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I am certainly open to exploring other places in Thailand. The problem is going to be how to get there. Air travel is probably out of the question without proper documentation. Wherever we end up going would need to be accessible by car or bus from Bangkok. That is why I was focusing more on Pattaya, as I know I can hire a car service to drive us there without any problems.

As I just replied to @mauRICE, at the moment I have way too much free time on my hands and am spending most of my time thinking about Cam, checking out return flights to Bangkok, looking for Airbnb's, etc. Probably am in the overthinking mode at the moment. Beginning tomorrow my daily routine will be back to normal and very busy. Hopefully that will help me take a deep breath and chill a little. I only have experience paying the off fee to the bar is for short term with guy from Banana Bar and with Cam at Hotmale. I made an assumption that if the off fee was a set amount per night (500 Baht), it would be the same regardless of how many nights you took a guy off. Just goes to prove what they say about 'assuming' things. Thanks to comments like yours and other members, I now realize this was way off-base and not how things actually work. At the moment, I am leaning more towards what @hank75 suggested, and that is to negotiate with Cam what he expects in the way of compensation for three months and then let him deal with the bar and his job situation. Simply remove myself from that part of the arrangement. That is between him and Hotmale. That said...anyone have any suggestions on what a fair and reasonable compensation would be for 3 months? I am sure he will throw out some astronomically high number. I want to be fair, and don't mind being a little generous, but also don't want to be taken advantage of. Willing to help out more in the future if we truly do become a 'couple'. While I have enjoyed the company of quite a few guys in Bangkok, I am pretty much a one person guy when it comes to relationships. At least for me, I won't have a problem giving up visits to massage shops and my past extracurricular activities. lol. I cannot speak for Cam, and we haven't had that conversation yet. I know he enjoys having a drink or two with his bar friends. I certainly don't mind getting together with his friends. Whether he will want to include me in that will be another story. We went to all of the various shows...but that was just because it was something to do late in the evenings. Not something he insisted on doing. I just knew based upon his routine working in the bar that going back to the condo too early would be a problem. I often was the one who suggested going to the show as a way of passing time...not him. I do believe his actual circle of friends is very small. While he does know a fair number of guys from the various clubs, he tends to just hang out with other guys from Cambodia. Just an observation on my part. These are the people he seems to be closest to, regardless of which bar they work in. Some of them he knew back in Cambodia, and his roommate is also from the same general area of Cambodia where his home is.

You are absolutely 100% correct. I need to take a long, deep breath and slow things down a bit. Part of my problem is at the moment I have way too much free time on my hands. My body clock is just now catching up to being in Denver, and I have not gotten back into my usual routines. Beginning tomorrow that will all change, as the rest of my week is very busy with little down time. The focus of all my thoughts on the return trip and up until this moment have been entirely on Cam. Regarding support...I am not really looking to support Cam. As you said, he was doing fine before we met, and he will continue to do fine with or without me. As of this moment, he has not specifically asked for anything other than compensation agreed upon for the time we spent together in Bangkok. The original agreement was 3 days/nights for 10,000 Baht. When it eventually ended up being 7 days/nights, we never actually discussed a change in compensation. In the end, I gave him 25,000 Baht. Was it too much...no clue. Some here will think it was too much, others may think it wasn't enough, and some may think it was fair. Did he send the money home to his family? Again, no clue. That is between him and his family. While I would hope so, those are his choices and decisions to make. I did not offer to send him money on a monthly basis over the next several months, nor did he ask. However, based upon my previous experience and stories from other forum members...I am expecting at some point there to be some sort of crisis or emergency situation and a request for assistance. This is why I am researching now what options are available for sending money to him. While he hasn't asked nor have I offered, our conversations have included discussions about how to go about doing that if the need ever did arise. That is how I am aware he does not have a Thai bank account and uses his Cambodian bank phone app. Not sure how he actually sends money to his family. I haven't asked that question, nor do I really want to be involved in that. Anyway...the entire question about how to send money to Cambodia is typical me...wanting to be prepared in advance...anticipating that the request will eventually come. Having used Western Union in the past for various other things, I have an account with them and assumed it would be easy to transfer to a Cambodian bank account with them. It appears that is not the case...no bank account option available. Since he obviously is not in Cambodia, there can be no cash pick up option at local agent. Thus my request from members for other options. Just want to be prepared.

