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I'm urban person and always was ( my first 21 years I was living on the main square of city I was born in) and I love Bangkok, perhaps more than any other city I have been and not only because ubiquitous eye candy. Spending vacations in a big city is my idea of fun , while other are frying on the beaches I like to pound the streets but even me, free spender on vacations ( I'm very low maintenance at home so must splurge from time to time for mental sanity ) see that Bangkok is becoming an expensive proposal compared to Pattaya. Still can live with that but recently simply I had better luck with Pattaya boys hence more vacation days allotted to Pattaya and an extension. I think splitting 50/50 may be my plan for a future. This trip another factor kicked in - all days in Pattaya were dry and sunny while Bangkok had expected rains , on two occasion very heavy ones. But joy of Thai rains is that they never last long so it's easy to outwait them by parking oneself over the meal or beside the boy. What sex drive you are talking about ? I just like the boys LOL ( it looks that by coincidence I like the same type like you, ones with no need to worry about their ID ) As for sleepless nights , yes , even boys are impressed by my ability to withstand sleep deprivation but body has it's needs -ask Christian whose knocking to my door did not wake me up until 1 hour later ( day 3) Vinapu is a lamb who is getting some energy by getting intimate with boys I don't travel that far to see one boy a day, I need to get something for my buck and time spent flying he was massage boy and I took him after his shift was over so technically he was free from work shackles but he sounded sincere and I have no reason to doubt him as I had that before in BKK , boy grabbed from street in front of shop after work and still I was charged massage fee for taking him home. Happens rarely but it does . I can live with that even if it's just boy's enterprise. Last thing I need is boy having trouble because of me. It was whole night after all . Meal at Alt Heidelberg costs me 300 / beer and tip included / to keep things in perspective.

Day 10 Very pleasant , sunny weather with quite strong breeze from seaside so I decided to spent it on my feet and set off for long walk along the Beach Rd to Dusit Thani . What was shocking was filth on the beach , certainly such popular resort , even if of dubious reputation should do much better. At Dusit turned inland to Dolphin andNaklua Rd and marchedall the way to Sanctuary of Truth . Last time I visited place back in 2015. Did not go in but returned to Dolphin circle and kept marching along Second Rd stopping here and there. Had fish massage in a store close to Central Festival Mall and repaired my cracked heels by forcing myself to do pedicure for first time ever. Certainly Pattaya class is seeping into my head. Visited Night Market nearby to buy another multipocketed shorts. Wandering about the market I spotted very interesting stand selling wall clocks, very fancy ones, one of the kind type. Did not ask for price and don’t expect them to be cheap but certainly having device like that on the wall would be talk of family and friends, Now , typing this I think it was mistake not to buy one. Another reason to visit Pattaya in the future. Finally arrived to BT but stopped in the hotel just to freshen up and then set off for Pratamnak Hill, This is my 7th visit in PTT and never been there so decided it’s long overdue. Great vistas from Big Buddha and even greater from other side where admiral statue is. Pretty big crowds there due to several tour buses parked on the pass disgorging hundreds of noisy Chinese visitors. Down to Walking str and walk toward hotel with dinner stop at Alt Heidelberg again. It was darkening already when I returned to the soi to take well deserved shower and shave for my last Pattaya night. As every day parked myself at Oscar to have some beer with boys and distribute some tips as token of appreciation for fun I had there daily. Soon williewillie showed up with his farang friend and few patrons who were daily visitors just like me. Oscars provides perfect vantage point for BBB boys coming for work and in meantime exercising in front of the bar. And who it was? Art and super handsome Cambodian I spotted another day. I should forfeit Nantra Silom reservation and stay there for one or two days more to have a chance to put my hands on that man. Sometimes we are just slow thinkers and it does us no good. Hope he still will be there next time but who knows. Seeing those two exercising together was true balm to the eyes but as soon as my beer was finished I waved Art with let’s go motion, paid 500 off fee, forced 100 again into Cambodian’s pants and followed Art to my room. It was actually head turning march since being right after exercising he decided to walk to the hotel bare chested , quite a sight, quite a sight believe you me. Good thing I had small bottle of SongSom in the room he was kind to help me to empty but we did not forget about massage and exercises. Again one of best massages I had. I asked him about lady he was sitting and drinking with yesterday. It was just talk and drink , no off and only 100 baht tip. Now I understand that sometimes patrons are snatching boys sitting with others. I should do the same yesterday. Since I had Ko already arranged for tonight I lost all hope of having long time with Art and Cambodian but at least I have a motivation to return. Never during those days I forget that I’m missing one more boy, Bank . Veteran of 10 offs and 5 days trip to BKK was missing this time but was assured by few mamasans and boys that he will be back. Fine but will I be back? Big hope YES. Not long before midnight I made trek with him back to the bar for last chance to shed some money of my pockets. Keow the hunk, beautiful Cambodian, one more veteran and one of mamasans who recognized me in the first evening got some parting notes At midnight I left , grabbed Ko from Copa but not before extracting another hug from Kao who showed up today after few days of absence. Another energetic night with Ko, quite fitting for that fabulous , eye candy filled week in Pattaya. Tip the same , he said boss charged him off fee last night , no way of verifying that and not even desire on my part so gave him that 400 extra. We finish day 10 with breakfast , this time back to normal, mine was an American and his Asian one. Good bye Boyztown !

