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as for travelling light, answer is yes , here's my main luggage and daypack which works as carry-on on the plane as well. Luggage weight on departure was 9.4 kg secrets of travelling light are minimum number of souvenirs and doing my laundry daily myself The Economist just for size comparing as it's well known paper of standard size I also like travelling by public transit and use taxis as last resort, even in Thailand where they are of great value. Savings realized that way are going straight to pay those inflated boy tips.

I never did but it must be said that few years ago in Tarntawan and on just last trip at New Cafe Royal receptionists were / are very handsome.

Day 13 Disclaimer first : all pictures in today’s post are courtesy of ChristianPFC posted here with his permission, thank you Christian During bar hopping yesterday we decided to materialize earlier plans to see Chang Chui creative area and Christian suggested that on occasion we visit some rural temples in the area so it’s why this morning world saw us boarding 9.20 train to Hua Hin and about 40 minutes later we left train at Bang Bamru station, impressive white elephant. Bangkok suburban station taking roughly 15 trains a day in each direction but built on impressive scale for reason perhaps even Buddha couldn’t comprehend but certainly whoever made money from construction, did. To give you and impression, man’s toilet has no less than 17 urinals, that’s seventeen. Perhaps more than in whole Grand Central station in NYC. But that’s not my problem, we set to our first object Wat Chelo by foot , it did not take long as it’s about 2 km from station and it’s interesting to see how rapidly urban scenery is changing to a village one. As you see Wat Chelo is an impressive temple and if was located in city center most likely would be mobbed by tour buses day and night due to unique architecture of temple on the boat. But where it is , short distance from city’s hustle and bustle it was quiet and serene and we had it almost to ourselves to explore. Behind the temple is a khlong / channel / easily crossed by the bridge and on another side we have real village with village’s sounds and smells and village temples and shrines we visited to heed Christian motto that day without visiting temple in Thailand is day lost. Watch his blog as sooner or later he will post his impressions from that trip. village temple [ Then further on he lead us to once abandoned and ruined temple , now partially resuscitated / for some reason can't upload pictures / Village dogs guarding it were quite jealous barking hostile but leaving our legs intact on departure. After short stroll through village paths we found glimpse of civilization , road with roadside restaurant where we were only customers on arrival but by time we left all few tables were occupied – sign that we came at lunch time. Christian treated us with lunch , I don’t remember what I eat but it was certainly very tasty and filling, Thai cuisine at it’s best. In meantime monsoon started to be more active with clouds gathering but by time rain arrived we managed to cover some distance to another temple which we could see only from outside as it was in process of renovation about which we were sternly reminded by lady in charge of the door ‘ You, no !” when we tried to enter. Our survey of BKK outskirts was interrupted by the rain which we outwaited in the nearby bus shelter and after hour or so there we continued back to civilization which appeared as a railway line so we covered few km on the tracks included crossing few canals on the bridge, quite “ Indiana Jones for the poor “ experience specially when my 2 $ umbrella slipped from my had and felled to a chasm 3 meters below. Main reminder we are not completely in the wild was cemetery of old plane engines following tracks for a while but guarded by a fence and small khlong , wide enough to prevent us from jumping over. Back in BKK we went to Chang Chui place , well visible mainly due to airplane parked in the middle and after paying 20 baht admission we were greeted by the sight of ‘memento mori “ exhibit. Wandered around shops, exhibits , even had pizza in their pizzeria, not bad tasting but still distant relative of one from Madrid Patpong. Chang Chui was introduced to us here by reader in the post http://www.gaythailand.com/forums/topic/11336-chang-chui-bangkoks-newest-creative-space/?hl=%2Bchang+%2Bchui thank you reader. It was pretty quiet and perhaps is busier in the evening but it’s clearly aimed at urban motorized yuppies and artsy types as getting there and from by public transport while possible is a bit tedious as we learned on return. While train from Bang Bamru would be best option there was none for next 1.5 hr. so we opted for a bus and it was quite a walk to get to a stop , quite a walk for bus to arrive – it was 5 p.m. on Friday so Bangkok congestion at it’s best. We took bus 149 going all the way to Sathorn so very tempting. Christian got off somewhere in between and I continued toward Saphan Taksin which was quite breezy but after bus turned toward bridge we were stuck in the traffic for good and it took exactly 70 minutes to cross the bridge, not a minute less. Driver did not open door so we were trapped inside and for 50 minutes I was quite upset but than , always looking for full half of glass I realized that trap produces substantial savings as my plan was to go to Senso, do your math. 1490 for 1.5 massage and minimum tip 1800 , if M or Jack would be there it could be 2000. Long live Bangkok bus thought I after 70 minutes alighting in front of Surasak station and taking BTS home to Nantra. My advice to anybody taking Bangkok buses or taxis is to take it to nearest BTS or MRT whatever it is , continue by rails as close to your destination as possible and then again bus or taxi to a goal. Very busy , full of impressions and rare sights thanks to Christian day so I rested and desoiled myself a bit and for last unrushed night in Thailand ( I still have another night but with morning departure I will be watching clock a bit ) I couldn’t pick up another bar seeking for companion than Tawan so off I went greeted by few smiles of boys I treated with offs and tips in the past and those who are keen pretenders to those in the future. Few red notes were tucked inside of their briefs. To my surprise one of boys on the stage , #8 was completely out of place , regular twink , not even aspiring body builder , one our resident twink admirers would be happy to contemplate to take home. Possibly they decided to diversify a bit. Tonight I had sights on #6 , Dum, I noticed him keenly in Dec and was glad to see him this time. Issan native with very black skin and full , African like lips. Could be taken for a black boy. Well and proportionally built , not a bodybuilder but muscular type and smooth like a baby, knowing that I have sights on him ( one night passing by boys drinking after Tawan closed I told him one day he is mine) called by mamasan because I did not see him come all in smiles. Boon #48 was making motions from the stage hoping he will be my choice again but even him when saw Dum at my sight made an approving , fingers up, gesture. I was watching show a bit but mixture of fatigue after such a busy day and curiosity how new for be boy turns out I decided to grab him and run. We skipped usual food part as he was not hungry and I had something in the room before going to bar as well. As I said , at Tawan I’m marked men so of course his tip request was inflated, but I settled on 4000 I paid to other two their boys hoping I get value for my money ( and stabilize some heart beat rates of people reading this ). Gamble paid off , absolute gem, quite passionate and those lips !!!. He was not in rush to go home but I had some morning plans so at 8 asked him to come at 3 p. m. for a short round , he agreed we were both happy happy marching to Foodland for a customary breakfast finishing another impressive day , this time 13th of this trip. I was planning to place few more pictures from our trip in this post but can't upload them so I gave up, my apologies