Appreciate the bluntness, and totally agree it is excessive. Certainly not in favor of turning over a huge sum of money to Hotmale just so we can spend three months together. This is precisely why this forum is so great. I am gaining the knowledge and insight as to a better way of dealing with the situation based upon others experiences. I would much prefer to give the money to Cam, which he in turn can send to his family. The longest time he has been booked would be a 5-day trip to Phuket and several days to Pattaya with previous boyfriend I mentioned in another post. Anything else has been short term other than the 7 days with me. That was an unusual situation in that originally it was only three days but things happened. We handled the additional days on a day by day basis with mamasan. Again...this is all based upon what he has shared with me. In reality, he could have gone anywhere with anyone for any length of time and I wouldn't necessarily know it. I raised the question initially because I didn't know how the arrangement would work with the bar. Does the guy arrange that, do I make the arrangements, what is the cost factor...all unknown to me...so I am learning as I go in this situation.

Good point, and I did mention to him we could stay in a different part of Bangkok...didn't have to be Silom. I know he loves the beach, so possibly Pattaya, but he is a little concerned about traveling around Thailand given his status. I think there is safety in familiarity.

I have a general question about this situation that I need some assistance with. First of all, Cam has not asked or even hinted at me sending him any money. However, I would like to be able to occasionally do that for him over the next several months, and also in the event of any emergency situation that might come up. He obviously does not have a Thai bank account. He has no official Thai photo ID. I cannot send him money via Western Union that he could pick up at the local office since his only form of identification is an old ID from Cambodia. He does have a bank account in Cambodia. I did a test run to see if I could send money to his bank account via Western Union, but that option does not seem to exist. Western Union only offers cash pick up at a local office in Cambodia, or mobile app called Wing. Does any forum member know how to send money to a Cambodian bank account? I do have his bank information, including SWIFT Code, Account number, Bank address...so if nothing else I can do an international wire transfer from my bank to his bank. But there must be another way or easier solution. Any suggestions?

I don't recall if it was something I read on the forum or something I heard someone say in the bar about they like to keep the same number. If it is important to him that he keep the same number, I certainly do not mind a tip to mamasan to guarantee he will keep that same number on his return. Compared to a bar off fee or compensation for bar earnings, a tip seems like a drop in the bucket. lol. According to Cam, the bar gives the guys 4 days off each month. Instead of off fee for 90 days, we would only need to pay for 78 days...and he felt like this daily rate could be negotiated into a monthly fee with mamasan. As I said in another post...this is all a work in progress. The only thing set in stone is that he will not be working at the bar during the three months. We are both in agreement on that much. Details are in the fine print...tbd.

Since I am new at this, I wasn't sure if I would need to pay the off fee to the bar on a daily basis for the duration of time he would be with me. That is why I posed the original question to forum members. I would much rather give him the off fee directly. We started to have this conversation last night. Not sure where we will finally end up, but he at least knows and has agreed that he will not work at the bar during the three months. That much we have confirmed. The specific details or arrangements are a work in progress at the moment. He likes the idea of the money going directly to him instead of Hotmale. However, he is concerned that if he makes up some story, i.e. going to visit family, death in the family, wedding, etc. and then he is seen around Silom with me that it will create problems for him at the end of the three months. I understand his concern, and don't want him to do something that makes him feel uncomfortable. So, like I said...a work in progress.

