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It's well known to science that young , world trotting travelers may be keen to finance part of their trip by exchanging access to their body for cash or stealing from other travelers in the hostels. First option is definitely more preferable I guess.

I stay corrected although as we both know metrics for my consumption are very different, LOL

It would depend if boy is sitting alone or with others and also of I know boy personally from previous offs or jus from seeing him in bar. Boy sitting alone - If I offed him previously and I liked experience I'd join him immediately even if not intended to off him , probably ordered drink for both of us , chated him a bit and most likely offered to pay for his meal if any. This should improve karma and chances of getting that smile next time I see him on the stage. If I know him only from bar but never met before I'd leave him alone if not intended to off him tonight unless we got an eye contact than I'd say ' Hi mister Tawan / Jupiter / Super A/ whatever" thus giving me a chance for that smile in the bar next time. The same if I meet boy walking on the street, always greet him if we got an eye contact. If I like to off sitting alone boy in any case I'd approach, invite myself to seat beside /across the table and without much decorum ask him ' are you free tonight" if 'yes" ' do you go with me tonight" , if 'Yes" than do my usual time and tip negotiations . Boys are in the business so no need to built sophisticated conversation structures. If boy is sitting with other boys I'd first try to get an eye contact and if got one motion him to step for second of semi- private chat. If no eye contact achieved I'd not be stepping to join a party unless 100% sure all members of party are bar boys - this is sometimes a case of Tawan boys having drink in front of 7/11 after bar closed. With their boys since my face is somewhat recognized by at least a few I's not have any hang ups of joining them if only to have a chat or shake hands. But generally as always I try not to push myself into boy's arms to to speak but rather wait for a signal from him he is interested or at least he acknowledges my presence. Case of #60 on day 11 was an exception , due to his popularity I decided to act right away. It was the same with Mekhin from old Jupiter in December. I remember old song my father used to hum 'good luck smiles at us only once" and sometimes it pays to forget about our own rules and inhibitions. Hope it helped

Day 12 For a change lonely breakfast at Foodland , then some internet and a bit of tourist program. I took Chao Praya Express boat to Tha Thewet pier / 15 baht / , than walked to Bank of Thailand museum newly opened in old palace near Rama VIII bridge. that's the bridge as seen from the grounds Weekdays museum is opened by an appointment only for groups of at least 20 but on Saturdays there’s free access with 4 guided tours at 10.30, 11.30, 12.30 and 1.30, each tour takes 100 visitors on first come, first served basis. Since today is only Thursday I was turned away but it was expected. From there tuk-tuk to Sanam Luang to get a glimpse of structure containing crematorium for the late King funeral in October. Did not see much as area is fenced off , construction still going and hordes of both mourners and tourists crowding sidewalks and streets. But people watching was interesting and I had another motive in mind. Today Bank Of Thailand released for circulation new banknotes commemorating life of the late King. Faces are identical to currently circulated but reverses are different showing different scenes from monarch’s life and works. I was prepared to pay premium, there were few vendors offering them for 2000 per set while face value is 1670 (20, 50, 100, 500 and 1000 ) but I found somebody offering set for 1800, reasonable 130 baht extra and purchased it meeting my goal for the day. To return I took Chao Praya Turist Boat, more expensive than regular boat but with guaranteed seat. It circulates between Saphan Taksin and Tha Thewet , departures are every 30 minutes . Day ticket costs 180 allowing unlimited hop-on, hop-off option while one ride one can be purchased for 50 and this is what I did. 3 times cost of regular boat but still very reasonable and comfortable and comfortable with announcements in English. It’s not new concept but now is much better organized and easy to go about, Recommended wholeheartedly, worth extra 35 baht. At 6 I was expecting Christian PFC, jet lag disappeared long time ago so this time I could open door, not like 1 week ago when I felled down to jet lag and did not even hear his knocking. We discussed sightseeing plans for tonight and tomorrow, I showed him new banknotes and we went to Madrid Tavern in Patpong for treat of their pizzas . As usual we ordered two different and shared them 50/50 but there pizza is always good, whatever one chooses and this comes from vinapu who normally doesn’t even consider pizza fit for human consumption. I shared with him my impressions from week in Pattaya and Christian suggested we check on Super A in soi 6. Off we went. Since my last visit in May 2015 they spruced it a bit , it seemed cleaner and lights a bit brighter although it’s still pretty dark inside. Even nicer surprise were boys , although dressed in jeans and shirts quite a few out of about 8 present turned out to be quite good looking , not hunky but boy next door types, at least three offing material for me. Christian is more demanding but even him spied somebody attractive who disappeared upstairs to sleep but he did not accept excuse and asked to bring boy downstairs to treat him with a tip. In meantime some other farang appeared and I invited one of boys for a drink and gentle indecent touches which shortly turned out to be more smart than I thought. Heavens opened with an impressive rain and we were trapped inside , not a bad thing considering both us were entertained by somebody we liked. Just before 9 p.m. rain suddenly stopped and we left , my companion 300 baht richer than before rain. Whole soi 6 was under ankle deep water but fortunately Christian had flip-flops and I some plastic Birkenstocks so we just waded through it to Suriwong. Passing by Tawan we just peek inside but as expected Christian did not see anybody even remotely attractive and I had other plans for tonight. Surprisingly , few minutes after such heavy rain streets came to life like nothing happened. Next stop was Hot Male upstairs and we arrived just before show. Other than us there were only 2 other patrons but they decided to carry on with show anyways . On stage I recognized few boys from the past , few tips were distributed , Christian also met few faces already known to him and shorty after the show we parted our ways. He went home and I set for Jupiter in soi 4 hoping to finally reunite with Oud, successful transplant from Tawan and boy I offed already 8 times this century. Show was almost over last number being shower show Oud was in so I did not wait long and as soon as he was free we set of to Thaniya to get some food. I walked and he came soon after on his new shiny motorcycle , donation from his Chinese lady customer I saw in the bar last week. Now how I look like being called two week millionaire here in comparison of such lavish compensation ? I feel like cheap Charlie on sale, LOL.. But I did not expect any fuss and rightly so from boy who always calls me ‘my vinapu’ and once claimed ‘if you happy I happy”. Only thing I noticed was that with his recent good fortune he was bit more confident than before and it showed even on the stage. He treated himself with some insects treats but I politely declined to partake. As expected from such a veteran of many offs in the room all went according to well rehearsed routine we have minus serious reduction in whisky we shared – looks he is serious about being now motorcycle driver. In the morning he even made sure I’m happy by asking “ do you like me ? ” Usual 3000 LT tip accepted with smile, this was part we did not discuss beforehand as I assumed with so many offs before we both know what we get from each other. Again , motorcycle trip to Foodland Patpong for breakfast , slightly unusual as for drink he asked for milk, second only time I saw Thai boy drinking milk. I finish day 12 by being driven on his impressive machine to Hualampong but this is story for day 13.

