Primeone385

@macaroni21 1st let me state that I love your writing style. It made learning new things based of my question both enlightning and entertaining. Yes you are absolutley correct that I am an American. I would like to state that I am not the half of Americans that voted for that Orange baboon thats in office. So that there may context that I do indeed (even though from time to time ask dumb question) have a fully functional working brain. Also please explain the ELK in america vs Europe because if I look it up. IT will not be nearly as a good read. Also won't have the context either. But now that thats out the way. From things I have read here on the forums and in books and in other places. I could only assume sadly that it was the same style bar as it is in other places. Which now that I think of it was a terrible assumption. And as my 3rd grade teacher Mrs Richmond would say Look at the word assume and break it down in its parts theres U, Me, and a Ass Jesus rode in on on Palm Sunday. And when you make those assumption dear you become a beast of burden to others. LMAO she was a delightful fat lady that looked like Mrs. Claus. Aslo I would like to state that i have been wonderfully scared by public television other wise known as PBS and the BBC. Which the term BBC is usually a loaded word in this forum. But since we are not in the africa forum. It should be clear I mean British Broad Casting. Have watched many a show from Keeping up Appearances to Are You Being served . So some wonderful phrases I do know. However that still doesn't excuse my level of ignorance. For that if I offended you or anyone eles in the forum I do apologize. But the only way one learns is either by doing or asking. So thats why I ask. So that way I do not present myself and ruin wonderful spaces for anyone when I do eventually go other places. Because I do not want to be the reason any punter cant go some where. (plus please do remember to explain the ELk thing cause I am intrigued more than I should be). I agree with all your points once again I made the mistake of assuming " Why one would not want to pay". I never assumed that the dick connected to the person could be less desirable. Obviously my mind went with naked + dick + ass out = fun. But it is true sometime a pretty face plus body with a stank as fuck attitude ruins the experience. Second point there are some guys no matter the region will think " well he didn't want that guy but my dick is better " Which has happened to me in Rio. Which I politely tell them. I did not say no to him because of his dick. I said no because he would not take mine . Before these edibles take over completely. I also want to point out that the gratuity of what a 100 baht is in terms to how much a tip was more about these are working guys. Who expose there bodies to us for our enjoyment. So what is $3 dollars. But once again I made the assumption of being cheap ( you can see how this burdensome ) and not being considerate. But I whole heartedly agree that value should be given both ways as a means of exchange. I most certainly would not pay money for a bad meal. I definitely would not tip for it either. Also now when I go to either Thailand or the Philipines in 2028. As much as I try to find out about culture from friends , books, and Youtube. There is still so much to learn. Especially when ones intent is to enjoy a vacation, get there rocks off, and to be remembered well. You along with other great sages like @Novarunner @floridarob @Latbear4blk I would not have survived and such an enjoyable experience as I have had in Rio. Also for any spelling errors let me take the assumption out. I have had a shot of tequilla and a delicious gummy. It can only get worse from here. But also on another point my tour guide pointed out. That from his perspective that I like to take Uber Black alot. ( wow that sounds like a start to a dirty joke). I did not want to say well one my right knee makes getting in and out of smaller vehicles irritation. Also I not skinny and young. I am in my 40's and look accordingly to my age and height. Which is basically a long way of saying plump from the chest down. Thankfully I do not have cankles . But most americans fall into two categories tip or don't tip. I do not think anyone unless its a pissing contest. Wants to spend more for anything. But If I am being honest sometimes the convenience of paying is more about being left alone to enjoy than it is about wasting money. For example I would still take uber in rio and other countries because I get to talk to people. Which gives me the opportunity to learn and make friends. I would have teslas cybercabs for two reasons. 1 no one to talk to. 2 sometime a cute guy is willing to fool around. Which happened when a guy asked my how my night went and I said i didn't find a guy with a cute ass that can suck dick well. I then said if they looked as handsome as you. I would of spent some money. Which made for a nice 40 minute ride cause I got some head, some ass on a side street in Rio. Which is why I get uber black. But anyway I need to sleep and relax before work in the morning. I wish you all well and once again please explain the Elk thing.