power of forgiveness perhaps, I'm more sympathetic to his position since one of my best offs last trip was boy who stood me up, perhaps even twice, in the past

and they improve an outlook on life helping to see always full half of glass

nothing to argue , number is 57

he must be travelling to provinces since he did not visit us for almost a week, I'll send him PM to remind him to visit this thread by the way some nice bodies in the video but I don't find those fundoshis they are wearing sexy

whatever I consider needs to be locked is locked before I leave room. I'd not be locking / hiding anything in presence of boy in the room even if he would be hidding in the toilet, this would be impolite and invite retaliation like stealing bottle from the fridge, LOL Only case I approach safe in presence of boy is at end of meeting if I need money for him but I tend to be prepared with cash somewhere handy.

as explained in my post above I definitely don't agree with your statements. It could be a theft but definitely neither 'exactly' nor 'clearly'

welcome to the forum and don't worry about posting in the wrong board, you placed your post where it belongs. fact that you used quotation marks in "theft" shows me and probably all others that you are decent man. All my remaining hair are grey for long time but I still consider worst day on my life when as first -grader I was accused of stealing an expensive pen, which of course turned out to be never taken to school by girl I was sitting with and who accused me of theft. But that day was true horror for me 7 y.o. and even now typing it 50 odd years later I think my blood pressure is rising to 220/150 at recollection. Never accuse anybody of stealing unless you are 100 % sure it was a case. ChristianPFC on his blog recently reported theft by the boy but since all is on camera that's fair, not to mention he likes the boy and still is willing to see him , next time with better lock I presume In what you described chances it was premeditated theft are rather 10 not 100 % . First, we are not even sure bottle was there, somebody above described such a case and I had the same at BBB Inn when I noticed an invoice in my key slot on reception for a beer which was not even in the fridge when I checked into room. I just shrugged it off noticing absence but it was not a smart move as one can see. Fortunately hotel took my word for it and invoice was voided. Second , even if boy took it , it would be rude move not asking for permission but hardly theft for two reasons : 1. he may not to be as worldly to know that contents of bar are chargeable to occupant , instead of assuming that whatever is there is like soap or shampoo in the washroom or free water provided by hotel , disposable thing to be taken if one desires or 1a. he may be actually worldly enough to be entertained already in some higher end hotel where contents of bar were free or he was told by generous patron they they are free so he could assume now is the same case. Second reason and this definitely applies to all boys who were hosted by me is: 2. he assumed that whatever is in a fridge is actually yours, I like to stock my fridge with some Hong Thong, can or two of beer , few juices and milk drinks so he may think you do the same. Helping himself is rude but as Z909 noticed above , not offering him a drink is rude as well so we have pot and kettle case. Whatever happened I'd chalk it off to experience and definitely would not ask a boy if he knows bottle's whereabouts. Armed with that BBB experience if fridge is full I always check contents with the inventory list and report discrepancies. If hosting boy , I'm not shy to tell him what he can drink / mine / and what he can't / hotel's/ and by showing him price list , explain why. Never had complain or face although from time to time boy grabs in the middle of the night drink he should not but it's hardly disaster although I rather give that extra 100 baht to him than to fat capitalists owning hotel. Uff, blood pressure back to 120/80

I'm of firm believing that such mandated mournings are actually disrespectful to a deceased and patronizing , like grown people are assumed to need an instruction how to behave and dress during funeral.

I agree that mooks are very unsightly but sometimes one needs to take bad with good. At least two of the boys I still remember good while after I saw them last time including one I count best of them all, had them. Silicone deformed cock is even worse but again if rest is perfect I take whole inventory. For me it seems that even angels in the paradise have some deficiencies at times. But I understand that both mooks and silicone may be reasons to sent boy back to the stage or even home with some tip of course as I consider getting acquainted with boys privates tipping activity as long as we made the move.