I would definitely classify my situation as complicated. We actually have used the word 'boyfriend' when referring to each other. Not sure if there is something similar in Cambodia to godson and godfather, but if there is, he didn't mention it. At the moment, I just want to get through the next few months. I cannot begin to imagine 10 years from now. Not sure how often we will do video call. It's nice to just see the other person sometimes. Also don't know that we will text every day. That will partly be due to time difference and schedules, as well as language, but he also doesn't like texting that much. One of the quirky things I learned about him over the last 7 weeks. It will take us some time to figure out likes and dislikes. As @floridarob said, if we make it to the 3-year bar, it is possible we have determined at least some of our likes and dislikes. Getting to the three month bar is the major hurdle at the moment. I am thinking more along the lines of 3 weeks. lol.

I don't really have a problem with the fact he has been a sex worker. Let's be realistic about that...it is how we met in the first place. What should have been a one night trick back in October was etched in my mind so the very first club I had to visit was Hotmale to see if he was still working there. Things kind of mushroomed from there to the current situation. Based upon my previous relationships and experiences, I don't believe I would ever use that against him. I simply am not that type of person. He did what he needed to do to support himself and his family. If we were to stay in Bangkok, I would not be surprised if we ran into former customers. Not sure if we are in Cambodia how much of a factor that would be...but still possible. Both parties bring a past to any relationship. I've shared stories with him about my relationships. He even knows a little about my adventures in Bangkok this trip before I started to curtail those activities as things got serious between us. As for forum members...already know of at least one who was part of the group of 7 at G's for dinner who has been with him before. Was not an issue. I think it is important for both of us to be able to maintain contacts and friendships that were established before we met. Where I would have an issue or problem is maintaining any type of sexual relationship. We would both need to be able to set boundaries with former sex partners that it would strictly be a friendship moving forward...nothing more. Probably sound like an old prude at this point. lol.

I've had two long term relationships during my lifetime. Both were monogamous...until they were not...which is what ultimately ended the relationships. I wasn't looking for a relationship when traveling to Thailand...simply looking to explore and have a good time. I certainly did my share of that. Had I not gone on this adventure in the first place, I would have never met Cam. The situation is really like a double-edged sword. From my perspective, having fun with my various escapades changed once the switch was flipped with Cam from just having fun to something more serious. I no longer had that desire to play the game and started to pull back from my other companions. I was happy and content with Cam, and him with me. The switch inside me flipped from party animal back to the monogamous mode. Not sure if that makes any sense or not...still a work in progress.

I had no idea such an arrangement was possible. While we did talk about my concerns regarding his job, we didn't really discuss alternatives at the time. I wasn't sure I wanted it to be like a sponsorship arrangement. We did talk about what his monthly expenses were and what his goal was each month to send to his family. That gave me a general idea if I decided to take on that responsibility. I would prefer to spend the money on him, as well, rather than pay the bar a 3-month off fee. I just assumed that was the only way to guarantee his number and job. You know what they say about assumptions. lol. Sounds like I need to have a serious conversation with Cam about this. Keeping the same number might not be important to him. I know he has had other offers and opportunities to go to different bars, but he prefers and is loyal to Hotmale. He would want to return there if it was necessary.

To be honest, I think I could be tolerant and more accepting of this than I am of Cam going off with other men from the bar. That is the real hang up for me in this situation. Trying to work through that and will need to either make peace within myself about his job, or be willing to help build the new house for parents and we both go to Cambodia. As you can tell, my thoughts are all over the place at the moment.

While I would like to place the blame on Orange Overlord #47, the system has been that way in the US for some time. Not sure why we find it necessary when going from one international flight to another that things need to be re-checked and additional security. Screwy system for sure.

Had a brief video chat on Line this morning my time, evening his time as he was preparing to go to work. Not sure if the video chats are going to be a good thing or bad thing. lol. Seeing him up close and personal like that just makes me want to turn around and catch the next flight back to Bangkok. Getting myself into serious trouble here.

