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Yeah I really would prefer they just charge a cover and get it over with like they do in other countries. The Thai way of doing it just discourages me from sticking around and probably spending more. But I'd imagine they've done the math over the decades and found this is the way to go. For me, same as you... I'll have a drink and move on. If I'm going to pay for 2 cover charges via a drink, I'm going to 2 different bars.

Yeah, the meeting guys from online thing is hit or miss. Sometimes the anticipation is better than the actual event. But yeah, you’re making me miss Prague now I used to go there a lot. They used to have really great clubs like Escape and Pinocchio where you could actually meet the guys before you spend the night with them. But I think both have long since closed. The way that it’s easy to weed seedy guys out is if they’ll meet in public first. I always meet someone at a Starbucks or something along those lines. If they’re not willing to do that, then it’s kind of a red flag. That’s true whether it’s a natural connection or a paid thing. BTW if it is a paid meeting, one thing I always insist is telling them to take a photo doing something they wouldn't do in a normal pose... like hold 3 fingers in the air. Something that can't be already found on their phone. It annoys some, but it's just another way to weed out the ones who'll be difficult in person... or those who're being environmental and recycling photos from 3 years ago.

That was where I actually originally booked an Airbnb. The digital nomad coffeehouse culture part was appealing. I don’t remember exactly why I changed my mind. But yeah, I’ll definitely head over there a few times while I’m here. Was going to go today, but I have been lazy and doing laundry and stuff here at the Airbnb. Of the neighborhoods I’ve read about that’s the one that seems to be the most likely.

Oh, for sure. I’m definitely on top of all that. Especially when I’m in a new country. Thailand is so different than the bars and clubs I’ve visited in North America, South America, and Europe. Offering fees, mama tips, high drink prices replacing cover charges, it’s been all new to me. So I definitely like to get a clear understanding. btw @bkkmfj2648 don’t get me wrong i much prefer face-to-face. Just like I was eager to grab dinner with you when I was in PC. I’m saying the culture of the gay bar has become a nostalgic thing for guys our age. Those 50 and below have always had everything from gay.com to now Grindr. Going out and paying high drink prices is lost on many of them. And in the hiring scene, especially in Europe and South America, guys don’t wanna wait all night in a bar hoping they’re going to get paid. They’d rather just put an ad online and let the fish bite. If there are no bites, they haven’t wasted a night of their youth. Maybe that’s starting to happen here as well.

Oh sorry man that definitely bums me out. Definitely was not my intention. And like I said, it’s a midweek off-season night out. I didn’t expect to get blown away. I’ll pop in again for sure at least once or twice and hopefully things pick up. The Internet has done a number on bars and clubs worldwide. With Grindr, it’s so easy to connect that going to a bar is becoming a nostalgia thing. This “Hug” place that @bkkmfj2648 mentioned yesterday is far north of the city center, but the guys on their Facebook definitely sparked my curiosity. I messaged with them on Line today. Gonna pop in there tonight. It’s kind of tough to understand what the place is all about. It’s not necessarily a go-go bar, but it looks like the guys are offable. It’s a restaurant and a bar. Maybe it’s one of these host bars. As great as Woody sounds, and many sung his praises, I’m going to go solo tonight. I looked at his website and the night out fee is really the same as you’d pay for almost 2 encounters. if I was here for just a short weekend visit, I would do it. But I’m gonna give it to go solo with Google Translate. If it all goes to crap, I still have a couple weeks left.The other thought I had as I’ve had a lot of guys my age on Grindr messaging me. Normally those get ignored.😆 but there might be some good wingman potential there.

Great stuff thanks @musgrave. Have quite a few bites on Grindr. Just trying not to fall in to that dilemma I had in Bangkok... I'd try to seek out the wild spicy stuff at night, but then I connected with 2 really great guys on Grindr... so splitting time was getting to be a challenge. 😜 Woody is a popular dude. Many are singing his praises so I'll probably reach out next week. I think I'm a short walk to the night market area. Sounds like that's an early crowd? Will probably start there tonight. I don't think I've consumed as much coffee in my first 50 years of existence as I have this trip. Iced coffee is just vital in the heat. I thought CM would be much cooler than Bangkok given the elevation. The difference is minimal to me. But then again the heat in Bangkok wasn't as overwhelming as I thought it might be.

