vinapu

tastes and experiences vary so no recommendation ever be universal

not that anybody would have any doubts

typical case when I can jump with one of my doubtful wisdoms and say to emiel " go and see for yourself"

it did , both in shops and on apps although luckily for me out of three cases of pics not matching , two were actually other way around and guys in flesh looked even more attractive than on pics. on my last trip report I even described case when boy offed from Dreamboys turned out to be one I was following on Grindr but it took a while for me to realize that ( pictire from Grindr was not as much misleading but made him looking much taller than in reality )

it looks you need to visit Senso and Prince, Arena is much less shiny but all other ingredients - hunky boys to inspect and helpful mamasan are there too. Jey Spa may have some boys on duty too, all meeting your specifications ( which happens to be mine too )

that's what victim of crime or bullying often complain about- everybody watched but nobody stepped to help

very sensible not to pursue undertaking of project , impossible even to start. Thinking about next meal seems to be more productive

Churchill was right, nothing destroys morale of fighting nation more than destruction of cherished cultural symbol. demolish some shipyard , military base or factory , it will only strengthen resolve, demolish nation's icon, you may be called barbarian but war has chance of ending very soon and as by product, you may immortalize yourself. Only one column is left from Artemida's temple in Efes but name of that idiot Herostrates lives forever.

I, for one, am in stage of life looking for ways to get rid of stuff rather than buy even more. Also learned they if I need something , I pay whatever it costs , if I don't need I just skip it even if price is 97% off. After years of hunting bargains I find it very liberating and also manly . Why ? my mother used to say " man pays twice as much for thing he needs, woman pays half price for stuff she doesn't need"

perhaps you were always too focused on the task

noted although last week of November is usually out of travel bounds for me for personal reasons . For now I have ideas but no firm plans yet - for me because of distance, airfares and flight times have oversized impact on travel plans.

exactly , what you described is quite popular behavior of younger but also older but offed for the first time guys . Deed done , lets shower, cash in and go instead of ' when you will see me next time ?' as minimum. In paid encounter of any kind it's one who pays to initiate parting rites. I'm not shy to point it out to guys looking for subsequent off that I was not happy with them rushing things out at the first time ............. Arthur is older, very massive guy who looks and probably is of mixed Asian / black race. In fact one can take him for a black guy

it's in the same small soi Patpong Post office is. I saw it but did not brave in, saunas are not really my thingy

welcome home !

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no doubt fact that manager Arthur was Tawan veteran for many years helps to treat guys decently.

That's all absolutely correct but unfortunately in real life sometimes what was approved in principle and in advance, when comes to it not necessarily will work as scripted. We agreed that during day each of us has free hand to do whatever and that I may bring somebody and requested that at this time room will be vacated, but when it come to it in reality it created some , how to say it ? uneasiness. From childhood I remember conversation my parents had with their lifelong friends about going together for vacation, each couple in own car but they were supposed to start at my parents place at such and such time. And my father knowing they are not exactly famous for being on time disclaimed " if you won't be here at 7 am, we are going and you will chase us on the road somewhere ". It turned that they were only 5 minutes late so my parents were on the road already when they arrived . It took weeks to heal perceived offense and we are talking about lifelong friends, not occasional hook up.

certainly I will be trying hard to make another Januray trip, I loved weather at that time of year. I loved out daily chats at Banana and bar hopping after that. I may also go in fall of this year but that trip will be unannounced and undercover, if I go I will go with the girl, lol

until this trip I thought the same, Now after this trip, honestly , I'm not so sure.

Summary One must wonder WTF this vinapu wants? It looks like quite pleasant trip , why that idiot proclaims to be relieved it’s over invoking very name of God? And I wouldn’t blame anybody for this line of thinking but there were few points which made me thinking along lines I did. First this trip was part of bigger trip in which I visited few countries ( my Thai bound flights were from and to Madrid ) and my relatives. While tourist part was excellent- never been to Spain before and fell in love with country from first sight as they say, family part was kind of uneven as I was placed by them in no-win situation which actually costed me money and forced me to cancel my originally booked flights. At end of day it was to serve somebody’s vanity and that person was not me. Worst part was not change of plans neither loss of money but very fact that nobody even bothered to ask me if that perhaps is the case. At end of day it worked well but bitter taste will linger for long time. Second was over optimistic decision to offer CB week long stay with me. As it turned, even if somebody is very well and very satisfactory rehearsed in the past, both on temporary assignments and travelling together, being together under one roof in place where one ordinary spends vacations ( me) or lives (CB ) has own dynamics and it did not work well for me , if only because our time together coincided with almost whole Thai part of the trip. It would be different if it was just 1 week out of 3 or 4. I was not mentally prepared for need to entertain somebody day after day ( nights were exponentially better excluding one , which I already wrote about) with very little room for my personal enjoyment of my , after all, own vacation time. As somebody above remarked , in cases like that we need to leave our companion a lot of personal time but what if companion doesn’t want to use that granted freedom for whatever reasons ? Add to it unhappy circumstances CB found himself in due to political situation and we have what I had – sharing room with somebody whose mind was somewhere else for most of time and we have prescription for problems. To credit of both of us we somehow managed to put it through without any awkwardness but for me it was not a dream Thai vacation , that’s for sure. Failure to succeed in Maxhunt added to sense of time not entirely well spent but there were very bright moments – by coincidence both provided by Dreamboy personnel, both in Pattaya an Bangkok and certainly my last two guys X and Y lifted my spirits with their company on the last day.

