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Yes. Upstairs is all business and first class on Emirates. Business class varies greatly from airline to airline so you have to choose carefully. For example, I found Lufthansa disappointing and BA has a terrible reputation. Qantas is nothing special, either. Go for an Asian or Middle Eastern airline if you can. I always fly Cathay Pacific when I go to Japan. I am cocooned in my own little pod by the window, well away from other passengers. They have 2 business class cabins and I sit in the quiet one at the back with fewer seats. And the lounge in Hong Kong is more than adequate for what I want.

I think the exclamation mark indicates that it is. Like others here, I have always flown business class because I wasn't paying. When I was a child and dad was transferred to Asia, mum and I always got special treatment because of dad's job. There wasn't any business class in those days, but we were usually seated away from others, or at least did not have anyone sitting next to us. And I was given all the icecream I wanted! The nature of my job also meant that I got to travel business class but that stopped after I retired. But once you get used to something nice it's hard to downgrade, especially on a long - haul flight. From Perth just about everywhere is long-haul! If I had to go economy I'd probably just not go. The best business class is Emirates Imho, but I'm also waiting to try Qatar's Q suite. I'm not a large person and really don't need a big seat but I do appreciate being able to lie down on a bed and sleep most of the way. I'm not particularly interested in the food as I'm very fussy about what I eat and often I can't find an entree or a main course. But I can always visit the bar at the back of the plane and find something to eat. In any case, I usually enjoy the food in the lounge rather rush what is served on the plane. The lounges in Dubai are awesome - I can always find something delicious to eat. I'm not a drinker so I'll just have a few glasses of champagne. Red wine tastes like vinegar to me. I would never fly first class as it doesn't offer value for money. I don't eat caviar or foie-gras and can't really tell the difference between Moêt and vintage Dom. On Emirates the first class seat is pretty much the same as the business seat anyway - just a little shelf with lights under the TV and a few extra creams and lotions for parts of the body I didn't even know existed!

Until these bigoted religious organisations can appear in public alongside their "God" for all of us to see - and not one single religion has ever been able to present him to us in the flesh - then they should keep out of any debate which wishes to change the way people live their lives. Their particular religious rules and beliefs should only apply to themselves.

Sorry Riobard but you've lost me there! At home I usually have a guy over for sex twice a week. We have sex the night he arrives and the next day before he leaves. He spends the second day with me and tends to leave after dinner. So that's 4 times a week - quite a lot less than when I was younger. Although as we flip-flop, I guess that could be considered 8 times! (But I only cum once per session) I travel for 2 reasons - for sightseeing and for sex. I don't combine the two unless I'm visiting a country for the first time. I'm interested in medieval Japanese history, which was a compulsory subject at school, and also medieval European history. So this knowledge is put to great use when I travel to those destinations. But these days Thailand is for sex only, as I have done the sightseeing bit many times. And because I've gone to the trouble of making the trip I want to have as much sex as possible during my holiday with as many hot, handsome and hung guys as possible. But twice a day is enough for me, and I find myself slowing down as the days pass so that after about 2 weeks I find it a little difficult to get hard and maintain an erection. Basically, I just run out of puff. That's when I know it's time to come home. Also, towards the end of my trip I tend to bottom more, even if I'm with a guy who I can top. I don't visit the bars in Pattaya these days as I have a regular guy there. In Bangkok I have sex every afternoon with my regular and find another partner for the evening. So there's my 2 times a day. If I find another guy later in the evening I may bottom for him but I don't cum. So technically, that's 3 times. Although I've slowed down compared with my younger days, my sex drive over the last decade or so has not declined any further. Fingers crossed I can maintain my libido for many more years to come,

I'll never get on the back of a motorcycle. Even a tuk-tuk scares me.

That's a loooong walk for me on a hot day! And that's from the wall,which is a long way from downtown near the night market where all the action is.

Check on google maps - it's a bit difficult to explain its exact location. Suffice to say it's a long way from downtown. I used to stay in the Lotus Hotel right opposite the bar. During the day is was hard to find a tuk-tuk to go into town. And coming back after a night in a bar in town was very expensive. The Lotus has now closed.

I hope he returns to the board as I enjoyed reading his posts.

The undoubted unpleasantness of the job underlines any tip I offer. I often try to put myself in their shoes and wonder how they do it night after night. They put themselves in danger every time they leave the bar with a stranger and have to hope that the customer will treat them well back in the room. (I know from chatting to the guys that this is not always the case.) My regular guy in Pattaya, who I spend my holiday with every visit there, survived a very sad childhood marred by poverty and an abusive father. He didn't take up this work because he wanted to; as a straight guy, having sex with old farang was the last thing he wanted to do. His early experiences in Happy Boys were pretty horrific for him but he persevered and managed to get used to what he had to do to make a living. There are many new guys coming into the business and I'm always aware that for many it is a daunting prospect to agree to follow a complete stranger back to his hotel, not knowing what would happen or what demands would be put on them. That's why I'm rather free with my tips (but I don't throw money at them) and like most punters, treat them nicely.

Given what's happened over the past 2 years, I'd do anyone! Am I desperate? You bet I am. Great news about Adams Apple re-opening.

They'll do, too!

But perfect for me!

Is it just me, or are others also wondering what the fascination is with 2 guys beating up on each other? Being elbowed in the face or kicked in the ribs doesn't do it for me. What am I missing? Mind you, I would love to admire those toned bodies, but only in the gym, not in the ring. There was a Thai kickboxer who got into trouble for posing naked in a gay magazine. My God, he was hot!! Here's hoping Tiago doesn't get hurt!

