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better job opportunities in the big city? Pattaya is a magnet for cuties of all three genders by definition I guess

Don't even attempt to please membership as it always will be 3 camps -interested who agree with the message -interested who don't agree -disinterested

Finally , after all that slander about me spoiling boys and market for others you voiced an appreciation of my contribution to the common good, LOL and thank YOU ! Pattaya was always cheaper than BKK but it looks that is chasing it and catching up. With 800 off fee for the show boys BBB is most expensive in whole country even leaving Dreamboys in the dust /with their 650 or as somebody recently reported 700/. fact is that regular off fee is still 500 at BBB and boy drink at 450 while shocking for Pattaya fits somewhat with 400-500 of Bangkok ones. But wait - which bar is pulling greatest crowds ? Not Sunee bars their 100 baht drinks but BBB with 280. This seems to support theory that winning bar is one where is fun to be and price is just secondary. To cheer price conscious crowd there's no shortage of bars with cheap drinks and nice boys /Nice Boys itself among others/ and is still easy land 1000 ST, 1500 LT if one knows where to look for it and it;s not prone to be star struck. One of my nicest surprises last trip was selection at Super A, not my types but still quite a few very acceptable. To chip into inflation debate in my opinion tips are not even keeping with food price inflation, in 1000/2000 days street meal was available everywhere for 30 baht , now it's 50-60. But there's one unheralded Thai advantage - dental care costs are only fraction of what uninsured will pay at home in most Western countries and prescription drug I pay 40 $ at home I bought for 11 $ without prescription in the airport pharmacy.

setting is Ok , particularly if store is empty at the moment but it seems that 'wink, wink' eye contact can't be achieved , by me at least

they don't look shy on a picture posted by z909 in "love the Philippines" thread

did you ever try to lift a boy from 7/11? sometimes they are cute like hell and wasting their opportunities IMHO less, I drink so chances would be it was at least partially consumed

live and let live / until the crash /

I even think that this makes sense , after all we got a boy from estabilishment , not from street somewhere. buy won't be fired but they may make him paying imputed off fee out of hos tip. In fairness in need to be said they are not always that greedy, I mentioned Arena charging me fee for boy taken at closing but on at least 3 if not more occasion they did not charged anything if during day I had massage there, even if with different boy that I was taking home. But I think it's not a rule just beneficial / for me / whim of management.

we know the thrill of counting days

100-200 % markup, nice, where's nearest 7/11 ?

that is what I advise everybody , go to the nearest BTS , MRT , river or Saen Saep khlong and continue

possible but impossible to verify so I gave him money / 400, cost of 1 hr massage there /. I took him straight from Copa massage after end of his shift so it was in plain view of the whole soi. In the past I had Arena , Bonny's and Bangkok Massage soi Twilight charging me directly even if I was taking boys out at closing time so his story sounded somewhat credible , bosses are at times greedy animals

All that pricing controversy steaming from report could be avoided simply by me omitting financial details but I did it for purpose as nothing enlivens threads like money matters, particularly somebody else's money. Funny thing for me is that in two weeks there I did not spent as much energy on finances like in following two weeks of daily reporting that trip So here's another round ( my underlines and numbering for easier read ) : 1.as said before , I'm not arguing , just presenting my way of thinking about financing vacation fun 2. as for stunning boys is enough to comb through few pages of comments on our model thread to learn that stunner to one is Humpback from Notre Dame to somebody else. When you compare fees you paid with ones I did, are you sure we are talking about the same boys ? It takes all 18 years and a day for security for twink to be pretending stunner while several more years of exercising, dieting and who know what other sacrifices are necessary to get model look and perhaps even more to built body shape to be stunner for those who like bodybuilders or muscled man. And in those years girlfriend get pregnant and boys are out of business taken by family life so rarer they become if one is looking for more mature and mentally balanced men. They may become less attractive for some but rarer species for those who look for them thus commanding better rate. In short , I think all of Super A boys will go for 1000 ST while very few if any of Jupiter or Tawan ones will. 3. For me on vacation fun is more precious than standing by my budget plan and if I find boy attractive I like to taste him leaving saving money for after vacation life 4. that's the whole point , you are not happy , don't do / pay / it. , bargain down , or walk away in easy search of another fish I'm happy, would never cross my mind to be jealous on learning that boy who skinned me alive for 3000-4000 landed next night in somebody else's embraces for 1200 I knew before I even left Thailand that with only 4 substantial rains in 2 weeks I was very lucky even if 4000 is outrageous I still gladly paid and I'm forever grateful to those 4 boys who extracted it from me and provided outstanding time in exchange. My money ,my pleasure, boy's joy. in 2001 I paid LT tip in BKK, this was upper end of 1500-2000 scale then

