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don't be scared or depressed , just go there and you will like it. Never had any problems even taking dark shortcuts by the Hindu/Sikh temple

so when they move we will have all 3 boy bars in Patpong upstairs. Actually I think I like that concept, beer bars on street level and dens of sin level up

so Russia invaded Ukraine to save Ukrainians from themselves soaking in blood them and Russian own soldiers in process instead of letting them to sort out their problems ? Don't you feel sorry for those Russian matushkas ?

I envy you guys , LOL

if you had hots for guy , my answer is yes , as long as you understand you were milked for money in process. If I think about my experiences in similar situations I'd say in most cases was actually worth it , even if in two cases it turned very costly because I kind of got hooked and repeated feast few more times. But you live only once.

you are such optimist, I envy you

why you worry ? That's poor people problem

you never heard about modest bandit ?

not quite twice and they are going down a bit now but yes , they increased steeply.

ignore them politely, do not engage in conversation, do not admit ( where applicable ) it your first time in Thailand or their bar. If they ask you anything, answer briefly without elaborating. If they ask you which boy you want tell them you like girls better. I do this all the time, nobody believes but everybody gets clear signal 'leave me alone". When nothing works stronger statement like ' I'm Ok , I don't need anything " or more sophisticated ' Me no speak English' may work'. In bars with twinks you may also say " I like only big boys like In Tawan", conversly in Tawan tell them you like small boys and if they show you their resident twink tell them he is still too big for you. if you visiting bar with somebody i.e. another forum member tell them you are with boyfriend. Never buy them a drink unless YOU want to. They are not rude , just opportunistic , if they sense we are weak in knees they exploit it. Don't be rude as at some point you may need their help, for translation for example. Then you turn all smiles but only then

he was in May , I happened to be of quite different opinion about him as he helped me few times including one when boy was not so sure he wanted to go with me and he vouched for me I'm good guy ( shock here ! ). But fact is I never used him nor any other mamasan in any bar to negotiate fee neither I asked them what fee should be.

+1

keep knocking and will be opened for you Good Book says

good to have King with sense of humor

now you know why I try to keep all those papasans / mamasans at distance and only allow them to interfere when I need transation. Waiter had no option other than refuse your offer since if he accepted it , papasan would be losing face. I wonder how much of that 3000 had you accepted would go to papasan. My educated guess is 1000. 2000 for short time in Pattaya is still very generous so I'm glad you did not accept that extortionate offer.

like STD ?

we don't have Thailand forum We have Gay Thailand forum. If this was posted there , objections would no doubt arise that quite a few taxi drivers are NOT gay and topic belongs to Beer Bar forum even if apparently there are 3 or 4 taxi drivers in BKK who don't drink beer , at least not on the job

don't cut yourself short !

I have no idea what endoscopy is but I know from people that it's unpleasant, it's why I used that example

what bar they are from , certainly not Tawan ?

yes, right !

Even king deserves his half an hour of pleasure.

for me nothing outside of comfort zone other than endoscopy and filing cavities if any But I hope to travel even more, brave myself to finally completely retire and , for the first time since high school, spend real vacations with my sister as so far either she was vacationing at my house or me at her place, now we want go somewhere together just for fun of it. Oh right, if she opts for Thailand , it will be outside my comfort zone indeed.

blame yourself, you should stay away from his boyfriend

good luck with achieving at least half of it