah-Poo, V, Soviet they all looked better in flesh. It’s why I like massages and bars better and always will because I can see real thing. I doubt you read those long reports with much attention to details but if you did you could notice one notable absence – covid itself. In those 25 days it was never really on my radar. Yes I wore mask like whole Thailand. If I spot 30 people without mask on the street in those 25 days , that’s it . I thought it will be annoying in that heat but actually was unnoticeably bearable. I have more problem at home in winter with constant fogging of my glasses . Wherever they measured temperature I placed my hand too but it was all like ritual, not a preventive measure. No restaurant bothered to check vaccination certificate and Zing was only hotel which asked for it. Accidentally it was also only hotel which asked my guest for ID. No problems with visitors I the room but dearth of foreign visitors was visible plainly and everywhere. Phor Liang Meun and Crowne Plaza were only hotels where there was some kind of crowd but even there ‘crowd’ was exaggeration. Thais now have country to themselves for good and bad . Unfortunately mostly bad. Closed and quiet Walking Street , Boyztown or Patpong are shocking views indeed. Even Silom , Suriwong and Sukhumvit are far from themselves in more normal times so economic devastation must be enormous. Foodland Patpong in lunch time was sometimes plain empty , so were malls and area around Grand Palace. Not even once I saw crowded BTS train. Those were things which I should enjoy but in fact made me sad as I was thinking about all those people who lost their earnings or had them greatly reduced. But boys are holding up . I never really heard complains , from time to time they ritually mentioned lack of customers but somehow managed to find other jobs, never before I heard from so many guys that they work also somewhere else. I did not notice notable reduction on tip expectations, neither bars reduced their prices with notable exception of Jupiter but even them raised prices for Christmas and New Year period. What was easier was to find guys willing to do long time, that may be positive covid effect but also possibly just my good luck or coincidence. I have pleasure to meet few forum member past and present,10tazione, Z909, Gaybutton , Aussie_, Newscene, ChristianPFC, 18past49, Anddy . Thank you for your time, in few cases introducing me to their friends and in impossible to underestimate case of 18past19 - leaving me few leads to guys he could issue personal recommendation for like V and above all X. Few people asked me which guy I liked the most. Hard question. S, the smartphone guy definitely sensed the best what makes me happy, N was crown of Pattaya stay and 5 nights with him were most passionate and steamy, T, T2 and X were three best built and for me , fond of manly muscular guys they were exactly made of my dreams. T was most offed by far and organized two memorable parties in his shop but failed to keep his promise on 2 occasions, T2 was most clingy out those three heroes of my dreams, muscles and not only were made of steel but was shorter than me , cooling factor in my book. X was hunk made of dreams and muscles , I had best conversation with him and service wise he was most professional knowing exactly what he is there for but also most costly but I knew what I’m getting into in this respect. And there were few guys I met only once who warranted multiple offs – sexy and talkative Soviet, funny and even more talkative M and quiet, manly but clingy V. Hard choice indeed so I need to go with one more trait – personality and here ranking become more clear so gold medal in competition ‘ Guy of the trip “ goes to X , silver to V and bronze to N. If you surprised take comfort that my ranking surprised me too. Regrets: I should go to Jey Spa more often, threw one more party at Sabaidee , off Gap , twink from Dreamboys from my 2nd night once more and try to off that very straight looking handsome guy from Jupiter. But with nobody to blame for those failures I just register them for curious. One of forum friends also noticed that I did not off at all guys known from previous trips. That’s correct with notable exception of Art in Pattaya. I don’t count Soviet as repeat since he did not recall me and I did not recall him until day or two after we met. No, it was not by design, it just happened, I just swim with the flow . When comes to hotels I don’t have a bad word against any of 11 or 12 I stay at , but I liked the best executive suite at Furama Sathorn, closest to normal flat. Of course for decoration Phor Liang Meun Teracotta Arts in Chiang Mai can’t be beaten. No idea when I will return, I hope it will be soon but until world will make it’s mind what to do with covid my advice , to myself and everybody else is to monitor situation closely and be ready to jump into any openings which will be created. I’m glad I did. thank you for all your 'likes" and contributions to this somewhat long thread

that's paranoia through and trough

another benefit is to make friends with forum members, Out of 3 best guys from this trip 1 was recommended and another one introduced to me by another forum member

Thank you for all your "thank you's", if I ever be sentenced for community service I'll ask judge to account those reports for

I was trying not to get too stingy but in almost if not all cases described above fun came well before my generosity and that mean guys were trying hard before they knew what they will be compensated ....... remember my nephew "battery " rule I mentioned earlier, never deplete to zero , never load to full capacity

present !