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This is insulting on several levels. The use of the word homos (along with fags, poofters, pillow biters etc) to describe gay people is considered offensive and not acceptable in everyday conversation. It has a long history of being used as a derogatory slur to demean, marginalise and insult LGBTQ+ individuals. It may be part of the vernacular in Podunk America or of the MAGA crowd, but it isn't elsewhere and certainly not in 2026. Secondly, I don't know why you seem to think it's so unusual for gay people to be interested in sports. You said in another thread that you can't imagine that anyone in this forum would be interested in sports. I let it slide that time but not today. Why would it be so difficult to imagine members of this forum to be interested in sports? Because we're gay? I can assure you that not only are many of us interested in sports but we also play sports. We don't just sit in front of the TV watching it, stuffing our faces and growing fat. LGBTQ+ people playing sports professionally are everywhere. Chiang Mai has an active LGBTQ+ volleyball team and they've thrashed the straight boys several times; it's all in good fun and everybody goes for a beer afterwards. Keep us this insular, macho shit attitude of yours and I can envisage you having problems in Thailand; I'm already forming a composite picture of what you're like from your posts and it's not a pleasant one.

You said in a previous post that I engaged in one upmanship which isn't true and hurt my feelings.😢 To prove my sincerity, I'm not going to challenge your post above. YOU WIN. 🏳

Boy, you guys can sure eat! That's a lot of food on one plate. The restaurant does look very pretty. Guido has done a great job and there more things that he could do at this venue than at the restaurant in Silom for eg provide live entertainment or hold private functions without having to close the entire restaurant. It wouldn't surprise me if he's already got a place in Pratamnak - the Beverly Hills of Pattaya - and will eventually move there when the Soi 4 restaurant closes.

Surely there's a much simpler way of going about all this. Hasn't he met up with forum members previously and presumably they'd have his number, Line or Whatsapp and could try to reach him through one of these? @bkkmfj2648 ?

Hmmm 🤔...or maybe you can play the Judi Dench character, M. She's retired due to her failing eyesight. @jimmie50 Where are you?

I see. Now everything makes sense. Thanks for the clarification! 😘

Danang is in Vietnam. But that's just it. What are the sort of activities that you do or would like to do in your day to day? We know you like going to the 7-11 and eating junk food but you can do that anywhere in Thailand. (Try the markets where you can find a huge variety of sweet snacks and fried foods - then you can say you've gone Thai.) You also enjoy drinking - again not a problem in Thailand. You said you're looking for safe neighbourhoods, good healthcare and good weather. All the major cities and towns in Thailand viz Bangkok, Udon Thani, Chiang Mai, Chiang Rai, Phuket, Pattaya and Hatyai have these and, with the exception of Hatyai, have sizable farang retiree communities. None of them have perfect weather all-year round but I'd say you'd get agreeable weather nine to ten months of the year. You also mentioned that you were looking for a place that would offer quality of life. So, again, what is it that would lend quality to your life in your retirement or semi-retirement? Do you even know? It's a very subjective question which requires a lot of self-introspection. I find that many farang, already unhappy back home, come to Thailand with some vague notions of a sunny paradise that'll make them happy, without really knowing what is it that's going to make them happy and/or realising that happiness also comes from within and that they have to be pro-active in the production of that happiness. They're lazy and expect other people to do the work for them and get all bitchy and whingy when things aren't happening FOR them. I'll give you an example. I know myself. By this I mean I know my advantages, limitations, what my boundaries are and what I would like out of life if I were retired. I would pick a university town because intellectual and cultural pursuits are very important to me and universities tend to have these kinds of activities almost all-year round. I will try to get involved and not just be a spectator. Thai campuses outside Bangkok tend to be very green with lakes and cafes which I love. I also love gardens and animals. I will continue with my charities and spend more time writing, exercising and cycling. I've got other skills which would benefit any community that I'm in which I won't share here for privacy reasons. My biggest advantage is that my Thai is fluent. Sex will no longer be as important to me by that time (it isn't that important to me now) and frankly speaking one could find sex anywhere in Thailand. Your needs and wants will be different but don't move to Chiang Mai when you'd really like to be in Supertown ogling at those Sunee Intimate Bar cuties (and boy are they cute) and drinking yourself to sleep everynight, which would be totally fine. You keep protesting that proximity to sex venues isn't important in your decision where to live but your actions suggest otherwise. And what's funny is that you attribute your protestations to the nature of this forum saying we only discuss sex tourism here. No, we don't. Perhaps that's been your focus but we also discuss food, culture, language, health, Olddaddy, eyecare - just to name a few topics. Just be honest as to what you want but you have to know yourself first before you can figure out what you want. Then you'll have a happier time in Thailand or anywhere else in the world for that matter.

I'm concerned too. @jimmie50 hasn't logged in since 11 Sep 2026, nine days ago which is very unlike him. Internet connection shouldn't be a problem as Cam used to chat with him everyday. Perhaps he's made friends with Angela Jolie, adopted a Cambodian child and decided to abandon us? Yes, you could be our intrepid Bond on the ground. OMG! I just realised that you'd be the first Bond on His Majesty's service ever. How about that.