@macaroni21 1st let me state that I love your writing style. It made learning new things based of my question both enlightning and entertaining. Yes you are absolutley correct that I am an American. I would like to state that I am not the half of Americans that voted for that Orange baboon thats in office. So that there may context that I do indeed (even though from time to time ask dumb question) have a fully functional working brain. Also please explain the ELK in america vs Europe because if I look it up. IT will not be nearly as a good read. Also won't have the context either. But now that thats out the way. From things I have read here on the forums and in books and in other places. I could only assume sadly that it was the same style bar as it is in other places. Which now that I think of it was a terrible assumption. And as my 3rd grade teacher Mrs Richmond would say Look at the word assume and break it down in its parts theres U, Me, and a Ass Jesus rode in on on Palm Sunday. And when you make those assumption dear you become a beast of burden to others. LMAO she was a delightful fat lady that looked like Mrs. Claus. Aslo I would like to state that i have been wonderfully scared by public television other wise known as PBS and the BBC. Which the term BBC is usually a loaded word in this forum. But since we are not in the africa forum. It should be clear I mean British Broad Casting. Have watched many a show from Keeping up Appearances to Are You Being served . So some wonderful phrases I do know. However that still doesn't excuse my level of ignorance. For that if I offended you or anyone eles in the forum I do apologize. But the only way one learns is either by doing or asking. So thats why I ask. So that way I do not present myself and ruin wonderful spaces for anyone when I do eventually go other places. Because I do not want to be the reason any punter cant go some where. (plus please do remember to explain the ELk thing cause I am intrigued more than I should be). I agree with all your points once again I made the mistake of assuming " Why one would not want to pay". I never assumed that the dick connected to the person could be less desirable. Obviously my mind went with naked + dick + ass out = fun. But it is true sometime a pretty face plus body with a stank as fuck attitude ruins the experience. Second point there are some guys no matter the region will think " well he didn't want that guy but my dick is better " Which has happened to me in Rio. Which I politely tell them. I did not say no to him because of his dick. I said no because he would not take mine . Before these edibles take over completely. I also want to point out that the gratuity of what a 100 baht is in terms to how much a tip was more about these are working guys. Who expose there bodies to us for our enjoyment. So what is $3 dollars. But once again I made the assumption of being cheap ( you can see how this burdensome ) and not being considerate. But I whole heartedly agree that value should be given both ways as a means of exchange. I most certainly would not pay money for a bad meal. I definitely would not tip for it either. Also now when I go to either Thailand or the Philipines in 2028. As much as I try to find out about culture from friends , books, and Youtube. There is still so much to learn. Especially when ones intent is to enjoy a vacation, get there rocks off, and to be remembered well. You along with other great sages like @Novarunner @floridarob @Latbear4blk I would not have survived and such an enjoyable experience as I have had in Rio. Also for any spelling errors let me take the assumption out. I have had a shot of tequilla and a delicious gummy. It can only get worse from here. But also on another point my tour guide pointed out. That from his perspective that I like to take Uber Black alot. ( wow that sounds like a start to a dirty joke). I did not want to say well one my right knee makes getting in and out of smaller vehicles irritation. Also I not skinny and young. I am in my 40's and look accordingly to my age and height. Which is basically a long way of saying plump from the chest down. Thankfully I do not have cankles . But most americans fall into two categories tip or don't tip. I do not think anyone unless its a pissing contest. Wants to spend more for anything. But If I am being honest sometimes the convenience of paying is more about being left alone to enjoy than it is about wasting money. For example I would still take uber in rio and other countries because I get to talk to people. Which gives me the opportunity to learn and make friends. I would have teslas cybercabs for two reasons. 1 no one to talk to. 2 sometime a cute guy is willing to fool around. Which happened when a guy asked my how my night went and I said i didn't find a guy with a cute ass that can suck dick well. I then said if they looked as handsome as you. I would of spent some money. Which made for a nice 40 minute ride cause I got some head, some ass on a side street in Rio. Which is why I get uber black. But anyway I need to sleep and relax before work in the morning. I wish you all well and once again please explain the Elk thing.