The escapades were definitely reduced towards the end as I was wanting to spend as much time as possible with Cam. Still had a number of shops that I wanted to visit but never got around to it. Not sure that will happen on a future visit, either. Too new and too early to think about what extra-curricular activities might look like when I return. Something still to be discussed and negotiated between us. Previous relationship was monogamous. Not sure that will work in this situation given that Cam works at Hotmale. Foreign territory to me in such a relationship. Cannot say I am thrilled about him possibly going off with other men, but realize at the same time it is his job. Seriously thinking about paying the off fee for the 3-month visit so he keeps his number and job, but isn't working during the time we are together. Something I need to discuss with him, but also with the bar. Not sure how open the bars are to such an arrangement.

I would welcome any relationship advice. I am far from an expert in this field. lol. I need all of the help I can get!!!

I have arrived back in Denver. I can honestly say leaving Bangkok this time was extremely difficult. My heart is still there. Not only am I trying to adjust to travel and time differences, but leaving Cam was more challenging than I expected. As I get back into my old routines with family and friends, this emotional roller coaster will calm down...hopefully. Before making any concrete plans for a return trip, I want to reflect on the last two months and sort through things carefully in my mind and my heart. They always say absence makes the heart grow fonder. We shall see what the next few months bring. Flights from Bangkok to Denver were uneventful. Suvarnabhumi did not seem nearly as busy to me on departure as on previous trips. No lines at check-in, security or immigration. I was glad in Singapore that I had a 4 hour layover. Arrival was at the last F-gate in Terminal 2 and departure gate was at last B-gate in Terminal 3. I would not have made a short connection...that place is huge. Arrival in SFO was also strange. No other international arrivals at the time so no lines at immigration. Never seen that before in all of my travels at SFO. There is always a back up there. Slight delay for departure to Denver due to runway construction at SFO, but otherwise a good return trip, although very long and very travel weary.

Good question, and it was something we did talk about. I don't know that I have a definitive answer. He has never had a girlfriend per se, but has been with girls for sex and enjoys that. He enjoys sex with men, too, and isn't inhibited or limited to just certain things. I would say he was bisexual. He has actually had a previous 'boyfriend' experience for a brief period of time with someone who was a customer at Hotmale. This was when his status was still legal and he was able to travel. They took a couple of trips together (Phuket and Pattaya) as well as spent time together in Bangkok. The customer was from another Asian country. This was a couple of years ago and once the Asian guy returned to his home country he basically ghosted Cam. Cam has not seen or heard from him since that time...at least this is what he has told me. Cam was honest about his future plans. He wants to make enough money to build the new house for his parents, then return to Cambodia and continue working on the family farm. In addition to growing rice and sesame seeds, he wants to raise goats and tortoises. I guess there is a lucrative market for both in Cambodia. We did discuss how his family might react if he returns home with this old, white farang. I think we would probably live elsewhere together, but nearby...not with the family. lol. During the conversations he has never expressed a desire to get married or have children. I specifically asked if he felt pressure from his family to do so and he said 'no'. His four siblings are all married and his parents have 14 grandchildren. That doesn't meant it won't change in the future, but for now it doesn't seem to be an issue. Having said all of that, I realize these are things he has told me and may not be 100% truthful or accurate. They could be things he is saying because he thinks that is what I want to hear. For all I know, he could actually be married and have three children! Just have to be able to filter through some of the things they say and sometimes it simply comes down to blind faith. Don't really know truth from fiction.

Went to the show at Banana Club, which was quite good, btw. Would recommend it. Naturally, when we arrived the number guys were on stage and the show had not started yet. No sooner was Banana guy off stage then he had his phone out and was sending me a snarky message about showing up at 'his shop' with another boy. I didn't bother to respond. Think he will shortly be blocked on Line, if he hasn't already blocked me. lol.

