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Nah, you don't need a crib sheet. Hang around, keep an open mind, take part, don't take us too seriously, don't take yourself too seriously and eventually you'll figure it out. Have fun!

He's probably a Scientologist.

Ahh I see, yes, that makes sense.

@Lewislord Welcome to the forum. What do you mean by "joint massages"? You and your partner in the same room being massaged by two masseurs? That's not unusual but more common at straight massage parlours. Very common at hotel spas. I think gay massage parlours should offer this service too but I'll leave it to the experts, of which there are many here. You've come to the right place! As for your second question, it really boils down to the masseur and his skills, how many clients he's had that day, your expectations and the chemistry between the two of you. You may receive a great massage but poor afters, a so-so massage but great afters, or both the massage and the extras could be great...or bad. Good service in one area doesn't necessarily mean the other will be compromised. There's no exact science to it and as my stamp-collecting aunty likes to say, "Just go!"

Because they're Siamese? That's outright discrimination!

I don't think you can bring a friend or friends to share the food for the price of one person, can you? Reminds me of the balloon chasers of Sunee Plaza - a hot topic on the old forums. Or the farang who brought his own teabag and asked for hot water at a restaurant. Or the one who brought plastic bags to bring home food from a free buffet or had extra deep pockets in his shorts for stuffing food. Pattaya is truly a case of Ripley's Believe It or Not.

You're welcome. Another trip soon? Would this be your third in a matter of months? I see you're slowly being reeled in. Good luck!

That's nice. Be careful not to step on their feet. You don't want to lose their kindness.

That Line link looks dodgy and I can't find anything about a second outlet using google search or on Facebook. The original outlet is still open though with reviews from as recently as a week ago. Apparently there's a pair of twins working there who wouldn't mind doing a four hands massage together. (I can hear forum members not already in Bangkok scrambling to book their tickets.)

Is this the Niki who's a little long in the tooth and has had a lot of work done? If it is, then yes. He tried his luck at Fake Club for a couple of weeks but couldn't cut it and returned to Moonlight. Fake Club is a huge hybrid dance club and host bar in Ratchadapisek with erotic dance shows and hosts to keep you company as you drink. It's got fancy lighting and a sound system reminiscent of an evangelical tabernacle. I was half expecting a young Joel Osteen to come out in a loincloth when I first went. The set up is meant to show opulence (beginning with the lobby) but frankly I found it a bit garrish. They have many athletic and muscular hosts who in my view have better physiques and "fresher/cleaner" appearances than the Patpong guys. Niki with his frozen face and demeanour wouldn't stand out here. The sexy dance shows are well-choreographed and the troupe (not the hosts) has been invited to perform at events and clubs in Singapore, Kuala Lumpur, Taipei, Hong Kong and several big cities in China. Fake Club is popular with Thais and East Asians, particularly from China, Taiwan and Hong Kong. Club-goers typically stand and dance around small tables where their drinks are placed but booth seating is also available. Music was very loud and conversation was near impossible for me as I'm accustomed to speaking, not shouting. I'd say prices were on the higher side and if memory serves me right you had to buy a set package for drinks depending on how close to the stage you were. IDs were randomly checked at the door but don't worry, they accepted bus passes too!

I thought you were going to stay in Pattaya at your friend's apartment for the duration?

They're essentially bars with hosts to keep you company and entertained as you drink. It's similar to the karaoke bars with female hostesses. Their main and primary business is to sell alcohol, not sex. The hosts make their money from the number of drinks you buy them and some of the popular guys can easily get a hundred drinks a night (that's 20,000 to 40,000 Baht per night depending on the bar). The host bar concept comes from Japan, I believe. I've been to several of the host bars in Bangkok at the invitation of Thai friends but rarely stay longer than a hour as I don't drink and my tolerance for fools, excess and banal conversation diminishes as I get older. On the other hand, I might feel differently if I did drink. 😅 Broadly speaking, I'd say the guys in these host bars are better looking than the ones working in the go go bars. A lot have had cosmetic surgery or at the very least a nose job. Also, heavy filters are used in their promotional material on social media and they may look a bit different in person. Mostly Thai is spoken at these venues with Chinese a distant second at some bars. I'd say the clientele are mostly women (60%?), ranging from bar girls to social media influencers, online sellers and well-heeled professionals in their 30s and 40s. The composition might change depending on location and time of year (Songkran, New Year, etc). I've rarely seen anyone over 50 (but don't know about the host bars in Pattaya). Quite a few Thai women married to older farang too out to spend their husbands' money with hot, young, Thai guys. These people have got money to burn and on top of drinking themselves to death, gambling and sex, love to indulge in that other Thai passion - showing off. I laugh when I read silly farang whose experiences are limited to Patpong and Pattaya say that Thai customers don't spend. They spend, and often obscenely. Farang just don't know about it. There are bidding wars (for your favourite host), drinking games, money garlands for the hosts, prizes for contests...all manner of ways to make the customer part with his money.