@macaroni21 1st let me state that I love your writing style. It made learning new things based of my question both enlightning and entertaining. Yes you are absolutley correct that I am an American. I would like to state that I am not the half of Americans that voted for that Orange baboon thats in office. So that there may context that I do indeed (even though from time to time ask dumb question) have a fully functional working brain. Also please explain the ELK in america vs Europe because if I look it up. IT will not be nearly as a good read. Also won't have the context either. But now that thats out the way. From things I have read here on the forums and in books and in other places. I could only assume sadly that it was the same style bar as it is in other places. Which now that I think of it was a terrible assumption. And as my 3rd grade teacher Mrs Richmond would say Look at the word assume and break it down in its parts theres U, Me, and a Ass Jesus rode in on on Palm Sunday. And when you make those assumption dear you become a beast of burden to others. LMAO she was a delightful fat lady that looked like Mrs. Claus. Aslo I would like to state that i have been wonderfully scared by public television other wise known as PBS and the BBC. Which the term BBC is usually a loaded word in this forum. But since we are not in the africa forum. It should be clear I mean British Broad Casting. Have watched many a show from Keeping up Appearances to Are You Being served . So some wonderful phrases I do know. However that still doesn't excuse my level of ignorance. For that if I offended you or anyone eles in the forum I do apologize. But the only way one learns is either by doing or asking. So thats why I ask. So that way I do not present myself and ruin wonderful spaces for anyone when I do eventually go other places. Because I do not want to be the reason any punter cant go some where. (plus please do remember to explain the ELk thing cause I am intrigued more than I should be). I agree with all your points once again I made the mistake of assuming " Why one would not want to pay". I never assumed that the dick connected to the person could be less desirable. Obviously my mind went with naked + dick + ass out = fun. But it is true sometime a pretty face plus body with a stank as fuck attitude ruins the experience. Second point there are some guys no matter the region will think " well he didn't want that guy but my dick is better " Which has happened to me in Rio. Which I politely tell them. I did not say no to him because of his dick. I said no because he would not take mine . Before these edibles take over completely. I also want to point out that the gratuity of what a 100 baht is in terms to how much a tip was more about these are working guys. Who expose there bodies to us for our enjoyment. So what is $3 dollars. But once again I made the assumption of being cheap ( you can see how this burdensome ) and not being considerate. But I whole heartedly agree that value should be given both ways as a means of exchange. I most certainly would not pay money for a bad meal. I definitely would not tip for it either. Also now when I go to either Thailand or the Philipines in 2028. As much as I try to find out about culture from friends , books, and Youtube. There is still so much to learn. Especially when ones intent is to enjoy a vacation, get there rocks off, and to be remembered well. You along with other great sages like @Novarunner @floridarob @Latbear4blk I would not have survived and such an enjoyable experience as I have had in Rio. Also for any spelling errors let me take the assumption out. I have had a shot of tequilla and a delicious gummy. It can only get worse from here. But also on another point my tour guide pointed out. That from his perspective that I like to take Uber Black alot. ( wow that sounds like a start to a dirty joke). I did not want to say well one my right knee makes getting in and out of smaller vehicles irritation. Also I not skinny and young. I am in my 40's and look accordingly to my age and height. Which is basically a long way of saying plump from the chest down. Thankfully I do not have cankles . But most americans fall into two categories tip or don't tip. I do not think anyone unless its a pissing contest. Wants to spend more for anything. But If I am being honest sometimes the convenience of paying is more about being left alone to enjoy than it is about wasting money. For example I would still take uber in rio and other countries because I get to talk to people. Which gives me the opportunity to learn and make friends. I would have teslas cybercabs for two reasons. 1 no one to talk to. 2 sometime a cute guy is willing to fool around. Which happened when a guy asked my how my night went and I said i didn't find a guy with a cute ass that can suck dick well. I then said if they looked as handsome as you. I would of spent some money. Which made for a nice 40 minute ride cause I got some head, some ass on a side street in Rio. Which is why I get uber black. But anyway I need to sleep and relax before work in the morning. I wish you all well and once again please explain the Elk thing.

