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quite often I see very good looking guys , both Asian and farang still offing boys from bars and having massages in M2M places even if one would think they can get free sex easily. Perhaps those are believers in old saying that nothing is as expensive as free things?

I will be happy to help one or two with that task in due course

and more costly. But it would be fun to see when big guy is afraid to step on that glass

In Boyztown bars they are common sight / and a noise / those days. I'm under impression that those in Bangkok are more generous tippers to boys on the stage

Tam and Babe have best smiles in the bar.

all clear

not that I disagree but like with most things, there are many flavors. My experience with discussed task is narrow - only 2 times , but both on guy's initiative and quite intensive insistence so I could see an element of guy's vacation , not just a work in an idea. Pattaya guy taken for 5 days to Bangkok - he insisted on handing over off fee by himself and asked me not to mention trip to the bar so likely pocketed it which I couldn't care less about as expense was budgeted and it was billed at discount. On top of me covering expenses we negotiated 1000 baht a day stipend and 3000 / night if we spent night together with 3 nights out of 5 guaranteed - quite elaborate arrangements as you can see.I even rented him separate room in case I will be hosting other guests. Bangkok guy taken to Pattaya for just 2 days , all he asked for was me to pay off fee at the bar and expenses and when upon return to Bangkok I gave him 7000 baht for his troubles / we had a lot of fun there / he was quite reluctant to take it and I'm sure he did not fake it.

Great report, I smiled reading it as your Senso reaction is exactly the same like mine , it must be some shy river flowing underground the place as usually I feel the same, passing by , returning , passing by and finally brave to enter. Also always have goose bumps when entering ,here and at Arena only and wonder what in may be as other places I enter without such tribulations. Only explanation I have for myself is that those are two places where I always leave happy. I see your first day being very busy , another habit we share. Go to MyHero, chances are you won't be disappointed. In Silom area ogle boys at Nakarat and Bangkok massage and chances are you will find somebody you'll like. It's good at times to stop monodiet and try something new or return to places not seen for long time. Waiting impatiently for the next installment but remember - your fun comes well ahead of self-imposed forum duties , LOL

I like to draw attention to fact that cited comment did not say anything about AGE of criticized sector of population (my underscore and question mark ). Otherwise I agree with you that this kind of stereotyping is misplaced. Gay men are just regular men , warts and all and only difference about us is that we are turning heads when GUY with shapely ass is passing by why our hetro brothers are handicapped by not being able to admire such a beauty.

if we are in company of somebody we should care about that companion may feel, it's not just about us even if we are financing whole event. I just noticed a447 voiced similar concern above

I'd be curious to learn what do you mean

if you take boy from bar, yes , you should tip him daily and also pay his off fee for a period / negotiate volume discount because of multiple nights /. Covering just expenses probably would't work as like all of us , some expenses are fixed and needs to be paid whether we are home or on vacations / rent /. It may work if trip is very short, 2-3 days but still if you are sleeping together you should tip him for that part.

for sure hank75 means Silom, yes there are 2 or 3 pedestrian passes under the BTS tracks on that stretch of Silom, one used often by me as it's right at mouth of soi 8 where Nantra Silom is located, across from soi 3 , home of Baan Silom

I agree, in reality in my opinion even Vietnam is tame compared to Cairo , Egypt and still I survived to tell the tale

if you chose your hotel wisely only time one needs to cross the street is to go to soi Twilight from Tarntawan or to Jupiter from Raya. Arena requires to cross the street but there are lights and desperate can use overpass at Chong Nonsi BTS . The same with Senso and SalaDaeng BTS

# me too

for sure they do as it may be status booster in their crowd, I just wanted to point that lots of guys may find better use of money we are lavishing on them in form of fancier meals or shiny but impractical gifts.

if your second visit was also more than decade ago we can't accuse you of distributing fresh news for sure. Nobody is suggesting that you are necessarily completely wrong but that is nature of business - decade later those big and old men still have their takers. As for home life part of comment I understand what you want to say. Sometimes visiting bars I have impression that some of guys on the stage should be at home instead actually doing their homework, if helped by their fathers and uncles from Tawan , even better

Yoyo , the Vietnamese is my favorite from there, I also like their mamasans, helpful and not pushy

more customers may mean also more competition for most popular guys so it may be mixed blessing . Imagine Alizizou , Jasper and me elbowing each other to off say , Fluke at Moonlight

it looks that those who off muscle boys are energized by that enough to take time and also post here . I'm looking in the mirror , LOL Perhaps twinks generate less writing energy ? Even ChristianPFC seems to be less active in his blog ( I suspect he finally landed serious BFC and is in finishing stages of process of converting him to full fledged boyfriend) But absolutely news from other bars would be great - we did not hear much from Tawan recently

I understand your point but even if you tip very generously chances are it will be always that thought ' he spent so much on a meal , it would be better if he gave me 1/3 of that in cash. In June I offed Tawan guy and tipped him generously but deservedly 4000 for whole night. Next day invited him to Mango Tree / my idea , not his / for a dinner before his bar opened, tab came to 1700 and all of the sudden I felt that 4000 were very stingy for all that steam we had together for such long time and looking at his face I had impression his thoughts were about the same. Good bye hug was a bit wooden too, different from what we had before . Never again , meal was excellent but that aftertaste not so much.

waiting for guy inside bar is not waste of time with all that eye candy all over. If we were waiting outside that's another story. With me Fluke took shower because I asked him to shower together. Off without shower together is half baked affair for me. If not concern about wasting water I could shower with him soaping his muscles for eternity. I like manly face of this new model Por. Hope he will stay there till I return , LOL

I saw him as well and agree , not only performance truly impressive but his legs even more

world class attraction but also world class price , anyways I will go at earliest opportunity, thank you for spying that news for us