I'm last to laugh at this type or queries. Man hunting situations are sometimes awkward. I never know why I feel a little bit nervous when I got to Arena and Senso but never feel like that with all other places. Don't ask me why because I don't know. Certainly not shyness, Dit from Arena is boy I met more than any other in Thailand and at least 5 other boys I met already are still working there, when inside I feel like at home but on approach I'm still recycled virgin. There's boy at BBB Pattaya I chalked 10 offs with , 8 LT and he still seems uncomfortable showering together, again no idea why. There's no cover it all receipt on approaching boy one has an interest in, it all depends of situation but I employ that already mentioned rule - he must acknowledge my presence . Truly as you described it , elegant way. Is not difficult though, boys being in the escort business are keen on exploring opportunities and combing environment with their eyes so in short, they may find you sooner than you find them. Just stay tuned

thank you for answering , did not have pleasure I believe

Risky move on his part , getting privately involved with guest in his room. I guess he knew what he was doing.

who is your favorite boy? do I know him?

firecat fell silent since July 12 and did not visit us since

here's another cheek

Where's SUPER LIKE button when I need one ?

It's well known to science that young , world trotting travelers may be keen to finance part of their trip by exchanging access to their body for cash or stealing from other travelers in the hostels. First option is definitely more preferable I guess.