you are not descendant of king Herod, that's for sure

stay where you belong

I already posted it twice here over the years but will refresh story again - either in 2015 or 16 at Raya I was witness of quite a commotion when departing guest loudly accused staff of taking some sum from his deposit box. Few days later on one of our boards but not here , some poster admitted openly to making himself a fool at Raya and accusing them of stealing money he subsequently found in his luggage and recalling of placing it there himself. At least he had guts to admit mistake publicly , not sure he apologized to staff at Raya though.

it's still there

with just that one line you spoiled all our fun and OP is not even sure bottle was there at the first place

fine, but still I fail to see reason of treating gambling problems as lighter than other social problems you mentioned

I like to wake up with somebody smooth, brown skinned with cock attached in the same bed if only for the feeling but morning gymnastics are energizing. If you want something usually energy to find it comes along although not always hunt yields. I think I'm motivated enough by curiosity to learn of what happens next, only thing left on me from that long gone youth.

now that you mentioned it I think it's great idea but to avoid inflation I'd restrict use of SUPER LIKE to 1-3 a day max. That's true sometimes posts are moving us and deserve to be marked as such. "I DON'T LIKE " button would be useful too , if only to avoid excessive bitching and arguments trading ping-pong. That's true , day 11 was one of those I felt were worth flying all the way just for 1 such day. I'm proud of myself of quick acting seeing #60 tag still on the man, forget waiting for smile , just run and grab thought I. Booking an appointment ahead would take some fun for me although I did it many times but usually with boys I offed already before. I also use ' would I off him just to hold hands?" criteria to assess boy's quality. There were few like this this trip , life is good. Boy #15 apparently according to one of mamasans found another job. I'm not very sentimental about boys and remember there's lot of fish in the see but him I missed truly and with bleeding heart. He had his charms , body and endowements but first of all he had personality. I owe him one of nicest memories of all my trips there, we were walking from Tawan to BBB Inn and he was genuinely happy , doesn't matter it was greed , hunger or me but happy marching with me he was. Phet #51 is still busy and popular, only reason I did not off him again was that whenever I was in bar he was absent or dressed ready to go with lucky somebody. Yes I noticed it that Thaniya seems to be popular with bar boys after shift- saw few Jupiter boys eating there or passing by so it may be good after hours hunting ground for those still empty handed or trying to economize.

