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I guess it's very hard to conduct proper market research for this type of venues. In meanwhile BoyzBoyzBoyz, most expensive of them all, is packing house night after night

While generally you are correct such topic serves purpose- newcomers to a world of gay Thailand forums may not be aware about existence of other forums like Sawatdee or Gaybutton. Let them go there and make their own mind what they like. I don't think is any competition between forums to grab readership and quite a few posters are active on all three.

very nice . manly face

I read them daily and don't smell any stench of death but because a lot of posts there is just snapping at each other I'm not sure my time reading is spent the best way. Not much gay nor Thai in those posts. But if contributors there have fun as it is now, let them have it. Every forum is as good or as bad as contributors and mods made it.

That's sad as this bar looked quite promising when I visited in September. Surely it cost a lot to spruce it up.

be good man , do good deeds and don't worry about accounting. We are not talking about supermarket cupons here

High praises to you ! Not only you did not get discouraged by lack of answers ( perhaps nobody there with fresh experience ) but you did not forget about us and bothered with updates. Welcome to the forum

Sore may be very microscopic and still dangerous , it's why it's advised not to engage in oral up to 2 hours after brushing the teeth

welcome to the forum Passing by those Suriwong shops you need to pay better attention as among dozens of boys sitting there it MUST be one or two you find attractive. On many occasions I walked by in a company of Chritian PFC, member here well known for being picky and even him ALWAYS noticed somebody worth second look. He is into your type of boys. So keep walking and looing. What about massage shops in very soi Twilight? At least you can survey realm without being rushed, park yourself with a beer in some bar / restaurant and have your look. I agree boys at Thai Best were quite good looking generally. that's the lesson we need to learn over and over. Happened probably to most of us and it's often reported here. We are looking at boy in awe and then somebody more decisive walks in , waves boy over and he is engaged if not gone altogether leaving us gasping for an air and perhaps for second best. And then it's question of who is absolutely stunning twink / boy next door / hunk? Riser of blood pressure for one of us may be only 'also run' for another. So all recommendation need to be taken with grain of salt. In last few months three members liking the same type I do asked for recommendation of boys I mentioned glowingly in my reports. Result is 1-1-1, one disappointed quite a bit, one happy but not exactly glowing as I did and only one confirmed, perhaps even exceeded my own experience ( I rewarded that boy with off at first opportunity )

I agree even more, they will quote higher amount hoping boy will share spoils with them and this extraction is more common then we think based on quite a few conversations between mamasan and client I overheard in bars. Only inflation I noticed in September was in Good Boys when they asked for 500 instead of usual 300 for on the site show. Not sure it's new level of they just took me for a newbie. Even for long time I was quoted 1500 by one of Oscars boys, offer of course utilized but as can be expected I gave him more as a price for late 12 noon breakfast together. that's correct. Asian customers are more inclined to hunt for hunks and they are in short supply so market forces are in the force. But hunks being bit older and longer in the teeth understand customer service and client loyalty better so may be open to negotiation. Repeat customers stand better chance.

if I'm not mistaken they have also room upstairs

you mentioned it twice here , who paid it and how did you learn about it? was boy worth that kind of money ? or it was just request you received ? I had requests for as much as 5000 but at least it was for Long time and it was clearly fishing

up to you as boys use to say,

I'd say all Boyztown bars are. I don't recall seeing anything too graphic in those bars in the audience other than big cock show and special show participants circulating for the tips

since you were planning to repeat feast this Friday , hope you did and cleared your question. Can't help you , Fai is shorter guy but I don't recall any tattoos which means noting because I tend to overlook skin ink altogheter

I wonder if boys after being sucked went to wash their cocks. Otherwise next taker may have a chance not only to taste young Thai cock but also whatever previous sucker was nursing around his dentures. My apologies for spoiling party but this was a scene I once witnessed in Eros , boy moving from one patron to another and it crossed my mind that second client is kind of unwillingly wet kissing first one.