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Arena is often mentioned as having maintenance issues although it seems not they take better care about those issues, but price ? I always think their charges and expected tips are reasonable for what one gets. Can remember when last time I left them disappointed or upset and my history with them is the long one - my first visit was shortly after they opened one floor down from where they are now and for years it was my first place to start Thai trip. Not saying complains weren't warranted but I usually don't pay any attention to reviews , good or bad , by people I don't know. Unfortunately there always be people who will complain about water being too wet but also enthusiasts who overlook even serious shortage just because they want force themselves to feel and sound like happy. Main selling point of Arena for me that there one is 125,43 % guaranteed manly men, that's no place for sissy or feminine.

Day 10 , last one We waked up at 6 am, of course it was me who set up an alarm clock, CB preparing for flight spent quite a time in front of the mirror and as result I told him we are skipping breakfast as there’s danger of being late for flight. He suggested taxi butat morning hour I doubted it will be best idea so we went BTS+ARL way. In airport all went well. Last hugs and discreet kiss on the chin and he went to security and I returned to hotel by the way of Foodland. Today is my last day and finally I’m free to do what I want but it did not work as planned. Right upon returning to the room an allergy hit me, third bout third month . Sudden swell around right eye and chin. I was prepared with the pill and took it but that in turn made me sleepy so between 10 and noon I slept like a stone. When woke up , at least I looked better and felt better too. At 1.30 meetup with reader in Foodland, our last chance to talk this trip perhaps. Then stroll to soi where Nature Boy bar is as I wanted to try new Pheromone massage place , hoping I will snatch handsome guy I already spotted few times while walking by. He was there eating something so I decide to return in 15 mins. He was not there , I asked guy on reception if he is available and he laughed – he is the boss and is not giving massages. Ouch ! So I settled for 2nd best. Massage was good , afters could use more enthusiasm but still satisfactory. I left happy even if bit disappointed that boss was not available . Hope next time he will change his mind. Then rain started so I headed to the room via 7/11 to stock on supplies as I decided to finish this trip with the bang and organized sequence of visits by two of few my most favorite guys of all times. First , at 4.30 was former model X. I did not see him for few trips which he commented upon entry “ I did not see you long time, you are bored with me ? ‘ which was not a case but reason for bit of break was that on our last meeting he committed three sins at once : arrived late . was bit drunk and was rushing though the session like he had another appointment. It never happened before so the I decided to give us a break. But since I like him a lot in every sense , personality , body , endowment and work ethics I decided that what was supposed his penalty become my own and contacted him as soon as I had chance. Great session and great guy who has good sense of what I want from him. Professional in every sense. Shedding clothing right upon entry and when at one point he went to the loo to pee , he went under shower right after to wash his hose. No rushing this time at all. He told me a bit about his new girlfriend who apparently doesn’t mind him engage with men from time to time as long as it brings money home. Normally we would for a meal but I excused myself from accompanying him this time as soon after he left I had another star to arrive , Y. He used to be in Moonlight but in January he took time off. Was seen by my friend once at Jupiter but it looks that he got some other opportunities and for a moment he is not attached to any bar. He came with small bag and as it turned it was gift for me , elephant shirt. I was moved, I truly was It’s not a shirt but a gesture !!! If X is professional, Y is super professional who knows how to show appreciation for my multiple offs of him in the past, Last time we met he showed me pics of his home and said that it was partially built with my money – which boy would say such thing even if indeed over years he made some money of me , all well deserved. Our time today was more romantic than steamy , simply because this is how I wanted to finish this trip and my guy, professional in every inch sensed it and acted accordingly. So while this trip was of doubtful memorability for few reasons my last day, particularly 2nd half of it was one of best ever. I did not leave Thailand yet and was already thinking about when next foray there may be. At midnight we went to G’s to eat something, Y went home and I returned to hotel to pack. I had 4 cans of Chang in the fridge so took them to Patpong and gave to one of Freshboys barkers. There was no problem of getting passing taxi at 1.30 am and in about 30 minutes I was already lining up for security in Swampy. My 39th trip was over and thank God for that. One can’t return without leaving at the first place. Too late for summary today , I will write something , hopefully tomorrow

That's sweet , thank you

that is advantage of engaging more mature and business oriented straight guys. They are in for it for money and know what needs to be done to earn it, certainly avoiding stupid antics younger guys are more prone to do.