Sorry for the long post. But I realise that @Primeone385 was making assumptions -- understandble since he has not been in Thailand before -- about equivalency between what he's familiar with and what we're talking about here. And these assumptions about equivalency may not be valid, as @a-447 and @spoon have also pointed out. So I had to first explain the many ways in which "gogo bars" in Thailand are different before going on, and on and on (haha).

@Primeone385 It is very helpful that you have stated what your references and experiences have been. Doing so helps us understand your questions better. As you must have guessed, there is something very different about how bars operate in Thailand compared to the US or Brazil (I'm not sure how comparing bars to garoto saunas will help).
A very specific kind of bar
Firstly, I should clarify that there are many different kinds of bars in Thailand, and an outsider like yourself may not realise that this thread is only about one very specific type of bar which regular punters (sorry Americans, it's a British word) visiting Thailand tend to call "gogo bars", but which in my opinion is also not a very helpful term. It can mislead people to think that these bars are similar to what are also known as gogo bars in other countries. Language is full of these traps, where a term used in one country can refer to quite a different thing in another country. Ask a New Zealander what time he takes "tea", for example. Or compare what is an elk in Northern Europe versus an elk in North America.
Essentially, what we're referring to here is a bar whose two main business objectives are to sell drinks (like all bars) but also to sell boys' services. I suspect you've guessed all that already by reading the forum. The boys don't appear on stage one at a time which would be more typical of American bars. Because the Thai gogo bars are in a business of selling off-site services (as opposed to only visual entertainment/stripper acts for patrons), the business imperative is to offer a wide enough range of boys for customers to choose from, the same way a restaurant has to offer a range of dishes for customers to choose. Therefore a typical, successful bar of this type has to have 20, 30 or 40 boys on hand -- very different from American bars where having ten strippers on duty is plenty. That being the case, it is inefficient in a Thai gogo bar to have just one boy on stage at a time. Some bars have 4, 5 or 6 at a time. Others have 10 to 15 boys on stage simultaneously. This practice of "mass offering" impacts the next point:
The Big Cock Parade
Secondly, Most of the evening, the boys are not nude. So the discussion in this thread is only about a short period of say 15 - 20 minutes when (a) they are nude and (b) they circulate among the audience. This is part of what the bar calls "showtime" which is the part of the evening when the lights dim and the boys standing on stage to be "sold" are replaced by a curated programme of performances -- of varying quality, mostly amateurish. The one part of the "show" that is not amateurish however is the part I call in my blog the Big Cock Parade. That's when a series of boys appear on stage with erect members (a state that is almost always maintained by tourniquets) and, well, parade around. They then come down to the audience and offer patrons a chance for a ten-second grope. The thing to remember is that the parade may consist of as many as 10 to 12 boys and, down among the audience, they tend to approach customers uninvited. Sure, you don't have to touch; you can wave them away for which there is no obligation to tip, but many customers do not like feeling pressured to accept the grope offer with its consequent obligation to tip. Tastes vary and some customers do not find the boys attractive at all so their thinking is: why should I be obliged to give money in such a scenario?
Moreover, even if there was just one or two boys among the 10 to 12 whose cock one would gladly fondle (and tip), you may find that others will notice that you're the tipping sort. They'd notice that you didn't wave away Boy A or Boy B, and next thing you know, Boys C D E F G H and so on will be standing in line waiting for their turn with you. Yes it has happened to me, I'm not making it up. How does one tell Boy C "go away"? Even if you did, it won't deter Boy D. He would still be thrusting his dick at you thinking that OK, this old grunt might not like C, but maybe he likes me.
Tastes vary
One of the most striking observations one can make by following this forum is how tastes among members here vary. Some love the sight and feel of an erect penis. The Dominican Republic section is a case in point. I've joked before that over in that part of GayGuides, everything is about dick; nobody seems to care what kind of body a dick is attached to. I find it particularly amusing simply because I don't have the same fascination; I am more into massage and the full-body experience. So, for someone like me, to have a parade of 11 boys coming at me offering gropes and expecting payment – many of whom have neither physique nor personality I care for – gives me neither pleasure nor value. As you can see from earlier comments in this thread, there are others who feel the same way.