It was only time this trip when I took boy without waiting for his smile , this time neglecting my own rule worked well. Body wise for me he is close to perfection , can't think about better built specimen but he 's straight to the bone so while smiling nicely passion is absent , even false one. Prime body worshipping material but not quasi boyfriend one. I will off him in the future given chance and if he recognizes me and smiles. With outlining limitation he was surprisingly easy going, just showering together with such a hunk was worth expense I thought while still wet, LOL. Respecting boys reasonable limits it a must , otherwise meeting may be wasted with one side feeling disrespected but reasonable is a key word. I had a case when boy did not even undress and still wanted full tip ! Others had ones who refused to shower, even alone. This is not even close to reasonable limit. From time to time boys may try to manipulate us and when this happens I don't think we even need to be nice, it's better to pay , even full tip if unavoidable and invite him to see other side of door. I should do this with day 8 ToyBoys boy when he left room for first time. As for persuasion and trying to expand boys limit it actually very nice game and often pays if one is patient , works better on second or subsequent off when boys know us / and trust / better. Can be lot of fun to try to steal his kiss not to mention classic top to bottom conversion. For me as well rushing things and trying to leave before I make hint he can is gravest sin of them all to extend that I rather have a sandbag overstaying his welcome than passionate 1/2 hour finished with "I must go now" according top classic ' you cum , I go script'. But others may react differently losing an interest fast after the deed. All above notwithstanding this trip provided me with the lesson and right away on the first night - if you really like the boy it may pay to put an ideology aside , overlook his previous infractions and give him not second but even third chance. My gut feeling did not fail me and pleasure was doubled not only by boy's passion but also fact that it was not even expected looking in the past.

I saw it in Thailand as well , don't remember which hotel / Raya, Tarntawan , BBB Inn coming to mind / items were carrying hotels labels / stickers so couldn't be replaced by substitution from supermarket

Day 11 Time to return to BKK although no harm would be done if I cancelled my reservation at Nantra and extended stay by day or two but I decided to stick to the plan. Packed fast and shortly after world saw me walking toward Jomtien bath bus stop as this time I decided to return by Jomtien airport bus instead of my usual Ekkamai one from North Bus Station. On the vehicle one good hearted farang noticing that I’m watching route closely while holding luggage ( I’m not that familiar with Jomtien) told me that he will alight at the same stop so I can just follow him stop “because you don’t want to miss your flight”. When I told him I’m just going to BKK using airport bus he was surprised declaring that in many trips he never thought about such a great idea. My luck continued when it turned I purchased last ticket for 11 a.m. bus departing in few minutes. 120 baht and exactly 90 minutes later I alighted at Swampy to a thrill of feeling like I arrived in Thailand again – an additional bonus of using airport bus. Usually we don’t spent much time in the airport but this time in no rush to catch flight or go to the hotel after long flight I wandered a bit surveying shops in the lowest level and having lunch of coconut soup with rice there. Train to Phaya Thai and BTS to Silom , road well travelled for 45+28 baht and after a week I’m back. What is also back is rain , while Pattaya was dry area , Bangkok did not forget that it’s rainy season. There were no hangers in the room so went down to reception to ask for some but always self-sufficient I went to market in soi 3 across and bought 10 of those for 40 baht , my gift to the Nantra. Then had that enlightening moment and decided to go to Senso, along with Arena and Bangkok Massage soi Twilight place I visit every trip. While some are complaining(rightly) about their high prices I never been disappointed there and was hoping my favorite Jack will be there. What is funny and I never know why, after so many visits to all kinds of bars and massage places in Thailand both Arena and Senso are still places when I get some thrill and goose bumps when approaching and I like that feeling. It ‘s like being first time ever and no other places are generating that thrill. My only explanation would be that I never was disappointed in either and now while opening door I noticed somebody I did not expect to see at all .M, star of few of movies from GThai series was back. Last time I was in Senso they told me he left for good and this was corresponding with what he told me when I met him before, that he is going to quit. But he was there in flesh right in front of me beaming smile of surprise at him. So it went without saying I’m taking 1.5 hr. session (1490, minimum tip 1800) as 1 hr. for 1000, min. tip 1200 would definitely not be enough for reunion. As usual in Senso he left me to shower alone and soon after I succumbed to his long and strong strokes, as recorder here in one of my previous reports I considered his massage among 5 best ever. This time he even let me to touch him before massage was over, an option I abused liberally and to top an experience we had good conversation in meantime about his reason to return ( more or less he was bored and missed hustle and bustle of work, too young to live a life of old man as he put it.). Mirror on the wall definitely added to the experience and I noticed he likes to see himself in it as well, a bit of vanity I guess considering his fit and smooth body. One of best moments of this trip, worth such extortionate fee and 2000 tip I left. Then I decided to park myself in one of bars at end of soi 4 to have a dinner there as well as to survey Jupiter boys coming for work. A lot of fun watching waiters trying to entice tourists to patronize their bars and to watch visitors trying to pretend they are in that gay soi by mistake. I was hoping I will catch Oud from Jupiter but did not see him and instead of going inside I decided to go to Jupiter ‘s old location to check on Boy66 bar there . Show was about to start and about 10 boys were presenting themselves on the scene Jupiter style i.e. lacking smile and eye contact. Some of them new and some familiar faces from Jupiter 2002. Not more than 10 people in the audience , me being sole farang rest being Asians and much younger then me at that. Almost right after my drink arrived I was electrified. Tam , former number #60 from Jupiter appeared on the scene wearing the same number. Of all boys I ever saw in Thailand in both bars and massage places he is probably best built and has nicest smile and it was time I had such hots for him that I was ready to fork out 200 $ for chance of having short time with him. Never did though as he was always booked already and did not pay any attention / smile ! / to my presence. On top of that he had a bit of bad publicity , one of our member whose judgement I trust completely advised me against ever engaging him after very , very disappointing off he had with him, an impression reinforced by few equally decisive warnings here and on another forums. But this was then and it was not me, now I knew is my moment or never. Since mamasan was standing right there I asked him to call boy over and he came immediately. Hand shake, drink and immediate confirmation that he will go with me but after show , he will not do long times, is top only and not gay and prefers to make me happy and go as he put it. Quoted 2500 fee, very high even for BKK but with that body I was prepared for perhaps even more had he requested it. The same amount was quoted by mamasan when I paid off fee after Tam left me to take part in the show so perhaps this is what he commands. Show very similar to one in old Jupiter and during performance my newly acquired friend did not even look in my side once but this did not bother me at all , whole excited about second dream come true in one day. I did not expect much so it was easy wait. After the show he duly appeared at my side , promised to show up in 5 minutes dressed and ready to go so all good so far. He did not mind to walk to Nantra which I took as good sign and as we walked it start raining so we ( I) bought an umbrella in 7/11. Some small talk as we walked , English good enough to converse but when asked why he did not move with Jupiter to new place he just shrug off. I know that he was working for a while at Dreamboys. In the room no problems showering together so soaping such great body was quite a thrill and for a straight boy he was quite happy to succumb to my mutilations and worships. True professional although at end he mention he doesn’t enjoy it since he is not gay but If I liked it he is happy for me. All in all I liked it, extremely happy I had a chance to put my hands on such a hunk. He had his limitations but since they were communicated up front I knew what I’m into . Did not notice any attitude either other than quiet resignation that those strange gay people seem to be enamored in him and since they are willing to pay he has no choice other than yielding to their pleasures. I’m glad I finally had a chance to off him and if somebody asks if I’d do then same again answer is firm ‘yes’ as such a body can’t be wasted on girls only. After he left I made my rounds around Silom , Suriwong and Patpong hoping that perhaps unengaged Tawan boys will be still drinking in front of 7/11 but did not see anybody so returned home and went to bed alone sleeping soundly after those two meetings with semi-gods of my dreams. And day 11 was over.

