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So there is no heterosexual men with HIV then by your logic? Yes risk is lower but not minimal nor negligible. Prep is additional layer of protection for HIV and while u can get it without prescription, it is not advisable to take it without checking that you are HIV negative to avoid drug resistance, as well as monitoring for side effect. And yes, since its only for HIV, regular std testing is also advisable.

Sadly or maybe fortunately, virus risks isnt much different where u are, but more dependent on your activities. But yeah, social distancing is to stay around until vaccine is available at home or at foreign countries. In the end, would u rather be at home social distancing, or at a different country, that is the question we ought to answer ourselves. For some, thailand might be safer (lower active cases) than their country though.

If one country open their border for tourist, tourist will only travel out of their countrybto visit if they dont have to be quarantine when they came back home later. Hence G2G decision is needed to ensure the tourism is alive again. It is an uncharted area we are facing right now, but some countries are definitely more pressured to open up than others. Its only a matter of time before they get together and agrees on the set of SOP that works for both countries and start to make tourism possible again especially if itll benefit both countries. Now back to thailand, they have significantly less cases compared to many others. That means they have not suffered much by the virus, but that also means their healthcare has not been tested yet if and when they suddenly had the surges in cases like some countries (recent example would be brazil). However, their economy had been affected really badly. So it is in their interest to start working with other gov to revive their tourism. And starting with countries that visited thailand the most are logical, though id say they might get better result if they start with countries that also thai citizen like to visit hence they also have something to offer. What are some things that might need to be agreed? One thing for sure is the cost of treating the covid-19 patient, including isolation, quarantine of close contact etc which i believed should be bourned by the country of origin or by insurance. Second is what to do with those who get caught not following the SOP which probably be treated like extradition treaty. These are just few things that need to be spelt out and im sure there are more things to discuss and getting agreement on so many items will not be easy unless both parties will get the benefit out of this. To be honest, initially, WHO were against closing border as it is viewed as punishment hence some countries will start to manipulate the situation to avoid getting into the ban list. Only when enough countries closed their borders that WHO changed their mind. Now that we are thinking about the reverse, opening borders can be viewed as a reward/act of trust between governments but some countries might also be motivated to manipulate their cases number to be included in the "safe list". It will not be easy to see anyone taking the first move to open up their borders

Lockdown eased from Monday The government has announced the third stage of the easing of the business and activity lockdown, effective from Monday. It allows restricted activities at schools, theatres, beauty parlours, fitness clubs, sports fields, recreational ponds, ballroom dancing venues, convention halls and zoos. The curfew is also shortened to 11pm to 3am from June 1. Gen Somsak Roongsita, secretary-general of the National Security Council, said on Friday that school buildings can reopen for admission examinations and short training sessions, but not for normal classes. Private tuition schools for vocational training, arts and sports can resume. Malls could remain open until 9pm. Exhibition and convention venues could also open until 9pm, but activity space at each would be limited to 20,000 square metres. Buddha amulet markets will reopen, as long as operators prevent visitors crowding together. Barbers and hairdressers will be allowed to dye hair in addition to hair cutting, washing and drying, but their services are still capped at two hours at a time and customers are not allowed to wait on the premises. Child daycare centres can open only for the preparation of food and beverages for parents to take home to their children. Beauty clinics and salons and tattoo and piercing parlours can reopen, but not provide facial services, and staff and customers must wear face masks. Health-oriented massage parlours can reopen for two hours of service at a time. Sex massage parlours, steam and herbal saunas remain closed. Fitness clubs in and outside malls will reopen from June 1 but visitors' numbers will be limited and sauna services are still suspended. Stadiums for football, futsal, basketball and volleyball will resume for exercise and practice, on the condition the number of non-players is capped at 10. Bowling and skating centres and the like can reopen for exercise and practice only. Ballroom dancing centres will reopen. Ponds for sports and recreational activities - for jetskis, kitesurfing, banana boats and such-like - can reopen as long as the number of people is limited, but not for competition. Theatres, including movie theatres, will reopen but the audience is limited at 200 at each place. Everyone must wear face masks, and double-seating is allowed. The ban on concerts continues. Zoos can reopen but visitors must not gather for activities. Curfew hours will be shortened to 11pm-3am to facilitate more businesses.