Values vary
Thank you for explaining that you're American (by that, I assume you mean USA) because one thing I have noticed as I travel around the around is that Americans tend to have a harder time than most understanding other cultures, countries and their operating systems. I think it was @jimmie50 who also noticed this (he himself is American) and he once made a comment, something to the effect that the rest of the world does things one way and Americans do things a different way. My advice to Americans when they leave their home country whether physically or when they explore other countries virtually as @Primeone385 is doing here, is to unlearn everything you've learned as an American. Be extra-careful that many of the things you subconsciously take for granted don't apply outside the US.
Different values is one of those things people seldom realise because values are so invisible. Narrowing this to the question of monetary valuation, there are huge differences between how people from different countries put value on something. One observation that I often hear from my friends (from various countries) is that Americans tend to overpay for certain things without even realising it. Just to give a few top-of-mind examples: healthcare; public transport (if it even exists at all in your city). And sex. This is not to say that other countries don't have their own craziness; they do. Indians overpay for weddings. Japanese overpay for gift wrappings. Filipinos overdo the bring-gifts-back-after-you-travel-abroad thing. In Jamaica young men, even unemployed ones hanging around street corners, cannot afford to be caught dead in anything less than new $200 sports shoes -- when their climate is one where sandals will do just fine.
And then there is the tipping culture in the US, which, as have been mentioned several times over many threads and many years in this forum, is widely seen as madness by the rest of the world. Americans have become inured to the expectation and practice of throwing money at people when no value is returned, and the rest of world sees this as some kind of psychopathy.
... which brings me to another implicit assumption that we need to be aware of. I have noticed that Americans participating in this forum, especially newer members, tend to assume they're talking to other Americans who likely share their same value system. As I have often pointed out, this is not the case. In fact, we cannot even assume that members here are predominantly White folks from western countries. There are Asians here, particularly in the Asia threads. Consequently, many conversations here are predicated by different value systems.
What does a "price" mean?
Coming back to the issue of tipping for the chance to manhandle erect dicks, the question was why such a big deal about a 100 baht tip? To reduce that to "only USD3.00" takes the discussion off onto a track that does not lead to understanding. It's not the dollars, it's the principle of being obliged to tip in an unasked-for situation. This objection is heightened when people come from cultures without a tipping culture; they don't tip at restaurants, they don't tip taxi-drivers, etc. It's just not normal to tip when no significant additional value is returned. Mix in the context of an unasked-for situation, it gets worse.
Now, one may argue that the bar situation we're speaking about is one where value is returned. There is at least the overall entertainment value offered by the bar e.g. in putting up a show programme, and so one shouldn't begrudge the expectation of gratuities. But here again, we run up against value differences. In many countries, all-in pricing is normative. Having to pay extra is not. For example, in the US, my experience (correct me if the situation is now different and I am wrong) is that airline websites quote a price and then only at the point of payment do they add taxes, raising the final price. In many countries this would be illegal. The airline has to display the full price inclusive taxes right at the start. In such cultures, e.g. Thailand (but also most of Asia), customers go into gogo bars with a subliminal notion that the menu or verbally quoted price of the drink or whatever other add-ons would be inclusive of entertainment. The "justification" that extra gratuities are expected for the entertainment just seems very strange, in the same way that if extra gratuities are expected for a waiter to bring your ordered dish to your table, that would be weird too.
It's the same with the sex businesses in Japan. They quote an all-inclusive price and no one is expected to tip extra. Over on the Japanese threads you still see Americans asking how much should I tip? They've been acculturated to feel intolerably guilty if they didn't throw money at the boy. It's been internalised so deeply.