I stay corrected although as we both know metrics for my consumption are very different, LOL

It would depend if boy is sitting alone or with others and also of I know boy personally from previous offs or jus from seeing him in bar. Boy sitting alone - If I offed him previously and I liked experience I'd join him immediately even if not intended to off him , probably ordered drink for both of us , chated him a bit and most likely offered to pay for his meal if any. This should improve karma and chances of getting that smile next time I see him on the stage. If I know him only from bar but never met before I'd leave him alone if not intended to off him tonight unless we got an eye contact than I'd say ' Hi mister Tawan / Jupiter / Super A/ whatever" thus giving me a chance for that smile in the bar next time. The same if I meet boy walking on the street, always greet him if we got an eye contact. If I like to off sitting alone boy in any case I'd approach, invite myself to seat beside /across the table and without much decorum ask him ' are you free tonight" if 'yes" ' do you go with me tonight" , if 'Yes" than do my usual time and tip negotiations . Boys are in the business so no need to built sophisticated conversation structures. If boy is sitting with other boys I'd first try to get an eye contact and if got one motion him to step for second of semi- private chat. If no eye contact achieved I'd not be stepping to join a party unless 100% sure all members of party are bar boys - this is sometimes a case of Tawan boys having drink in front of 7/11 after bar closed. With their boys since my face is somewhat recognized by at least a few I's not have any hang ups of joining them if only to have a chat or shake hands. But generally as always I try not to push myself into boy's arms to to speak but rather wait for a signal from him he is interested or at least he acknowledges my presence. Case of #60 on day 11 was an exception , due to his popularity I decided to act right away. It was the same with Mekhin from old Jupiter in December. I remember old song my father used to hum 'good luck smiles at us only once" and sometimes it pays to forget about our own rules and inhibitions. Hope it helped

Day 12 For a change lonely breakfast at Foodland , then some internet and a bit of tourist program. I took Chao Praya Express boat to Tha Thewet pier / 15 baht / , than walked to Bank of Thailand museum newly opened in old palace near Rama VIII bridge. that's the bridge as seen from the grounds Weekdays museum is opened by an appointment only for groups of at least 20 but on Saturdays there’s free access with 4 guided tours at 10.30, 11.30, 12.30 and 1.30, each tour takes 100 visitors on first come, first served basis. Since today is only Thursday I was turned away but it was expected. From there tuk-tuk to Sanam Luang to get a glimpse of structure containing crematorium for the late King funeral in October. Did not see much as area is fenced off , construction still going and hordes of both mourners and tourists crowding sidewalks and streets. But people watching was interesting and I had another motive in mind. Today Bank Of Thailand released for circulation new banknotes commemorating life of the late King. Faces are identical to currently circulated but reverses are different showing different scenes from monarch’s life and works. I was prepared to pay premium, there were few vendors offering them for 2000 per set while face value is 1670 (20, 50, 100, 500 and 1000 ) but I found somebody offering set for 1800, reasonable 130 baht extra and purchased it meeting my goal for the day. To return I took Chao Praya Turist Boat, more expensive than regular boat but with guaranteed seat. It circulates between Saphan Taksin and Tha Thewet , departures are every 30 minutes . Day ticket costs 180 allowing unlimited hop-on, hop-off option while one ride one can be purchased for 50 and this is what I did. 3 times cost of regular boat but still very reasonable and comfortable and comfortable with announcements in English. It’s not new concept but now is much better organized and easy to go about, Recommended wholeheartedly, worth extra 35 baht. At 6 I was expecting Christian PFC, jet lag disappeared long time ago so this time I could open door, not like 1 week ago when I felled down to jet lag and did not even hear his knocking. We discussed sightseeing plans for tonight and tomorrow, I showed him new banknotes and we went to Madrid Tavern in Patpong for treat of their pizzas . As usual we ordered two different and shared them 50/50 but there pizza is always good, whatever one chooses and this comes from vinapu who normally doesn’t even consider pizza fit for human consumption. I shared with him my impressions from week in Pattaya and Christian suggested we check on Super A in soi 6. Off we went. Since my last visit in May 2015 they spruced it a bit , it seemed cleaner and lights a bit brighter although it’s still pretty dark inside. Even nicer surprise were boys , although dressed in jeans and shirts quite a few out of about 8 present turned out to be quite good looking , not hunky but boy next door types, at least three offing material for me. Christian is more demanding but even him spied somebody attractive who disappeared upstairs to sleep but he did not accept excuse and asked to bring boy downstairs to treat him with a tip. In meantime some other farang appeared and I invited one of boys for a drink and gentle indecent touches which shortly turned out to be more smart than I thought. Heavens opened with an impressive rain and we were trapped inside , not a bad thing considering both us were entertained by somebody we liked. Just before 9 p.m. rain suddenly stopped and we left , my companion 300 baht richer than before rain. Whole soi 6 was under ankle deep water but fortunately Christian had flip-flops and I some plastic Birkenstocks so we just waded through it to Suriwong. Passing by Tawan we just peek inside but as expected Christian did not see anybody even remotely attractive and I had other plans for tonight. Surprisingly , few minutes after such heavy rain streets came to life like nothing happened. Next stop was Hot Male upstairs and we arrived just before show. Other than us there were only 2 other patrons but they decided to carry on with show anyways . On stage I recognized few boys from the past , few tips were distributed , Christian also met few faces already known to him and shorty after the show we parted our ways. He went home and I set for Jupiter in soi 4 hoping to finally reunite with Oud, successful transplant from Tawan and boy I offed already 8 times this century. Show was almost over last number being shower show Oud was in so I did not wait long and as soon as he was free we set of to Thaniya to get some food. I walked and he came soon after on his new shiny motorcycle , donation from his Chinese lady customer I saw in the bar last week. Now how I look like being called two week millionaire here in comparison of such lavish compensation ? I feel like cheap Charlie on sale, LOL.. But I did not expect any fuss and rightly so from boy who always calls me ‘my vinapu’ and once claimed ‘if you happy I happy”. Only thing I noticed was that with his recent good fortune he was bit more confident than before and it showed even on the stage. He treated himself with some insects treats but I politely declined to partake. As expected from such a veteran of many offs in the room all went according to well rehearsed routine we have minus serious reduction in whisky we shared – looks he is serious about being now motorcycle driver. In the morning he even made sure I’m happy by asking “ do you like me ? ” Usual 3000 LT tip accepted with smile, this was part we did not discuss beforehand as I assumed with so many offs before we both know what we get from each other. Again , motorcycle trip to Foodland Patpong for breakfast , slightly unusual as for drink he asked for milk, second only time I saw Thai boy drinking milk. I finish day 12 by being driven on his impressive machine to Hualampong but this is story for day 13.