my favorites if you ask apart from Bangkok are Istanbul, Paris, London , Berlin , Toronto, Rome and New York

thank you I try to treat them well since my modus operandi is long time off so I figured if I will play host for them for full work shift I better be nice , make sure they are well fed and have access to drinks in my fridge. I don't mind looking at little twinky boys but they are my types but believe all bars deserve our material support so I visit all bars in some kind of rotation. Bar lottery winning unfortunately period you will be there is out of question for me still slaving at work

I doubt it , he considers everybody over 41.375 kg too fat

perfect butt on red clad boy

I was impressed by selection they had mid-day at Fah massage few weeks ago to an extend that unable to decide whom I like the most I just grabbed first sitting in front and left very happy.

my next door neigbour Sophia is actually grand-daughter of somebody who lost half of family farm to card gambling back in 30 ties of XX century and I'm pretty sure she'd not take your sarcasm about priorities lightly

this is what weak bodied people think

it's why we have 'and do not lead us into temptation " in the Lord's Prayer

thank you , as for generosity of spirit you got it right, I take care to have some spirit (Thong Hong or Thai whisky ) in my fridge and never fail to ask boys if they want some. Surprisingly perhaps lots of them decline , must try some single malt Scotch next time. As for honest of hotel staff in Thailand I may sing only praises. On the last trip i was leaving my tablet in plain view on the desk and I'm still proud owner, left camera two or three times, the same. Two days before departure I purchased set of newly issued commemorative banknotes , total face value of 1670, left in the white envelope only partially covered by the book on the desk. I still have it.

Good to know we will receive first hand account of ceremonies and how BKK will look like during funeral. You right about tourists behaving and dressing badly, not necessarily sign of disrespect but can be seen as that, people often don't realize that what is OK at home may be offensive somewhere else ( shorts , short sleeves , head scarfs etc.) As for disagreement please check your PM