All i know is my fat ass would have to be really in love for me not to question what is this or that when it comes to food. I got food poisoning one time from eating authentic japanese food. After that if something looks weird it brings that memory back and puts me right off eating. In Fact it will make me dry heave without eating. I guess the good in that situation is I loose weight. LMAO

I have never been to this area of the world. So I am asking this question based off of strippers in America. If there are a bunch of performers on stage stripping. They come by from time to time for dollars you put in the G-string. What I am not understanding is why based on the exchange rate is 100 baht which is like a little under 3 dollars is such a big deal. Because no one has said anything about a program where you go toa back room and fuck the guy. Which cost what regularly? It also seems that if you do not want to tip. Someone who has danced, twerked and been spread eagle on stage. Then should you be sitting at the back of the venue or near the bathrooms so you can conveniently disappear to reappear in your seat. That way if the guy you like sits with you and you fondle him you atleast get your moneys worth. I only ask because this doesn't seem to be a thing in Brasil saunas where I have been. That way

I have no idea what material his swimming shorts are made of, but IMHO all boys between the ages of 18 and 30 should be made to wear swimming shorts of exactly this material ! LOL
 

Looks like you are working your way through ALL the masseurs at XXL. How many do they have?

Day 4. (My notes start getting more sparse around this time.)
Today I had an appointment with Bima at XXL This guy flat out is my favorite. I find him extremely attractive. He’s also very very nice. He had a little mustache and a little bit of chin hair. It looked good on him. He joked that he was doing the Bruno Mars look. The body was unchanged, compact and muscular. His English was marginally better than the last time.
His massage was slow and rhythmic with the music. He remembered me from before. I had a great time. I am being careful on this trip and trying not to repeat with any particular provider. Bima in Bali and Ball in Bangkok are the guys that I need to be most careful about having a bit too much of a crush on. If I do decide to repeat with Bima, it will be on my last day.
@vinapu has talked about going through temporary lesbian phases. In my case, nothing anywhere near so drastic. However, I have definitely been on a “side“ phase from about the last day or so in Bangkok through my time with Bima. That isn’t so unusual for me, but it occurred to me after my massage with Bima.

The XXL website seems to be down. Here he is.

My notes from this trip are more limited. I mostly used XXL, but I did enjoy myself.
Day 2 (Day 1 was eaten up with delays getting out of Bangkok)
Today I took a long walk around Seminyak. Nonstop offers of rides (from motorbike taxis) and massages (almost all from women). I was also offered various pharmaceuticals (erectile dysfunction drugs). The guy on the street must’ve diagnosed me with erectile dysfunction based on the way I was walking, or perhaps some other physical trait he noticed. Ha ha ha.
I have a massage scheduled at 5 PM with Ardy from XXL. But it was still early. So I decided to stop at Teman Spa. I wanted to get a nice sensual massage, but I wanted to save myself for this evening. An hour and a half with Yusuf was well spent. Yusuf was more effective at keeping me hard than that guy on the street offering me drugs. He did ask me if I wanted to cum, but I told him that I had plans for this evening and just to keep up with the teasing which I very much enjoyed.
Ardi is not my type. He is very small and quite thin. On a previous trip I dropped into XXL and there were limited therapist available. Ardi was one of them. I decided to choose him rather than the other two. He gave an incredible erotic massage and I am repeating with him because of his previous performance.
Ardi was all over me from the beginning of this massage. He is like a modern dancer performing this complex dance on top of my body with his hands constantly exploring. We did this dance for about 1.5 hrs. I was happy and so was he.

It's not so much about saving money- it has a lot to do with getting value for that money.

All i know is my fat ass would have to be really in love for me not to question what is this or that when it comes to food. I got food poisoning one time from eating authentic japanese food. After that if something looks weird it brings that memory back and puts me right off eating. In Fact it will make me dry heave without eating. I guess the good in that situation is I loose weight. LMAO

Thank you.  Its been a very busy year. Really check this site out maybe once a week. We still travel there quite often. Hope you have fun in September. 