you are not descendant of king Herod, that's for sure

stay where you belong

I already posted it twice here over the years but will refresh story again - either in 2015 or 16 at Raya I was witness of quite a commotion when departing guest loudly accused staff of taking some sum from his deposit box. Few days later on one of our boards but not here , some poster admitted openly to making himself a fool at Raya and accusing them of stealing money he subsequently found in his luggage and recalling of placing it there himself. At least he had guts to admit mistake publicly , not sure he apologized to staff at Raya though.

it's still there

with just that one line you spoiled all our fun and OP is not even sure bottle was there at the first place

fine, but still I fail to see reason of treating gambling problems as lighter than other social problems you mentioned

I like to wake up with somebody smooth, brown skinned with cock attached in the same bed if only for the feeling but morning gymnastics are energizing. If you want something usually energy to find it comes along although not always hunt yields. I think I'm motivated enough by curiosity to learn of what happens next, only thing left on me from that long gone youth.

now that you mentioned it I think it's great idea but to avoid inflation I'd restrict use of SUPER LIKE to 1-3 a day max. That's true sometimes posts are moving us and deserve to be marked as such. "I DON'T LIKE " button would be useful too , if only to avoid excessive bitching and arguments trading ping-pong. That's true , day 11 was one of those I felt were worth flying all the way just for 1 such day. I'm proud of myself of quick acting seeing #60 tag still on the man, forget waiting for smile , just run and grab thought I. Booking an appointment ahead would take some fun for me although I did it many times but usually with boys I offed already before. I also use ' would I off him just to hold hands?" criteria to assess boy's quality. There were few like this this trip , life is good. Boy #15 apparently according to one of mamasans found another job. I'm not very sentimental about boys and remember there's lot of fish in the see but him I missed truly and with bleeding heart. He had his charms , body and endowements but first of all he had personality. I owe him one of nicest memories of all my trips there, we were walking from Tawan to BBB Inn and he was genuinely happy , doesn't matter it was greed , hunger or me but happy marching with me he was. Phet #51 is still busy and popular, only reason I did not off him again was that whenever I was in bar he was absent or dressed ready to go with lucky somebody. Yes I noticed it that Thaniya seems to be popular with bar boys after shift- saw few Jupiter boys eating there or passing by so it may be good after hours hunting ground for those still empty handed or trying to economize.