I understand and are you going to commit seppuku at dawn to relieve yourself of all that misery? I can't think of a more honourable way for you to go given your strong affiliation with Japanese culture. Let me know; I'll be happy to set it up for you. No, no, no need to thank me - what are friends for. 😘

Telling people to avoid a venue without providing any reasons from a first time Thailand and Chiang Mai visitor is pretty strong in my humble opinion. What was it about the venue that you didn't like? What were you expecting from the "experience" and would have made it a "good time" for you?

Oh dear, that's terrible! Can you imagine how frustrated they'd be if they went to a country with no Coke Zero, 7-11 or McDonald's? Quite frankly, it's embarrassing to hear of Americans demanding perfect English when so many of them seem to have barely passable English themselves.

What Mai chooses to reveal or hide about his life is his privilege, not yours. And I agree with you, he hasn't hidden the fact that he's married and the information I shared is already in the public domain. All his and his wife's socials are open, which means one doesn't need to be his friend to see his posts which are public. He even shares posts about his family on the Orion account itself which means he's okay with his customers knowing about them. And you can see his wife running the bar with him. From time to time, he will announce birthday parties of his family members, inviting his friends and customers to attend. As I said, go visit sometime. What I haven't seen or heard anywhere - certainly not from Mai himself - is that he is 110% gay. Thus far only you have made that bold claim here.

No, it was you who stated that he was gay quite emphatically when you said, I spent every night with him during my holiday, and to me, he was definitely gay. 110%. So it is difficult to believe that he's married, although certainly not impossible. Some succumb to the inevitable social pressure, I guess. You even implied that he got married due to social pressure. How would you know this when you didn't even know that he was married and had nearly grown up children. And please don't try to obfuscate the issue by bringing up the alleged discrimination by Shan guys. He gets along fine with the Shan guys; many of his staff are Tai-Yai and his old Tai-Yai colleagues from Adam's Apple drop in to see him from time to time. And some Tai-Yai guys are gay too.

I am and it looks like you've been had, in more ways than one. The fact that Mai is married with family isn't a secret and their family pictures are splattered all over their socials. They celebrate their anniversaries and birthdays at the bar which are usually well attended by their regular customers. Book is there behind the counter daily and is primarily in charge of the business side of things although she does mingle with the customers. Mai is the PR guy for the bar and is well known by many local and visiting farang. Just this past January Book was complaining to me about her sick mum back in Isaan. Mai's sons bear a strong resemblance to him; they have his hair and complexion. Anyway, don't take my word for it; go see for yourself. By the way I have no idea what Mai's sexual orientation is and what role he takes on in bed. I believe he's entitled to his privacy and the fact that he used to be a sex worker doesn't change this. It's his privilege as to whether he'd like to share that side of his life with others and I give him the same respect as I would to anyone else trying to make a living.

555 🤣😂😅 That's not his sister, that's his wife, Book. Book is from Isaan and Mai is from Surat Thani in the south. They've been together twenty years at least and work well together. They've got two adolescent boys who work/hang out at the bar occasionally. I'm not sure how that works as you need to be at least 20 years old to work in a venue that serves alcohol. What's worse is that I've seen both boys drinking and I'm not sure the younger one is of age (as of January this year). I only stop by to say hi when in town and move on. Please verify ages if planning to have sex with any of the guys in Soi 6 most of whom are freelancers or from any other venue where freelancers congregate, which can be tricky as some do not have IDs or they have IDs with fake information (I'll explain this some other time as I'm dozing off). Make sure they aren't stoned or high. This must be the Debbie Downer thread of the year. I'd like to remind readers, particularly those who only visit the forum occasionally, to take trip reports and reviews with a bucketful of salt. They're the subjective views of the reviewer and are influenced by their personality, preferences and biases.

Awww, you liked my post so much that you quoted me twice. 🥰 They were doing it in the bushes? Oh my...🤭 I can just imagine it, "Me Tarzan, you Grandma." 😁

Beautiful view. Are you at the Astra or Twin Peaks? I hope the weather holds as I hear there's been some minor flooding in certain areas. In early October 2024, the area where you're staying had people being evacuated by boat! There are a couple of 7-11s nearby so you won't go hungry and there's a McDonald's at the night bazaar a five-minute walk north. A Starbuck's stands opposite the McDonald's and right around the corner from where you're staying there's an American-style diner and coffeeshop with lovely cakes that's popular with American missionary families. It's called Butter is Better and I believe the American co-owner is in the Church of Christ in Thailand hierarchy. For something fancy there's the Shangri-la next door. So you're all set with all the comforts of home and may not even want to leave the area! Out of curiosity, which American influencer convinced you to move to Chiang Mai? Enjoy your stay and let us know how you're doing from time to time. 🫶