Amen / with wind in the back I know literal meaning of 'too much of good thing' saying, in my younger years while hiking mountains with heavy backpack I was still knocked down by the said wind being no more than 2 meters from the chasm , still have goose bumps at recollection/

that would be an exaggeration but she has her advantages like pricing and 3 reasonable priced hotels in the thick of the action. I wish we had the same in soi Twilight. There's something to be said about Pattaya though - second trip in row I liked Pattaya part a bit better than BKK one but no, when comes to vibrancy Bangkok wins big time.

you got it right !

Day 9 Quite early breakfast left me some time to catch up with news and internet and then leisurely walk to Bali Hai to catch my ferry to Hua Hin. I was a bit later than recommended 9 a.m., boarding procedures airport like . In the shaded waiting room there are no facilities and no bar so make sure you have something to drink if you think you may need it. For trip there I opted for business class on the upper deck where party room with 8 seats which can be booked for 14000 one way is also located but I did not see any takers. Seats are assigned , we were treated with refreshing towel and two drinks and on the dot at 10 a.m. ferry sailed toward Hua Hin. Sea was quiet, weather sunny and whole trip was very uneventful I even dozed of for a while . It took exactly 2 hrs to get to Hua Hin pier where passengers were greeted with multitude of taxi touts. Apparently fare downtown is fixed at 200 baht but me , having only 1 hr in disposal admired climbable rock rising out of the sea right at pier and strolled about the beach , quite quiet at that noon hour. Boarding procedures the same, on return trip I economized by taking economy class , at 1250, 300 baht cheaper than business one and comfortable enough. No need to splurge unless one is inclined to or ferry would be crowded which was not a case today, perhaps 20 % of seats were occupied only , if that much. We were treated with drink. It looks that there are facilities for a bar on the ferry but nothing was operational so again bring your own refreshments. Again smooth sailing , just 2 hours from 1 to 3 and Pattaya emerging from the sea looked actually quite impressive on that sunny day. Very positive experience and highly recommended as bus trip probably would take 5-6 hrs. Ferry is very comfortable and while 1250 fare is not exactly cheap for Thailand found it good value for money considering comfort and time savings. For those vacationing at either end it provides an option for nice break for day or two in somebody is inclined. After spending good part of day so far sitting I gladly had a circular walk to BT by way of Tuk Com, passing by quiet Sunee on my way and treating myself with banana pancake somewhere. Back in hotel shower and walk across the soi to Body Club at Ambiance where since arrival I’m spying very hunky masseur so time to succumb to his mutilations. Other boy I had massage with 2 days ago seemed disappointed it was not him this time but all deserve their access to my pocket and hunks have kind of priority. Great body and strong massage , what was surprising for boy with such a massive muscular body he was a bit feminine in behavior and speech or at least that was my impression but with this kind of body I feel he deserved 1500 baht tip. Well massaged went to metal table restaurant near XBoys/ I’m sure she has name , I just did not get it / for my usual monodietc treat of chicken with cashew nuts although as remarked before , in Pattaya Wiener schnitzel from Alt Heidelberg gives cashews run for money. Then my daily beer and fun conversation with boys at Oscars and after a while jump to BBB hoping Art will be available for 2-3 hr session but he was sitting with some Oriental lady in the first row helping her to empty sizable bottle of whisky. I noticed one extremely handsome faced boy in track pants on the stage , from mamasan I learned he is Cambodian and I must say so handsome that I just could sit and look at him to no end. Unfortunately after I slipped 100 baht in his pants he disappeared , presumably in preparation for the show and I decided to check 360 bar as they advertised also show at 10.30. Very neat and modern , strangely shaped but I liked it. Only 5 spectators , show brief with three numbers but quite well presented and erotic and I liked it. Another, after ferry and massage at Ambiance with the hunk positive experience , I’d say 360 would be my 2nd choice as a bar after BBB in Pattaya. Distant second but still second. Sure XBoys has more explicit show but is smoke and loud music infested so only fits on the podium as third . Drink 200. About 8 boys , next door type and definitely off material if only I was in PTT longer. Tipped 100 baht one best looking on departure as is my habit and returned to soi 3 since previously I arranged that I take Ko , the masseur for Copa who did not show up few days ago for long time. Very energetic at massage and almost as good looking as his co-worker Kao. Not exactly quiet night which taking into consideration his energy was expected. 2000 plus 400 off fee in case they will charge him even if I took him at end of his shift another energizing encounter funded by well spent money.. And I did not waste an opportunity to secure his presence for next night tonight, I don’t even recall who suggested it first , me or him but certainly it was good idea. I like Pattaya more and more. So day 9 finished with breakfast together , today for fun he had my American breakfast and I his Asian one.