What I thought was going to be a difficult conversation to have with Cam turned out to be quite easy using forum members as a jumping off point. With so many traveling forum members in Bangkok at the same time, Cam was able to meet a few of the members when getting together for our evening meetings. That allowed us to have some very serious conversations about a host of things…family, goals, dreams, relationships. He was curious about how we knew each other. I explained a little about the forum without going into too much detail, but said we had a shared love of travel, especially Asia in general, but specifically Thailand, and an appreciation for Asian men. Especially grateful to @jason1975, because I was able to use his boyfriend relationship as the starting point in our conversation. Not to drag this on forever, and also wishing to keep some of our conversations private, let me just say we are going to work on a boyfriend situation. I have no exact date for my return to Thailand. As of now, I am looking at November, December and January as a three month trial. Even though it is seven months away, which will be a bit of a struggle for me, I think we both need time away to be sure it is what we really want. I also need to recoup physically and plan for such a lengthy stay financially. Because my family will be doing other things this year over the holidays in November/December, it is a good time to get out of Denver...in addition to the winter weather. I need time to explore airfares and research Airbnb options. The free condo will not be available, and I don’t believe I will even share with my friends that I am planning a return trip. Otherwise, they will try to organize activities and I want this trip to only be about me and Cam. If anyone has any recommendations regarding Airbnb/3-month rental, please let me know…preferably in Silom/Sathorn/Bang Rak area. I will share that Cam originally came to Thailand legally for work. He was in construction. Pay wasn’t the greatest, and he said foreign construction workers are not treated very well. He also was a waiter in a restaurant. He has gone back and forth a number of times without any problems and was always able to renew his visa. That all changed with the border conflict so he is limited in what work he can do now with no visa and also unable to return home because it would risk his ability to return to Bangkok for work in the future. Kind of a catch 22 at this point. The objective for him and his other four siblings is to save money to build his parents a new home. They have lived in their current home their entire lives. They are rice and sesame seed farmers. The house is infested with termites and becoming very precarious. He has managed to save and send home 50% of what is needed to build the new house, so he stays in Bangkok and does this work since he is the youngest, single with no children. His other siblings are all married and have children. Once they have enough money for the new house, he plans to return home. That has been part of our discussions, because I certainly would not want to be living in Bangkok if he has returned to Cambodia (near Siem Reap). Anyway, we did quite well together for seven days and both of us are interested in making this work. Three months will put things to a real test, bring new or unexpected challenges, and either make us or break us. We shall see what the future holds. We would live together in the Airbnb over the three months. He wasn’t really looking for a relationship, nor was he hoping for a sponsor. Knowing myself, once I return to Bangkok in the fall I will probably take on most of the responsibility for our living expenses to allow most of his money to be sent home. I am sure there are obstacles we will face that neither of us has thought of or talked about. Appreciate hearing any words of wisdom or advice from forum members.