No, this is your own inference or perhaps you were vocalising your inner voice which was trying to tell you something. I was merely repeating your exaltation to forget any thought of hooking up with a guy in Malaysia and understood it to be your own personal experience. It reminded me of Ahmedinajad's ridiculous "there are no gays in Iran" proclamation. Objectively speaking, there's nothing wrong in not being able to get laid in Malaysia or anywhere else and we would ordinarily just assume that it was a case of bad timing, lousy gaydar, missed connections, cultural disconnect, being in the wrong place...not necessarily because there was anything wrong with the person. I don't know why you made that assumption of yourself and only you would know the answer to it. Secondly, your remarks could have deterred others who were possibly looking for action from visiting - and were therefore misleading - but thankfully others quickly jumped in to say that they weren't true in their experience and that there was action to be had. This is really insulting, but again, I shall assume this has been your experience because what you're in fact saying here is that all Asian guys are prostitutes. We know this isn't true from the many experiences we've heard on this forum and from friends of casual hook-ups with Asian guys where no money had exchanged hands. I know this from having a successful career and a robust income myself. But if your experience with Asian guys has only been with those who wanted to be paid, then that's fine too. We don't judge but has it ever occurred to you that your grasping attitude may be what's putting the non-moneyboys off? By the way we don't only discuss sex with Asian guys on this forum; in case you haven't noticed, this thread was originally about African guys! Moreover, we don't only discuss sex; we talk about food, transportation, health issues, language, culture, etc. With due respect, this thread was merrily chugging along and we were having fun until you decided to butt in and respond to a post from Olddaddy that was directed at me. I don't mind this and was pleased to read that you enjoyed your time in KL and had intended to come again. Great, I thought! But then you went totally berserk and directed your anger at me when you found out that others had gotten laid in KL and you couldn't. I mean, what did I do? It wasn't my fault that you didn't get any. 🤷 Anyway I agree that we should move on and in parting all I wish to say is "Listen to your inner voice."

Oh dear! It seems that you're taking this way too personally. Please don't be too hard on yourself - you haven't "rubbed me the wrong way" - as I don't take things said to me in this forum (or anywhere else really) personally. You're right; you don't know me and even if we did know each other, I wouldn't take things personally, perhaps even less so. To be honest, I usually gloss over your posts and was only responding to what Keith had highlighted. It's the same with the so-called drug allegation - was it in response to somebody else's post? Nevertheless I will look into it later as I'm about to board my flight home. I just wanted to say that I can only interpret what is said on this forum based on my own plain reading of things and usually through a narrow lens as I don't like to impute things into posts beyond their ordinary meaning. As I clearly said in my response to Keith, I understood your post to be about your own subjective experience. I mean what else could it be? Others have said they were able to hook up in KL so, again, I understood what you wrote to be your own isolated experience. Moreover, as you have correctly pointed out, you couldn't possibly have spoken on behalf of the thousands of gay men who live in or have visited KL. I'm glad we're in agreement on this. I have no idea why sex isn't available to you or what is specifically wrong with you that sex workers won't take your money. I made no mention of these things; these are things you've conjured up and voluntarily revealed yourself. In fact I wasn't thinking of sex workers at all but hooking up in general when I read your emphatic "if you're thinking of hooking up with a guy, forget it" remark especially as you followed it with the Otot-otot sauna reference where I presume you didn't have to pay for sex. With due respect, I don't have to make up stories about you as you seem to be doing such a fantastic job of it yourself. Last point: it's not your place to tell me what I can or can't post and to decide what is good or isn't good for this forum. I'm sure the people you meet won't appreciate your finger wagging. You might want to reflect on this which in turn might help to answer your own questions above.

And here I am thinking only Olddaddy has a golden obsession...⛈️

Careful. A boy with a lisp might pronounce it as Anthrax wipes.

It would seem that Grindr is blocked here. I tried to download it and got this:

I guess he's just saving face - I mean he couldn't seriously have been speaking for the thousands of gay men who either live or have travelled here. 😏 You should be leaving for Thailand soon. I'd love to get away for a few days especially with this crummy weather brought about by this terrible, terrible haze, thanks to our forest-burning Indonesian neighbours. I've been feeling a bit peaky this past week - the weekend in Songkhla did provide some respite - but one of my older cats has asthma and I can't leave her. She's 15 and I need to keep my eye on her. I have a lovely catsitter but it's just not the same as when you care for them yourself. Safe travels!

Interesting. Disney fetish? Quasimodo or Prince Charming? Is this why you don't seem to be venturing out much, eat at 7-11, etc because you're still chasing your Disney fantasy? 😅 All kidding aside, having a fantasy is not unusual but there's a saying that a bird in the hand is worth two in the bush. That guy from Jupiter isn't a mystery; he's only a mystery in your head. You're in Thailand where, for a few dollars (or more), you can live out that fantasy. And the question is not whether you like straight guys but whether the straight guy likes your wallet. Just remember that in Patpong and Pattaya, the Disney fantasy ends with a happy ending in the bedroom, not in the story.

"Plenty" is subjective but action is certainly available. I read what a-447 wrote as it wasn't available to him.