If i read correctly, in june, more businesses will be allowed to open, but all of these businesses and their customers needs to use the app. I think the type of businesses was spelled out earlier in a different article but i guess to know exactly which ones, will have to wait and see. It also means the gov knows where and when u go to visit any of the business premises, gay bar, sauna or gogo bar alike.

Just realized that reader also posted this news on gay bangkok thread. If admin can delete this or combine, much appreciated.

Link Complete end to lockdown on July 1 State of emergency likely to end June 30 The government has set July 1 for the lift of all business and activity lockdowns ordered earlier to cope with the coronavirus disease 2019 (Covid-19), said the National Security Council chief. These include interprovincial and international travel, as well as the end of emergency decree and curfew. NSC secretary-general Gen Somsak Rungsita said on Thursday that the lift of restrictions would be a complete reopening of the country. Officials would next month prepare measures for the reopening. "Authorities will have serious discussions because after the emergency decree ends, other laws will be used instead," he said. "People's cooperation is important. This concerns the use of face masks, social distancing, hand wash and limited activities. As long as the disease is spreading worldwide, we will have to fight against it for a while." Gen Somsak said the executive decree on public administration in emergency situations would end in June and the ban on international travel would continue until then. The full reopening will come after the third phase of the relaxation to take place in June. The government's Centre for Covid-19 Situation Administration (CCSA) will on Friday finalise details on what businesses could resume and on what conditions under the third phase of relaxation in June. On Wednesday, his committee on business easing did not reach a conclusion on high-risk activities that were suspended and seriously affected the economy, he said. For next month, Gen Somsak said that curfew hours would be further shortened and more restrictions on inter-provincial travel would be lifted under the third phase. CCSA spokesman Dr Taweesil Visanuyothin on Thursday said more activities at malls would resume and athletes' practicing grounds would reopen. Operators and customers would be required to use Thai Chana mobile application for checking in and out of premises since the businesses allowed to reopen in this stage are medium- to high-risk ones. Prime Minister's Office Minister Tewan Liptapallop said movie theatres would not reopen because operators said there was no new movie during this time. "It is not because we oppose the reopening, but operators say there are no new films to screen at the moment," he said. He also said the government was considering financial aid for temples where all activities stopped including donations from the public.

Interesting point as i believe this part is true not just for thailand but the rest of the world too. But if we focus on tourism and travel alone, some countries are hit harder than others, hence they are under pressure to open their border soonest. Below is an article discussing this, and thailand, cambodia and philliphines are those in asia that relies on tourism a lot. They also looked at the biggest economies and effect of tourism on those economies and a look at how much some countries tend to lost out on tourism dollar value due to covid-19. https://www.visualcapitalist.com/countries-reliant-tourism/

All of this temptations because the businesses needed cash money to stay afloat. Id be wary to buy anything this early, as some businesses might not even there anymore by the time you can travel to honor your booking. And chance of refund in bankruptcy is pretty slim. On the other hand, if you believe in the businesses and want to support them in time of crisis, buying their early vouchers might help them stay afloat too. Just hope enough people will buy the vouchers so that the businesses will still survive once travel is allowed. To be honest, i doubt the hotel will charge high rate anyway even when we are allowed to travel. Itll take some times for the amount of tourists visiting to come back to normal level and businesses will have to compete to get customers from a much smaller pool.

So far the news and article about the virus has been gloomy, but i see it as the more we know (good or bad), the better we will be at seeing the end of this. Its nearly impossible to manage the unknown. On a brighter note, vaccine news seems positive. One article i read (cant find the link though) says from the clinical trial that the vaccine they tested are deemed safe for human. Next step is ensure its working, and that might take until fall or later to see any indication. Hope we can see it materialize in 6 month or so. Meanwhile, dutch government suggested all the singles to get a dedicated fuck buddy during this trying time. I wish it was that easy here lol.