continued…Installment 29: Six days turned into seven, basically because neither of us was ready for the time to end. Not sure what my rationale was for ending the initial three days on Tuesday morning, considering my return flights do not depart until Thursday morning. Thinking back it was probably to keep my options open for last connections. Whatever the rationale was, that went completely out the window. Had messages from Paradise guy, Banana guy (another story, lol), Chaichana guy, Green guy and Rainbow Dragon all wanting to meet one more time before leaving Thailand. I managed to come up with various reasons as to why I would have no time. Paradise guy was a little more insistent than the others. He was determined to spend my last night in Bangkok with me and then ride along to the airport. I had other plans and was just as insistent with him that it wasn’t going to work. Finally agreed to see him for a brief period of time late Wednesday afternoon at the shop. Finished packing for the most part, showered, and headed to Paradise. Few last minute things I will need to throw in my bag tomorrow morning. During the seven days together we would sleep late, go to breakfast, do some shopping at one of the malls, go back to the condo and take an afternoon snooze before heading out to dinner, go to a show at one of the clubs, then back to the condo for some fun (as I like to say…doing the wild thing) before falling asleep. We had lots of time to talk about a lot of different things which I will share in a different post. To close out this report, let’s just say it started with a bang but in some ways ended with a whimper. lol. The experiences and escapades were greatly reduced towards the end because of my desire to spend it mostly with Cam. Some final comments about our dinners out and club visits. Enjoyed dinners at Sarica, Happy Beer Garden, famous UNESCO Foodland, Yayoi in Silom Complex, and a return visit to G’s. I would say out of all the shows we saw that the one presented by Banana Bar was the best by far. We went on Friday evening and the place was packed…SRO. The entertainers thrived on the packed house and the energy level was off the charts. It was just electric and exciting. Very mixed crowd, but way too many to even count. Went to Circus and was disappointed. The performers have very little room to work in, seating inside is uncomfortable and way too crowded. Didn’t care for the environment at all. Wouldn’t be high on my list of places to return. Jupiter show was mechanical, cold and sterile. Lacked any energy. Best thing at this club was a pre-show singer. He was excellent and very entertaining. I would actually pay money to go see him perform on stage somewhere…he was that good. Looked a little like Mario Lopez. Saturday evening, mixed crowd with more females than males and only 16 customers total. Also went to Fresh Boy, Moonlight and Dream Boy again. Have already reported on those and nothing new to add. All-in-all is has been a great trip. Already planning a return trip for later in the year. Tentatively looking at November and staying for three months…provided they don’t change the 60-day visa to 30 days. Want to do the 60-day plus 30 day extension if possible. Might investigate the Multiple Entry Visa as well. Will include more details about that in my follow-up post about Cam.

Thanks for checking. Haven't been online much these last few days. What was originally going to be three days/nights with Cam turned into 7 glorious and wonderful days and nights. I promise to update everyone soon on my last few escapades and my time with Cam. The time with Cam may actually require a separate post, but will see once I get a chance to start posting again. Let's just say I am healthy and very happy.

I don't know about Midnight, but you can certainly off guys at Rainbow Dragon after hours. Bar closes at 3am, though, so rather late to be hanging around just to off someone. I preferred exchanging Line info and making arrangements to meet on his off day or before going to work in the afternoon. Much easier to arrange that way.