You are not wrong...I remember a time, 30 years ago when I visited a country where food practices scared me so much I survived on Rice Krispies and cup noodles (prepared on my room) for 2 weeks! I would dream about a cheese burger most nights (I am not even that fond of cheese burgers!!) 😆

OK, this has absolutely nothing to do with anything of importance, really, but can anyone explain to me why they would have a left turn arrow on a traffic signal at an intersection but yet when the arrow is green, the light is also green for the oncoming traffic from the opposite direction straight ahead?!?  I was so confused by this, but could not help but laugh out loud.  The green arrow to turn left should be the only working light at that moment and the only traffic moving, but that was so not the case.  I do realize that traffic signs and signals in general seem to be more for decoration than actual rules of the road…but that was just mind boggling to me.  Do they even require driving tests here?  Not sure what it takes to actually get a license.  Supposedly, according to all of the guidebooks and travel websites, foreigners are not permitted to drive in Cambodia.  I do not know if they have rental car agencies. Not something I pursued.  However, foreigners are able to rent a motorbike even though according to the government it is forbidden.  This was not so noticeable in Cam’s hometown, but in Battambang and also in Siem Reap there are many shops that have bike rentals.  Think once I am actually living here full time we will consider the possibility of purchasing a car.  As much of a daredevil I think he is on the motorbike when I am not there, Cam seems to be nervous and afraid of learning to drive a car.  I am sure this will pass once he gets behind the wheel. lol

Well, regarding the mystery meat...I learned when visiting the family of my ex in Taiwan that he (and his family) would get terribly annoyed with me always asking what something was or what was inside. As a result of that experience, I take a bite. If it tastes okay and the texture is acceptable, I simply eat it, enjoy it and don't ask. I am probably better off not knowing what it is anyway. Texture was the big thing for me over taste.
As for salad, Cam brought back something yesterday that he called salad and I swear to you parts of it were still moving. Just could not bring myself to sample that. I honestly believe it was full of these tiny little worms. Pass.
In high school, I traveled two different summers with the youth group on a work mission to remote areas of Belize. The first year our group leaders either shipped ahead or took with us a selection of American foods...things like jars of peanut butter and cans of spam. That turned into a fiasco because the ladies in the village where we stayed were responsible for preparing our meals and they had no clue what to do with the American foods. I recall spaghetti was one of the items. Not knowing how to cook the noodles, they came out as one very large, gummy and inedible mess. The next year they just let the village ladies plan the menu and purchase the food locally.

Why did I think of Richard Simmons when I read this. GOD !!!!!

Thx
One more question: r u in the same age group of most of us oldies ?

facts i hate the flights key word flights. from california and I am in san jose. I have to fly out from san francisco because its the least expensive option.

"In any case, one thing about being senior and retired (presumably you are) is that we have all the time on the world."

But time rapidly diminishing.....

Even more reason to try Panama.... take a break at the midway point 😁

The reason why I have not traveled to Brazil to sample all the delicious men and their BIG endowments, is because of the distance. From San Francisco, it would be two long haul flights to Rio. I'm in my late Sixties and just don't recover quickly and fully from jetlag.

I'm not in search of big dicks, but I've just put myself through the exercise of selecting a place to visit for 10-days in November. Like you, I live in the USA but in an area without good direct, inexpensive or relatively short international travel times. My first choice was Rio where I spent 10 days last fall, but flights and travel times aren't advantageous. I'm comfortable in Rio and have visited often enough don't worry too much about my safety. The garotos in the sex supermarkets/saunas come in all shapes and sizes and if big cocks are what you're looking for, attached to handsome men ... it's a destination to consider. Beaches, good food, culture, etc. are other lures
So, after going back and forth, I've booked visits to Mexico City and Acapulco; both are destinations I'm familiar with. Aeromexico has a relatively inexpensive, short, non-stop flight daily from my local airport which operates at advantageous hours. Not my first choice, but one which I'll enjoy.