It's probably a BOT that managed to bypass the forum's security features, not someone manually registering and sending individual invites.

They evolved into foam? 😱 Did the long-in-the-tooth fairies in the complex cast a spell on them with their wobbly wands? 🫣

Ohh it can start as early as the 11th in Chiang Mai and in the suburbs of Bangkok and unlike in years gone by where the water throwing is usually over by 8 PM, these days it can go on well into the night. But except for Pattaya, festivities in the major cities will end by the evening of the 15th. Out of curiosity, when does the water throwing begin in Pattaya?

You raise an interesting point but could it be that all this filming is scaring potential customers away? My impression is that many of the sex tourists in the commercial gay venues are only gay in the commercial fleshpots of the world like Pattaya, Patpong, Rio, etc and go right back pretending to be straight when they hit Main Street back home (even though the entire town and its cockroaches know they're as gay as a picnic basket). On the other hand, others may be openly loud and proud but may not want to be known as sex tourists and tell people back home they go to Thailand to visit temples and collect first-day covers. Secondly, rightly or wrongly, Pattaya and Thailand in general have got a notorious reputation when it comes to certain forbidden sexual activity (and I'm not talking about stamp collecting - think Sunee Plaza of old) and a skinny, elfish and juvenile-looking ladyboy on the lap of a seventy-year-old could reinforce this image. In turn, this image caught on film could deter potential visitors out of fear of being tarred with the same brush. OR it could entice those of similar ilk to buy that first ticket to Thailand because rocking that young adult cradle appears normalised in Pattaya. So what is the net effect of all this publicity and do the positives outweigh the negatives? 🤷

Uh-huh. Thank goodness for digital cameras. In the old days, there won't be enough film to capture yourselves. 😏

I've learned to take what participants on an anonymous internet forum say with a bucketful of salt. In fact, I do the same when having a chat with the farang I run into in Thailand. In the margins of Thai society where the rules are different and where most farang are ensconced, they are free to re-invent and talk themselves up as they do. I just smile politely and think of it as a few minutes of harmless entertainment. I don't take them seriously and I never get offended. Who they are and what they say isn't a reflection of who I am.

Looking at the social media pages featuring Supertown, Jomtien Complex, it seems that everyone - staff, guests, passers by, content creators - is taking pictures and videos of their environs and zealously uploading them without care or concern for other people's privacy. I was amused by the number of bald spots I could see and count while watching a performance recorded at M2M bar. In all the media that I've seen, faces could clearly be identified if they happened to fall within the camera's gaze and not too many people seem to be bothered by it. Is this the new normal?

No need to understand. Just need to feel it. 😉

Meow! 😼

Stories of animals being treated kindly like this make me happy. 🥰 A gold star for Guido.🏅

Did you give his pussy a few gentle strokes while you were there? I'm sure he would have liked that even better. 😉

Suwannaphumi, pronounced as Suwannaphum is what happens when Sanskrit conflates with Thai. The word suwannaphumi is borrowed from Sanskrit (as many grand Thai names are) and in Sanskrit, the final i sound is pronounced. Suwar-na-bhu-mi. The r sound in the middle is also trilled. In other words, you say it as you see it. Easy right? When adopted into Thai, the Thai spelling follows the way it is pronounced in Sanskrit but the pronunciation follows Thai pronunciation rules and the final i sound becomes silent. Therefore the transliteration is not wrong. There's some interesting trivia surrounding the naming of the airport, bestowed by the late ร. 9, which you can look up for yourself. 😅 Thai to English transliteration isn't an exact science - there are supposed to be some guidelines/standard somewhere and even these have evolved and not necessarily followed to a T. The final product really depends on the person doing the transliteration! I've never really bothered with it as I learned the Thai script from the start.