continued…Installment 28: Had an ok night, but thinking about the drive back to Bangkok and not sure if my body was functioning at a normal level I decided it was probably a good idea to skip breakfast and just had water. ok…please don’t chastise me…lol. I admit it…I am a spoiled American. While I do enjoy taking public transportation, for some things I just prefer door to door service. So at the recommendation of a forum member, I booked a car/driver with LimoPattaya. Picked me up at Zing exactly on time at 10am. Traffic was light up until we got into central Bangkok, so the driver made very good time. Provided bottled water, told me to let him know if I wanted to stop anywhere along the way, professional and friendly service. Advanced booking online, but no payment required in advance to make the reservation. Price included tolls, which seemed to be many along the route. Cost was THB 1600, plus I gave him 200 tip. I know, I know…there are cheaper options out there. I wanted to be picked up at the hotel and dropped off at condo, so I was willing to pay the price for that service. Already had a text from Cam before I had a chance to let him know I had arrived back in Bangkok. Hopeful that I have no health related issues like I did in Pattaya the day before, because it is going to be a crazy, hectic race to the finish line. Already know I will need to spend some time with Paradise guy, Chaichana guy and Green massage are asking me if we can meet one more time, Banana guy actually did text me when I was out to dinner at Dick’s Cafe. Simply told him I was in Pattaya. Didn’t offer any additional information. Think he is regretting the aggressive tone of his message now. Not sure if I will make any time for him before I leave or not. Undecided. Still want to make my way back to Ganymede, and a host of other shops I was planning to visit this trip but haven’t managed to get to just yet. Seven weeks seemed like a lot of time at the outset, but now I am having this sense of urgency. Also concerned about the status of my flights for the return trip. Paying close attention as jet fuel supplies dwindle in most of Asia and no end in sight to the Orange Overlords war games. I also want to spend most of my time with Cam. Decided to simply relax at the condo the rest of the day. Had a text from Paradise guy, but said I wasn’t feeling well and would let him know a good day for us to meet. Skipped lunch as well and continued with water only up until dinner time with Cam. Met at our usual time and location, 8pm at Midnight Bar. This time we both went upstairs to give mamasan the off fee as I wanted to confirm plans for the 3-days. Made sure mamasan clearly understood Cam was mine! Went to Sarica again as it is good and also convenient. Ate inside the A/C. Just had some rather bland noodles, avoided anything spicy, and only ate about half of my dish. I was feeling ok, but not wanting to take any chances or push my body too much. Saving as much of that for Cam as possible. After dinner, I asked him which show we should go to and he actually had an unusual but admirable request. He asked if I would mind going to Hotmale, because there had not been many customers and he really wanted to support the club and his friends. I enjoyed the show at Hotmale, so that was fine with me. He said a couple of nights they didn’t even have the show because there was not a single customer at show time. Most of the bars and clubs are noticing a significant decline in customers due to the situation in the Middle East. The comment I hear most often is peopler are leaving Thailand trying to get home, but nobody is coming to Thailand at the moment. Customers are canceling or postponing their travel plans until this mess is sorted out, or airlines have canceled flights due to lack of jet fuel. No win situation for businesses here. So, we went to Hotmale and earned some bonus points with mamasan. Handful of other customers…all Asian…two groups of two females and another group of two guys and a female…plus me and Cam. Not a huge crowd, but better than nothing. After the show we headed back to the condo for our usual routine…shower, wild thing, sleep. Slept late, went for some breakfast, then Cam went to the fitness room where he worked out and I simply admired the view. I can never get enough of that view. After his workout, we said our goodbyes and he headed back home. No sooner had Cam left and I returned to the condo than I received a text from Paradise guy. His usual…what are you doing. Said I was thinking about going to get a manicure. He informed me he had taken the day off and was coming to see me. No previous discussion about this. Total surprise. Guess he didn’t like the fact I put him off the day before since I wasn’t feeling well. Anyway, he said he would be at my place around 1pm. That gave me a chance to tidy up a bit and hide any evidence of an overnight guest. lol. Showed up with a container of those small, white coconut pancakes I like but are difficult to find, plus bael juice. Strange combination. First time I have actually had bael juice and enjoyed it, but not so much with the coconut pancakes. Chilled out watching YouTube videos on television before deciding it was time to take a late afternoon nap. Naturally, we needed some physical exercise before the nap. Needless to say we were exhausted after all of that exercise and slept a good two hours. Took a shower and then he headed home. All in all, a wonderful afternoon. I should probably be writing that this was the end of the story for the day…that I rested in the evening for my upcoming three days with Cam. However, things took an interesting turn of events and the stars aligned perfectly. What was originally going to be three days/nights with Cam turned into six days/nights. This includes the overnight after returning from Pattaya. After Paradise guy went home, my plan was to just relax and chill out at the condo. Wasn’t really entertaining any thoughts of going anywhere. Then I received a message from Cam…well, several messages back and forth and we both ultimately wanted more time together since the end of my trip is approaching quickly. We were able to have a really good conversation that previous night which I will share in a different post. I will just say for now that he came back and stayed the night with me again. I told him at this point it was foolish for him to just go home on Friday and come back to me on Saturday…he might as well stay with me the entire time, and he readily agreed. Informed mamasan of the change of plans and paid the off fee for six days. Think I am becoming a VIP at Hotmale. lol. Of course, this puts a kibosh on all of my other meets. Willing to forgo all of that to be able to spend my remaining time with Cam. Sorry to leave everyone hanging, but I don’t think I will be online much or updating my trip report for the next few days. lol.