I'm pretty sure it was a case as they meant business and did not come to Pattaya for shopping and dining that's right , I had big fun those two days / and two LT offs for just 2000 each/ some people like to splurge on shopping , others on dining and others still on fancy room in hotels and that is all fine. I stay in executive room which was a bit bigger and bit more expensive than standard one and completely sufficient for what I need. I rarely have a need to fancy accommodation and my selling poit to book New Cafe was breakfast for two included in a rate so I fed myself and most of my boys. Actually one of those days that breakfast was only meal I had in the whole day. I don't think I claimed that off was lousy because I paid only 2000, I just noticed that this trip my best offs by some distance were those I overpaid ( raising some blood pressures as by product ). But yes , day 8 boy was lousy , I think he did not like me for some reason and that's fine. it's why when he decided to go to buy some food in middle of the night I gave him 1000 and truly hoped that he will not return but he did so I decided to stick to my side of bargain as well. BBB yes but still about half if not more boys available are staying inside. Usually those who are working long time there are those who are seen on the veranda during show. Tawan no, I don't recall boys loitering outside other than drinking on the steps of 7/11 on the corner after bar closes. As for cute twinks to my surprise on of those nights Tawan presented boy # 8, real twink completely out of sync with other boys so quite possible they are looking at diversification. They always had some smaller boys on duty , after all Boy #15 I offed several times from there was not a hunk nor bodybuilder at all.

there's no better time than first time, you will have FUN / Fucking Until Numb/

no problem at all for simple reason, according to sources I trust none of those 203 deaths was actually me despite being in Thailand 3 times in 2016.

I don't think z909 questioned data at all, just it's frivolous / sensationalist interpretation by ABC

at 49 baht it's not a bargain, bottle or can cost less

Day 8 Today is last day I have hotel reservation in New Café Royal and one I planned to make a decision what to do in next two days- stay in Pattaya or return to Bangkok. If stay in Pattaya , question to answer is where, still in BT or move to either Sunee or Jomtien. This was plan devised before I came here. This morning in view of last two days I don’t have any doubts what I want to do - stay here in BT where I belong and have fun so far. Handsome receptionist in New Café Royal was kind to leave me in the same room for the same price I paid originally with benefit of breakfast for two as in original reservation. I paid 2720 for those additional two nights and took motorsai taxi to Bali Hai pier to buy tickets for ferry to Hua Hin and back. This I had planned in case I will stay in Pattaya. I don’t have any interest in Hua Hin but for fun wanted to see how this new acclaimed ferry works. Ferry has separate ticket office in the pier building on the 2nd floor and is very well posted, There was no problem with getting ticket but girl there seemed to find exotic an idea of me sailing there and immediately back in the same day and called another girl with better English. I can swear that Thai words she said to her were something like ‘ this farang is so stupid I can’t believe so you better confirm if I’m hearing him right” . Confirmed that this is what I really want I got my tickets . For trip there business class for 1550 and for sailing back economy one for 1250, total of 2800, sounds like off fee, drink and boy’s tip. I was instructed to be at pier 1 hour before once a day 10 a.m. departure. Rest of day spent wandering lazily here and there about Pattaya sois and Beach Rd with sole aim of wasting time and energy. After al today is breaking point of my trip and from evening I’m closer to departure than arrival. Just before sun set another dinner in Alt Heidelberg restaurant. Wait for my meal shortened by being chatted up by typical example of one of sad faced Pattaya expats with litany of complains how expensive it is and how demanding and greedy girls become in comparison to glory days of past and even my habitual phrase that in the past even water was more wet was met with approving and compassionate understanding. Then is was time to return to soi and as usual have a seat at Oscars where I found williewillie parked already boys in conversation with freshly arrived in Thailand two young Russians. I did not waste that opportunity to switch to Russian if only to impress them and boost my self-esteem by them being impressed. It worked, LOL. Since they expressed an interest in special show we instructed them to check XBoys . In meantime I kept an eye on goings around BBB and for a good reason - I wanted another massage from Art .As it turned he also was keeping watchful eye and as soon as he saw me he came to make sure I’m still interested in his company tonight. Mutual understanding at it’s best. At 9.00 p.m. I went to the bar , paid off fee of 500 and we marched back to hotel , not sure who was happier but we both were. Still he did not want long time but was not in the rush to leave so we had good 2.50 – 3 hrs together not exactly spent discussing world peace but some conversation we had. Again great , fast paced , long stoked massage and great time together, another candidate for only hand holding session. I actually never did it but for my personal use if I classify boy they I could off him only to hold hands with him , dressed or not, it means he is top of top of the line for me. There are few of those brilliants still in business and at end of day primary reason to fly half globe across. Just before midnigt he left and I was in no mood to sleep in the cold bed so decided to check only bar in the soi I did not visit this trip, you are right – Toy Boy. Since there’s circulating opinion that those lingering outside are just bait or available for girls only I was not even in the mood to check accuracy of those claims and went inside. As before and it was not my first time in that bar on offer are mostly twinks , among them one Vietnamese boy discussed and showed in this forum not long ago. Nice face but slim bodied I kind of had problem to chose one I’d like to take with me , few were smiling at me , making inviting gestures etc so finally settled on one who had hair style I like. If can’t have muscle at least I will have some face to look at. Waved over drink bought to smooth up an interview process. Long time OK wants 2500, 2000 offer accepted. Usual question ‘ do you want et something?’ answered ‘yes” ,” where you want to go?” , ‘up to you” so we went to my favorite metal tables on corner of soi where XBoys are but half way to, all of the sudden he changed mind that he is not hungry and we can go to the room. So we went and it was quite OK but after few hours , it was like 4 a.m. he woke me up asking for some money because he wants to go to Wat Chai to buy some food because he’s hungry. Not a good sign so I gave him half agreed tip / 1000/ and went to bed not even sure he will return- I had cases like that ending with no-show. But after while knock to door wake me up, he was back. Then in 15 minutes he needs to smoke, OK open window and smoke. Back to bed for ½ hr. perhaps , he needs to go to 7/11 to buy some cigarettes and a beer. Firm candidate to one of worst offs ever thought I and when he returned , opened beer for me and him and after few gulps asked whether he can go I gave him my permission and other 1000 of agreed tip, happy him and happy me that he is gone. So much for those economical long time rates I thought. Since it was 6 a.m. already I decided on early breakfast and waiter did not say anything but clearly was a bit surprised seeing me sitting alone . Not exactly thrilling end of day 8 but look at full half of glass – at least it was over.

