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if we are in company of somebody we should care about that companion may feel, it's not just about us even if we are financing whole event. I just noticed a447 voiced similar concern above

I'd be curious to learn what do you mean

if you take boy from bar, yes , you should tip him daily and also pay his off fee for a period / negotiate volume discount because of multiple nights /. Covering just expenses probably would't work as like all of us , some expenses are fixed and needs to be paid whether we are home or on vacations / rent /. It may work if trip is very short, 2-3 days but still if you are sleeping together you should tip him for that part.

for sure hank75 means Silom, yes there are 2 or 3 pedestrian passes under the BTS tracks on that stretch of Silom, one used often by me as it's right at mouth of soi 8 where Nantra Silom is located, across from soi 3 , home of Baan Silom

I agree, in reality in my opinion even Vietnam is tame compared to Cairo , Egypt and still I survived to tell the tale

if you chose your hotel wisely only time one needs to cross the street is to go to soi Twilight from Tarntawan or to Jupiter from Raya. Arena requires to cross the street but there are lights and desperate can use overpass at Chong Nonsi BTS . The same with Senso and SalaDaeng BTS

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for sure they do as it may be status booster in their crowd, I just wanted to point that lots of guys may find better use of money we are lavishing on them in form of fancier meals or shiny but impractical gifts.

if your second visit was also more than decade ago we can't accuse you of distributing fresh news for sure. Nobody is suggesting that you are necessarily completely wrong but that is nature of business - decade later those big and old men still have their takers. As for home life part of comment I understand what you want to say. Sometimes visiting bars I have impression that some of guys on the stage should be at home instead actually doing their homework, if helped by their fathers and uncles from Tawan , even better

Yoyo , the Vietnamese is my favorite from there, I also like their mamasans, helpful and not pushy

more customers may mean also more competition for most popular guys so it may be mixed blessing . Imagine Alizizou , Jasper and me elbowing each other to off say , Fluke at Moonlight

it looks that those who off muscle boys are energized by that enough to take time and also post here . I'm looking in the mirror , LOL Perhaps twinks generate less writing energy ? Even ChristianPFC seems to be less active in his blog ( I suspect he finally landed serious BFC and is in finishing stages of process of converting him to full fledged boyfriend) But absolutely news from other bars would be great - we did not hear much from Tawan recently

I understand your point but even if you tip very generously chances are it will be always that thought ' he spent so much on a meal , it would be better if he gave me 1/3 of that in cash. In June I offed Tawan guy and tipped him generously but deservedly 4000 for whole night. Next day invited him to Mango Tree / my idea , not his / for a dinner before his bar opened, tab came to 1700 and all of the sudden I felt that 4000 were very stingy for all that steam we had together for such long time and looking at his face I had impression his thoughts were about the same. Good bye hug was a bit wooden too, different from what we had before . Never again , meal was excellent but that aftertaste not so much.

waiting for guy inside bar is not waste of time with all that eye candy all over. If we were waiting outside that's another story. With me Fluke took shower because I asked him to shower together. Off without shower together is half baked affair for me. If not concern about wasting water I could shower with him soaping his muscles for eternity. I like manly face of this new model Por. Hope he will stay there till I return , LOL

I saw him as well and agree , not only performance truly impressive but his legs even more

world class attraction but also world class price , anyways I will go at earliest opportunity, thank you for spying that news for us

Noise at Jomtien can lead to nice events. Last year after my assignment who did not want to stay long time left me at my room at Venue I went to bed but due to noise from Q Mark I couldn't sleep so went to that bar to see what racket is all about. Waiter who brought me beer asked me if I sleep alone tonight , I answered ' no , with you ' and shortly we were marching back to my room, noise or not.

nothing scary but I had similar situation in BKK few trips ago. Motorsai driver giving me a lift from mouth of Ngham Duplee to BBB Inn in day time asked me if I want him to go with me to my room. To this day I don't know why I chickened out and said 'no ' as he was quite attractive

I think in most cases our boys still would prefer extra tip instead that extra nice restaurant and a dinner. In quite a few cases they weren't even shy to point that to me. Since I have habit of feeding my long time offs if they are hungry , I let them to chose place and very often it's just Family Mart and their microwave heated treats. Only two times they lead me to something expensive , one of those was my birthday so I figured he wanted to treat me to an option of me paying for upscale meal for all three of us / we had companion /.

I hope my money did not go to him as both times I offed Nicky we handled process ourselves without external help

but it happens, happened to me twice including on recent trip, already reported here. In both cases I gave guy in question second chance and it worked very well. Truth is when we go to bar and take one buy , we are rejecting all others so from time to time they may be in revenge position.

We as customers should not be concerned about inside bar politics and I practice what I preach by going directly to boys bypassing mamasans almost always. So in my world trick is not to get mamasan work for me , it to get me to work for me. Not that they don't have their use and sometimes are genuinely friendly and fun but I like to handle my affairs by myself. Their job is to get boys offed but I let them to use their skills helping somebody else. Exception apply specially If I want to see specific guy and it's nowhere to be seen I think it's better to bribe mamasan with tip to secure him than leave it to a chance , it's why last month when wanted to off Fluke I decided not to rely on a chance , slipped 100 baht to whoever mamasan was at hand and he did the job. Yes , Fluke must have a habit of letting his customers to wait ,it was my case as well but I was updated that he will come soon, whatever it means , felt like eternity but only because I was impatient. When we were leaving another mamasan approached Fluke with info that somebody else want's him but he pointed at me and off we went. It why I strongly believe that Jasper's misfortune was sourced at lack of message from mamasan or like suggested above some other mamasan or client was simply faster and Jasper's mamasan did not want to lose a face so let disappointment mushroom a bit. As for second part boys may be telling some truth. I know from talk to escorts , both ladies and guys that quite often they are taken exactly to what is mentioned - go to bar or disco , have a drink and listen how their customer is unhappy in his marriage. So just hand holding session is not parabole - it may happen quite often in rent for sex world. One of BBB boys even showed me his customer, handsome Malaysian who was his regular for just drink and talk sessions and I don't have any reason to think it was not true. Another guy, from Tawan has semi-regular Indonesian whom he is escorting to DJ Station, spends time with him there , gets paid regular tip but said it never went with him to his hotel.

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perhaps they expect less fun at disco with farang 15 years older ?

exiting Chao Praya Express boat at Tha Chang my food slipped and got between pier and a boat ready to be crushed but attendant noticed it , whistled and boat pulled back millimeter or two, enough to escape. second time in the early afternoon like 4 p.m. climbing Budda Hill in Pattaya I took shortcut through bus parking close to overpass and was stopped by two ladyboys for a chat, where you go etc , they were visibly glancing over my shirt pockets but they were'n looking packed so nothing happened but for a moment or two I felt a bit uneasy. third time in the morning in my room when guy I offed and as usual discussed compensation beforehand all of the sudden demanded 1000 baht more and looked very serious about meeting that request. Not that I was scared of possible confrontation but rather afraid it may develop into noisy scene so I paid up Otherwise no, never and I actually like to wander Patpong and Walking street very late at night when everything is quieting down, never a hint of trouble.