Sathorn Unique building , empty shell of which stands right beside Saphan Taksin BTS is for me one of most prominent of Bangkok landmarks

ABomb is old staple of Boyztown bars, prominently located on the corner of 2nd Road and Pattayaland soi 2, under Classrooms hotel, not easy to overlook

what was so surprising ?

from what I know , yes they are real brothers. For that very reason asking them for 4 hand massage together never crossed my mind. But one can ask , I can even imagine they can agree but chances are session would be restricted to massage only. I had 4 hands at Bangkok Massage with two close friends, it was fun but they did not touch each other and told me up front they will not, explaining why. For that very reason I always advise those going for 4 hands - pick up one boy and let him to pick up another one subject to your approval.

Lots of fun can be had without getting into actual f***k, up to your friend. Just being massaged by naked hunk may make him happy enough. Go slowly and don't push him. You can take a time picking up guy there, in fact they serve beer for something like 100 baht if not less You can be open and straightforward with Art. 100 baht tip will oil him to even more friendly disposition, ,just kidding although I always tip him on departure just for old times sake.In fact I once had massage with him and he did very well. As for massage itself I can recommend Fai there, he is firmly on my list of 5 best massages ever. His brother Dit also working there is my most engaged boy ever with 14 massages and long times over the years. So when comes to Arena I'm positively biased but have statistics to support me, LOL As for HIV and related issues. Those places have condoms and lubes by my advice for everybody is to carry those all the time just in case as well as small bottle of mouthwash. One never knows when will be hit by heat passing by all those massage places.

I'm glad you had great time there. Arena is usually first massage shop I visit after arrival in BKK and still have goose bumps when taking that escalator up, don't ask me why because I don't know but I like the feeling. 1.Arena's minimum tip is for massage, shower together and hand job. This is clearly stated on their website and was a case as long as I remember. Everything else requires higher tip. Everywhere , be it bar or massage , I'm I'm always asking straight question "how much you want ? " . If quotation is too high I counter offer with what I'm willing to pay and that is give or take for either one of us , haggling would kill fun for me. You can state your own quotation by answering to his "I fuck you ?" with " OK, 1000 baht" or whatever you willing to fork out. Then boy either smiles or asks for more. Keep in mind , he can see your glistening eyes not to mention speed you hardened up after undressing so may try for more. 2. First talk to a boy if he is willing to go overnight with you . Some may , some may not and still some will decline on the first encounter but may agree next time so don't give up if you like a boy. He may like you too. I never involve mamasans in those discussion but Art , mamasan in Arena is good guy and you can talk to him freely. You may take boy immediately or you may tell them you will pick him up after end of his shift / closing time for shop. In such a case just show up later and he will wait for you or even tell him to come to your hotel but make sure he knows where it is, don't count on it. You will be required to pay off fee , Arena may charge you cost of 1 or 1.5 hr massage. They never asked me but I was asked in other places sometimes to pay boy tip up front. Some massage places are doing this for outcalls. On another hand few times at Arena if I had massage during day and was taking boy out after end of his shift they did not charge me at all but this seemed to be whim more than standard practice or kind of bonus for loyal patronage so don't count on it. Tip expected will be 2000-3000 although I doubt you will find many there willing to accept 2000 for long time. Again I'd fix it with boy beforehand, you don't want scene in the morning with him expecting say, 5000. (happened to me back in Nov 2013, reported on this forum ) As for hotel anddy already told you above , my advice is walk with boy like you own the place and if they want boy's ID they will ask. But make sure boy has ID before you take him as in some hotels they will not let him in. more questions- please ask We hope you will be reporting to us your adventures in Thailand but no , we are not asking you to tell us EVERYTHING, just whatever you want to share

and we were wary and now we are old LOL but transition was/is lot of fun

hope they will retain an option of having soap massage there

recall what your grandmother was saying about what was good and what was not , that you can believe