Seems like there is a growing trend of young patients (25-49) suffering severe/critical condition and higher death rates amongst developing countries (brazil (5% of the death), mexico (25% of the death), india (50% for death are youbger than 60) and of course the risk on young children developing kawasaki like diseases too. While it was earlier seems to be affecting the old and those with underlying condition worst, seems like the playing field (or killing field?) Is now level up. There is a lot more unknown with the virus or maybe the virus is evolving and mutating. https://www.businessinsider.com/washington-post-coronavirus-young-people-developing-world-2020-5?amp Sadly, like the main article shared in first post, and as pointed out by divinemadmen, boys who are desperate might still take the risk. And the main article also pointed out an assumption that the customer who are a risk taker, might also taking risks on other high risk behaviour, like barebacking, chem sex, etc and might entice the desperate boys with money to fet their way. Yup, it is disrespectful and taking advantage of the poor and desperate boys but such is the sad reality. Btw, in another article, it says the death rate in brazil for people below 50 is 15% instead of 5%. https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/the_americas/coronavirus-brazil-killing-young-developing-world/2020/05/22/f76d83e8-99e9-11ea-ad79-eef7cd734641_story.html?outputType=amp

Yup, no questions any hygenic practice helps. The sexual services itself is actually high risk, so normally one would advice to steer away from it. But if you need to do it, as in no choice since they need to make a living, a guideline is a good thing to have to reduce the risk. By how much, no one knows. But the sex workers, they are at a disadvantage regardless. If they are desperate enough to risk the pandemic to work, they are also might not have a choice to practise those suggestion if the client dont want to. I guess the best ideal case for our boys is to have one long term client who they stay with or who can sponsor them exclusively. Some are in this position already, so those boys are set for now.

How many of them will follow and insisted client to follow it? Especially when its tough time, client pools is super low, and risking losing a client is a huge risk. Showering helps but if the client is already infected, that wont do much. Kissing is out of question, BJ, nipple licking, all carries high risks of infection. For many, these restriction is a deal breaker. Unless you will be happy with just hand job and maybe only one or two safer position for sex.

Came across this article when wondering about the fate of our favorite boys after reading a different article about porn industry adapting to the situation. https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2020/05/24/us/sex-workers-coronavirus-intl/index.htm Don't kiss. Tell clients to wash their hands before they touch you. Wear a mask. Avoid face-to-face positions. And even: Put on a nurse costume and pull out a thermometer -- if his temperature is normal, make it part of the game. If he has a fever, end the session. These are real tips that advocacy groups and health authorities around the world are sharing in the age of coronavirus, hoping to protect workers in the vast and often overlooked sex trade. Armchair advice would be to stop all so-called "full service" sex work altogether, but as UNAIDS warned in April, many sex workers are being forced to weigh what's safe against what will put food on the table. An old economics axiom claims that investments in "vice" and "sin" like gambling, alcohol, drugs and sex trades weather economic downturns well, because people turn to them whether they're sad or happy. Some vices are even thought to be countercyclical, rising when economy takes a nosedive.

https://www.timeout.com/tokyo/news/japanese-bodybuilder-squad-starts-sushi-delivery-service-052220

For some thats all that matters, below the belt.

I just checked mine after reading this and for my case, the show follow info box is ticked off by default. I guess LINE has solved the issue.

Surely those restriction will be lifted soon if they want to boost tourism, the reason the lifted the ban. But im not ready to brave the virus, put up with quarantine back home, not to mention a clear directive from my company to avoid any travel unless for urgent cases. And our gov just told us that from june 1st onward, we need to pay for accomodation during the 14 days mandatory quarantine at hotels and needed to agree to it first before being allowed entry back home. But if your country or company doesnt have that kind of restriction, this is the first south east asia country that lifted the travel ban.

Good luck to all who are ready to travel and brave the virus. Cambodia is not a bad substitute for thailand.

I wonder if phuket opens up, boys will go there to work instead and gay scene there will be revived...