It was only time this trip when I took boy without waiting for his smile , this time neglecting my own rule worked well. Body wise for me he is close to perfection , can't think about better built specimen but he 's straight to the bone so while smiling nicely passion is absent , even false one. Prime body worshipping material but not quasi boyfriend one. I will off him in the future given chance and if he recognizes me and smiles. With outlining limitation he was surprisingly easy going, just showering together with such a hunk was worth expense I thought while still wet, LOL. Respecting boys reasonable limits it a must , otherwise meeting may be wasted with one side feeling disrespected but reasonable is a key word. I had a case when boy did not even undress and still wanted full tip ! Others had ones who refused to shower, even alone. This is not even close to reasonable limit. From time to time boys may try to manipulate us and when this happens I don't think we even need to be nice, it's better to pay , even full tip if unavoidable and invite him to see other side of door. I should do this with day 8 ToyBoys boy when he left room for first time. As for persuasion and trying to expand boys limit it actually very nice game and often pays if one is patient , works better on second or subsequent off when boys know us / and trust / better. Can be lot of fun to try to steal his kiss not to mention classic top to bottom conversion. For me as well rushing things and trying to leave before I make hint he can is gravest sin of them all to extend that I rather have a sandbag overstaying his welcome than passionate 1/2 hour finished with "I must go now" according top classic ' you cum , I go script'. But others may react differently losing an interest fast after the deed. All above notwithstanding this trip provided me with the lesson and right away on the first night - if you really like the boy it may pay to put an ideology aside , overlook his previous infractions and give him not second but even third chance. My gut feeling did not fail me and pleasure was doubled not only by boy's passion but also fact that it was not even expected looking in the past.

I saw it in Thailand as well , don't remember which hotel / Raya, Tarntawan , BBB Inn coming to mind / items were carrying hotels labels / stickers so couldn't be replaced by substitution from supermarket