As stated many times before I tend to fix tip beforehand, Sure , time is very important to me but I don't bother with LT / ST classifications. "I will stay till 4 " , "how much you want" is negotiation's tune I employ. I doubt I'm kind and don't mind to be classified as having good heart , I'm just not as preoccupied with compensation issues as to count every satang. I like to be happy and boys to be happy too , at end of day it works for me. Few nights this trip were really fabulous but at times , yes, boys are pissing me off. See day 8 report in few minutes. Brutal truth about last trip is - most expensive offs were the most enjoyable, market economy at it's best it seems as I got what I paid for.

Ambiance massage is called Body CLub I guess. As long as I remember all three, Copa , Body Club and Scandic were always collecting boy minimum tip up front. I always check with boys what is their share and tip accordingly i.e . if his tip is 500 from price I paid I give him at least 500 since my usual rate for 1 hr massage is 1000 at least , more if I like boy or massage or both better. I don't think shops are cheating boys, those I had more than once would say something I guess When I took Kao from Copa , receptionist asked him how much he should charge and I paid 400 requested. Thus I know what is boy's share,presumably Kao told him I'm safe and he is sure I will tip him fairly / he got 1200 /

I'm glad you liked Alt Heidelberg it and hope they still be around when I return.That signature dish there it's just as one I remember as Sunday dinner from home. Twinks are not my style but I'm not ideological about that like some members who are proud of never setting foot in say , Tawan . From time to time I give twinks a chance and visit their bars regularly. Sure it was not illusion, you saw it rightly , employing them to lap sitting position is my way of saving them, from starvation. When visit bar and expect to sit there for a bit , usually I call some boy over just to have somebody warm sitting beside. Doesn't cost much and we both happy. that's my assessment as well even if I like Tawan boys better It can't as far as I can see but I go to Thailand to enjoy good /. eventful LT with the boys and can't care less about having good night sleep. How I do it , I don't even know , it must be an adrenaline but I sleep very little and as illustrated still drive big hunks to a desperation , LOL Boys are not machines and activities need to be tailored to their ability. From my experience , even those who need to leave early are not against early morning activities. That hunks are against morning activities , that's novelty to me. you will be happy with either one for sure. Yes , BBB are packing an audience nightly just like Dreamboys. And if pricing level is too high there are other bars within 10 m radius. But 800 off fee for the show boys even such liberal person as me considers unreasonable but if needs to be paid I rather gnash my teeth and pay instead of missing a date with boy I like.

and if crowded there's another salt water pool nearby, it's called the sea