It's true that this topic always seems to generate a lot of heated discussion and I don't know why. When compensating a guy for his services I first look at the going rate and set that as my minimum. After that I look at the value for money side and adjust my payment accordingly. I think the guys have a terriblly difficult job, serving customers old enough to be their grandfathers. Some are also rather unattractive, others are rude and demanding - and yet the guys have to soldier on. Of course some can refuse to service certain clients but others are forced to by their bar. How they manage to get hard has always been a mystery to me. The thought of having sex with someone like myself must be a very daunting prospect, softened for the boys perhaps by the fact that I'm nice to them and show them total respect. I can also be quite generous if I really like someone. I find the Thai boys I "interact" with to be polite, friendly, totally honest and respectful of me and my "needs", basic as they are. They are lovely people. They've gone through the tough Covid times so I will be extra generous when I get back to Thailand.

If some random guy tried to move in on the boy I was with in a bar, I'd just politely say "Sorry, but the boy is with me." If I was sitting with a guy and I did not intend to off him I would let him know right from the start and say he was free to go if he thought he could get an off. Business is business. I've been in the situation when a guy I had offed a number of times over my holiday was sitting with another customer when I arrived at the bar. I met the boy outside when he went for a smoke and told him I would off him if the other guy had no intention of doing so. He returned to the customer and found out he was not going to get an off. I signalled to him to continue sitting with the customer and earn a tip and we'd get together after the customer had left. That way, we were all happy - smiles all around. Isn't that what it's all about? Although I have never been in the situation where a boy I was sitting with randomly got up and joined another customer, if that ever happened I wouldn't say anything. But I'd be reluctant to have anything to do with him next time I was in the bar.

Oriental Hotel. It's all you'll ever need. Their high tea is an experience up there with the best.

Straight guys who refuse to do anything in bed because "I am man" are not uncommon. Often, for example, they will only suck with a condom. Others will only let you jerk them off but will not touch you at all. That's why it's so important to clearly state what you expect before you off him. I've always thought that guys on the game who want to make big money quickly need to be able to bottom, even if they don't really like it. That way they double their chances of getting offed. It's a oi-brainer. Similarly, I learnt how to bottom so that now I have doubled the number of guys I can have fun with. Top or bottom, it no longer matters. If he's attractive, I'll take him! And when I go for a massage we'll top each other. Twice the fun!

Many years ago, on a visit to Chiang Mai, I did quite a long trip up the Ping River and stayed overnight on a raft hotel. The next day we went on a trip through the jungle and also visited a primary school. It was something different and a very enjoyable experience.

Min, those parties came to an end with Covid and now Golden Cock has closed. I also had some fun times at Natureboys so I'm looking forward to seeing what's happening there these days. I presume Super A has also gone.

Alternatively, the thread could be re-named and "Cambodia" added to the title. Just a thought. This is one of those meandering type topics where there is no particular focus as such - just "adventures" and would be very difficult to untangle. So a link may indeed work here.

I have 2 regulars - 1 in Pattaya and 1 in Bangkok. In Pattaya I only have sex with my friend whereas in Bangkok I have a different arrangement; I have sex with him every afternoon but I choose someone else for my evening fun. I was a regular at Super A and Natureboy, although Super A fell of of favour. My regular worked at Golden Cock and because the 3 bars were in the same Soi, they all knew everything that was going on with me. It turns out they were all friends! "You fuck Bee last night. I know. And you go to Japanese restaurant with him." Not only did they know what I got up to, they also knew some personal info about me as well. Although they rarely criticised their customers - perhaps they think we all know each other! - they did tell me about weird requests they got from some clients. They told me the girls in the Soi Yeepun (where the bars catering to Japanese guys are) referred to the Japanese as 555 - pronounced hâa hâa hâa in Thai. Five inches, five minutes, five thousand baht. Because I've been with my regulars for years I'm quite generous towards them, but only because they never ask for anything. As soon as someone asks for money, it's bye bye. But not before I point out that nobody ever gave me money for nothing - I've always had to earn it. Luckily, my 2 regulars are resourceful and hard-working and have done quite well for themselves, resisting the temptation to go out partying every night. When I was a butterfly I did get the odd request from guys I had sex with for money to be sent to them each month. I told them that if I was going to spend money I would want to spend it with them in Thailand, not just send it to them. That doesn't make any sense to me at all. Where's the value for money in that? If I spend money on a guy I want something back in return - just a smile is enough. I get a big kick out of seeing the guys happy. I remember a guy in the old Eros bar showing me a booklet made for bar girls, teaching them the English they needed for their job. There was a whole page of expressions to use when begging for money to be sent each month!

I've always seen that Soi as the Bangkok equivalent of Pattaya's Sunee Plaza. Being hidden in a dark alley away from all the bright lights of the other gay areas, it is the home of hands-on sleaze. At the 3 bars before Covid it was cock everywhere you looked. Cum one, cum all.

True. But this idea mirrors that of bars which put up prices when business is slow. I've seen it so many times.

The Thai way of thinking never ceases to amaze me. Doesn't anybody there have a business brain?

I think so, too. The original poster, Min, decided to write about his trip to Phnom Pehn in this thread and around 20 posts on PP were made before mine. Did you not see them? Or do you have another agenda?