Day 11 Time to return to BKK although no harm would be done if I cancelled my reservation at Nantra and extended stay by day or two but I decided to stick to the plan. Packed fast and shortly after world saw me walking toward Jomtien bath bus stop as this time I decided to return by Jomtien airport bus instead of my usual Ekkamai one from North Bus Station. On the vehicle one good hearted farang noticing that I’m watching route closely while holding luggage ( I’m not that familiar with Jomtien) told me that he will alight at the same stop so I can just follow him stop “because you don’t want to miss your flight”. When I told him I’m just going to BKK using airport bus he was surprised declaring that in many trips he never thought about such a great idea. My luck continued when it turned I purchased last ticket for 11 a.m. bus departing in few minutes. 120 baht and exactly 90 minutes later I alighted at Swampy to a thrill of feeling like I arrived in Thailand again – an additional bonus of using airport bus. Usually we don’t spent much time in the airport but this time in no rush to catch flight or go to the hotel after long flight I wandered a bit surveying shops in the lowest level and having lunch of coconut soup with rice there. Train to Phaya Thai and BTS to Silom , road well travelled for 45+28 baht and after a week I’m back. What is also back is rain , while Pattaya was dry area , Bangkok did not forget that it’s rainy season. There were no hangers in the room so went down to reception to ask for some but always self-sufficient I went to market in soi 3 across and bought 10 of those for 40 baht , my gift to the Nantra. Then had that enlightening moment and decided to go to Senso, along with Arena and Bangkok Massage soi Twilight place I visit every trip. While some are complaining(rightly) about their high prices I never been disappointed there and was hoping my favorite Jack will be there. What is funny and I never know why, after so many visits to all kinds of bars and massage places in Thailand both Arena and Senso are still places when I get some thrill and goose bumps when approaching and I like that feeling. It ‘s like being first time ever and no other places are generating that thrill. My only explanation would be that I never was disappointed in either and now while opening door I noticed somebody I did not expect to see at all .M, star of few of movies from GThai series was back. Last time I was in Senso they told me he left for good and this was corresponding with what he told me when I met him before, that he is going to quit. But he was there in flesh right in front of me beaming smile of surprise at him. So it went without saying I’m taking 1.5 hr. session (1490, minimum tip 1800) as 1 hr. for 1000, min. tip 1200 would definitely not be enough for reunion. As usual in Senso he left me to shower alone and soon after I succumbed to his long and strong strokes, as recorder here in one of my previous reports I considered his massage among 5 best ever. This time he even let me to touch him before massage was over, an option I abused liberally and to top an experience we had good conversation in meantime about his reason to return ( more or less he was bored and missed hustle and bustle of work, too young to live a life of old man as he put it.). Mirror on the wall definitely added to the experience and I noticed he likes to see himself in it as well, a bit of vanity I guess considering his fit and smooth body. One of best moments of this trip, worth such extortionate fee and 2000 tip I left. Then I decided to park myself in one of bars at end of soi 4 to have a dinner there as well as to survey Jupiter boys coming for work. A lot of fun watching waiters trying to entice tourists to patronize their bars and to watch visitors trying to pretend they are in that gay soi by mistake. I was hoping I will catch Oud from Jupiter but did not see him and instead of going inside I decided to go to Jupiter ‘s old location to check on Boy66 bar there . Show was about to start and about 10 boys were presenting themselves on the scene Jupiter style i.e. lacking smile and eye contact. Some of them new and some familiar faces from Jupiter 2002. Not more than 10 people in the audience , me being sole farang rest being Asians and much younger then me at that. Almost right after my drink arrived I was electrified. Tam , former number #60 from Jupiter appeared on the scene wearing the same number. Of all boys I ever saw in Thailand in both bars and massage places he is probably best built and has nicest smile and it was time I had such hots for him that I was ready to fork out 200 $ for chance of having short time with him. Never did though as he was always booked already and did not pay any attention / smile ! / to my presence. On top of that he had a bit of bad publicity , one of our member whose judgement I trust completely advised me against ever engaging him after very , very disappointing off he had with him, an impression reinforced by few equally decisive warnings here and on another forums. But this was then and it was not me, now I knew is my moment or never. Since mamasan was standing right there I asked him to call boy over and he came immediately. Hand shake, drink and immediate confirmation that he will go with me but after show , he will not do long times, is top only and not gay and prefers to make me happy and go as he put it. Quoted 2500 fee, very high even for BKK but with that body I was prepared for perhaps even more had he requested it. The same amount was quoted by mamasan when I paid off fee after Tam left me to take part in the show so perhaps this is what he commands. Show very similar to one in old Jupiter and during performance my newly acquired friend did not even look in my side once but this did not bother me at all , whole excited about second dream come true in one day. I did not expect much so it was easy wait. After the show he duly appeared at my side , promised to show up in 5 minutes dressed and ready to go so all good so far. He did not mind to walk to Nantra which I took as good sign and as we walked it start raining so we ( I) bought an umbrella in 7/11. Some small talk as we walked , English good enough to converse but when asked why he did not move with Jupiter to new place he just shrug off. I know that he was working for a while at Dreamboys. In the room no problems showering together so soaping such great body was quite a thrill and for a straight boy he was quite happy to succumb to my mutilations and worships. True professional although at end he mention he doesn’t enjoy it since he is not gay but If I liked it he is happy for me. All in all I liked it, extremely happy I had a chance to put my hands on such a hunk. He had his limitations but since they were communicated up front I knew what I’m into . Did not notice any attitude either other than quiet resignation that those strange gay people seem to be enamored in him and since they are willing to pay he has no choice other than yielding to their pleasures. I’m glad I finally had a chance to off him and if somebody asks if I’d do then same again answer is firm ‘yes’ as such a body can’t be wasted on girls only. After he left I made my rounds around Silom , Suriwong and Patpong hoping that perhaps unengaged Tawan boys will be still drinking in front of 7/11 but did not see anybody so returned home and went to bed alone sleeping soundly after those two meetings with semi-gods of my dreams. And day 11 was over.