it happens and nothing stops you from doing the same. If you read my recent travel report you will find two day time meetings and three after hours long times organized that way. Keep in mind that boy of your dream boy may be busy during day / work , home chores, needs to go to the gym or simply needs to sleep because his last off was long time / and for the same reasons may not be available after hours, the same like all of us working folks doing our best 9-5 but not keen on overtimes. Be discreet so boy's boss don't get a wind of it , my two time after hours off from Copa was actually charged off fee next day (or so he told me). I reimbursed him of course.

Must be something in the Mississippi and Colorado waters

Don't feel discouraged, you are not at fault for posting somebody else's dubious inventions and it's great community service to let us know what others are saying about subjects we are also familiar with. Your time is used very well, rest assured.

I understand your sarcasm but time wise depending on traffic train option may turn out to be the same like taxi. This comes from somebody who just recently suffered 70 minutes crossing of Saphan Taksin bridge by bus, taxi would be the same, in meantime at least 14 BTS trains passed by in the same direction !

GQ is trying to spoil an excellent Thai food with too much wax in it's lyrics. I doubt very much we see may construction workers with their 300 /day salary feeding in food court and business tycoon lining up to get his Pad Thai will be scarcer even more.

I'm not picking up on Americans , OP was about owning guns legally , not necessarily case when gun crime is considered. But is seems to me that Americans love to be proud owners of legal guns more than other nations.

We all are using what suits us the best. Not necessary what one does somebody else follows and there's no right or wrong. Sometimes even person changes his approach how to extract more fun . There are those who visit bar or massage place only once every trip ( my trips 1.2.3.5.6.7.8.)and those who park themselves in their favorite places and get all their fun from there ( my trip 13 ). Budgetary discipline you are talking about is only to be commended and admired as there's only that much money we can spent. But like with every discipline it's only step from mental terror we may inflict on ourselves. No favorite meal today because they raised price from 190 to 205 and 200 is my budget, no museum visited today because on Tuesday they have 50 % off admission ( and related hordes of economizing visitors ), getting almost heart attack being close to missing flight because we opted to bus instead taxi etc. Good that you don't regret and move on. I learned my lessons that it not always pays. In my younger years I did not visit Uffizzi Gallery in Florence because admission was to steep for me , it took 20 years for another chance to be in Florence again , just for a day and horror of horrors, due to technical issues Gallery was closed that day. so wound is still bleeding. On Easter Island I saw sculpture in wood , true piece of art but at 400 $ it seemed excessively priced so I passed by opting for 10 times cheaper crude one. When came to my senses and returned next day shop lady waved me away , it was sold apparently soon after I left , I still hate myself for that. I did not win lottery and did not squander my inheritance, I just found the way of financing certain indulgences by cutting on other ones. There are readers who may consider tips I pay excessive but they readily discuss advantages of staying in Crowne Plaza over Dusit Thani , seek feedback on the best restaurants or roof top beer bars and consider taking bus to Pattaya or train to Swampy waste of time. And why not , if that is what rocks their boat as much as mine is rocked by taking 5 baht train from DMK to Bangkok or managing to get to Foodland Patpong before 9 a.m. to get an advantage of having breakfast for 62 instead of 85 baht. And at end of day as my trip reported above attests there are always cheaper boys, hey only four 4000 LT's as opposite to five 2000 ones

Last Dec arrivving from Cambodia to DMK I took train , 5 baht and then MRT fro Halampong to Silom , 18 baht

just out of curiosity, are all those guys Americans or more mixed bunch ? Desire to own a gun seem to be very American to me.

enjoy your trip and don't forget about us here

that is all bullshit, what will be next? mountains of used condoms on streets contributing to the traffic gridlock by narrowing them ?

You guys are spoiling me. I wouldn't mind some critical voices / too long , to brief , too detailed, not detailed enough, lacking pictures and NO GRAPHICS, what the hell you guys were doing there and so on / We hope you will keep you word but I need to warn you. It's quite time consuming , particularly if you are typing with 1 or 2 fingers only like me.