PeterRS has detailed up the responses pretty well above. Sex trade is the business, and bars is just the medium. And to me and all of us that adores thailand, a unique medium compared to many other places in the world. I can get massages here in malaysia, or pretty much everywhere i travel to, i can get MB from apps all the same. But a gogobar, with mamasan, the boys, the show, the intimacy inside the bars, the thai hospitality and of course affordable, is what kept is coming to the LOS. For me, other than LT, i lose cost advantages compared to what i can get back home, but there is nothing close to what the gogobars offers in thailand that i can get back home, especially the quality, variety, and huge quantity of boys all in one convinient place that a bar hopping can be done in one night. So due to this reason, i do believe its a temporary setback. Onwers of the bars might change hands but once the disease is contained, the bars will resume.

It is temporary. Unlike wars or drastic change in political believes (modern example of north korea and numbers of middle east nation), no diseases have stopped horny human from having sex, paid or free.

Lol inconsistency is the word of the day. Regardless, none of which matters and they extended their border closure another month. So they just decided to decide on things that doesnt matter. What else is new?

Just In: 0 New Covid-19 cases in Thailand today (May 16) Thailand's Royal Gazette has announced that China, South Korea, Hong Kong and Macao will removed from its list of "dangerous disease zones" from Saturday (May 16) Shopping centres, malls and restaurants inside the buildings will be allowed to resume business nationwide from Sunday (May 17) The countries remaining on the list are: Spain, France, Germany, Switzerland, the UK, Japan, Norway, Sweden, Denmark, Italy, Iran and the United States. Travellers to Thailand from countries defined as “dangerous disease zones” will have to report daily to the authorities for 14 days after their arrival. They must also agree to install and use a mobile monitoring application. Source: unfortunately, Bangkok Foodie lol Glad that non of the southeast asia countries are listed though if it were up to me, id still include indonesia and philliphines at least Anyway, found the Bangkok post article.

There were no new infections of coronavirus disease (Covid-19) reported in Thailand on Wednesday, for the first time since the pandemic began to spread here, and no new deaths. Safe distancing is the norm, as people queue to receive assistance packages at Wat Rakhang Khositaram in Bangkok on Wednesday morning, when the government announced there were no new Covid-19 cases over the previous 24 hours. (Photo: Chanat Katanyu) There were no new infections of coronavirus disease (Covid-19) reported in Thailand on Wednesday, for the first time since the pandemic began to spread here, and no new deaths. Dr Taweesilp Visanuyothin, spokesman for the Centre for Covid-19 Situation Administration, said on Wednesday morning that the total number of cases remained at 3,017 and the death toll at 56. "I am happy, along with everyone who has contributed to disease control... We have been doing better since the reopening of business started on May 3," he said. Since May 3, the number of new Covid-19 cases reported daily had been in single figures, except for 18 found among quarantined migrants in Songkhla province on May 4, he said, and quickly explained the discrepancy. "Actually May 4 was the first day when Thailand did not have a new case of local infection because the 18 cases found on that day came from quarantine facilities. The no-case announcement today makes the zero-case status official," Dr Taweesilp said. He encouraged people to keep taking disease control precautions, mainly through hand washing, using face masks, social distancing and cleaning, to maintain the zero-case situation. "We can relax, but cannot be reckless... Please keep to the new-normal practices. Finally, we may be among the first countries able to end the hardship brought by this disease," he said. Dr Taweesilp said that zero new cases did not come from any leniency in attempts to find infected people. He said that from May 1 health officials had expanded criteria for Covid-19 tests on people, to cover those with mild symptoms. This month 34,444 people had been tested and only 0.18% of them were positive for Covid-19, he said. Over the previous 24 hours, 46 more patients had been deemed recovered and discharged, raising the total recovery cases to 2,844, while 117 patients remained at hospitals. Dr Taweesilp said global Covid-19 cases stood at 4.34 million with 292,893 deaths. The United States had the most cases at 1.41 million and the most deaths at 83,425. Source : Bangkok Post