lol for real. It’s 7 Eleven. How many of these dipshits are going to 7-Eleven for health food? 😆 7 Eleven is where you grab a snack. Have I bought the sliced apples or a banana on this trip? Yes. But the whole point of this post was to see what kind of interesting unique to Thailand things I might’ve missed. The snake products are awesome. Yesterday I found the powder someone referenced. Also grabbed a little thing of spray they sell. But yes, seriously starting this light fun topic… I never thought it would be the first discussion to make me mute people. 😆 But here we are. I wish the mute worked both ways. I was told by DM this morning that one of the dipshits is still responding to all of my messages.

omg these vids are hilarious... erotic? no... hilarious... absolutely. I'll fess I've watched plenty of Spiderman clips on various porn sites... but yeesh. Lots of awkward in that bar. The Easter theme has gotta be one of those self-indulgent things for the manager. I thought I'd watched every conceivable fetish but Easter... nope. I forgot about the mannequin on stage. 😆 Apologies for sending you down that AA black hole.

Ahhh that explains why there were 2 upside down Spiderman blowups on the stage last night. Thought that was rather random. I still haven't tried a host bar yet. That whole scene is interesting to me. That spot "hug" that bkk mentioned sounds promising. Definitely going to have to bust out Google Translate. I have a feeling they don't get many American visitors.

Oh can it happen? Sure. But especially in Colombia, it's just the m.o. of the rent boys there. I obviously don't have the experience yet with Thai guys. But yeah if you visit Bogota or Medellin, never give your real number/socials. Most of us are shocked if we don't get one of those 3 scenarios in a WhatsApp message within a week of our return to the US.

LOL thanks I think that's the organic food nutjob I muted so no didn't see it. Some great tips, thank you sir! Will look into all that. I guess I should have been more specific when I mentioned my thing for blondes... natural blondes haha! But that guy in the photo is cute! Lot of them on that Facebook page look great. A few I might need to see some ID first haha. Quick night out tonight. Did drop into Adam's Apple. I'm not going to judge it too harshly. It's a weeknight during off season. But yeah it was pretty dull. About a half dozen working... I think I was customer #7. I stuck around longer than I wanted to. They were doing the motionless awkward standing on stage for the longest time. So uncomfortable... I just feel pity not turned on. And a couple of them were kinda cute. No stunners, but a couple I would play with. Finally after the exhausting death stand on stage, they started a show. But it was pretty bland. Someone used quotes earlier about how Apple is in the "gay area." I get that now. Yeesh. While waiting for Apple's show at 10, I walked around a few blocks and just nothing. Ah well... night #1... like I said, off season weeknight. Sounds like the massage options might be the way to go. See ya in a couple weeks!

I hear ya but I think we're saying the same thing... majority are looking for the financial stability... as I said earlier probably 80-90%. But I think the original poster's point was that you have better odds in places like Thailand of finding a younger dude into older. That's definitely true. I learned that in my first hour after landing in Bangkok and again today in Chiang Mai. My Grindr blew the f up in seconds with messages from guys that would be way out of my league back home. Yet on Samui, I was as invisible as I am in the US because it's basically Daytona Beach Part 2. 😆 Sniffing out money boys or those not being up front about it is pretty easy to me. Profiles kind of say it all ... at least most of the time. And if the profile doesn't do it, the nature of the chat dialog does. At least for me it's obvious. The dying grandmother/pet is terminally ill/need books for class or will get kicked out... it's a running joke among my buddies I travel to Colombia with. But those stories are from rent boys to begin with, so it's not as if true feelings were ever in the equation in the first place. There are a couple guys in their 20s I've met in my Colombia visits that I connected with and still am in touch with. And I attribute it to the same thing... the exotic, being different, or like your theory ... the excitement of someone from a different culture. So to the original post's point, yeah I def think odds of finding something legit and not based on $ with a younger guy are better in places like this.

Fantastic info thank you my friend. That coconut dish I’m going to try even though I’m not a coconut fan. I’ve seen so many rave about it on YouTube. I think I’m staying in the area where that night bazaar happens. I’m about a 10 minute walk southeast of the old city. Off to Adam’s shortly!

Got bored with it. Especially in Ko Samui, where there were no adventures. 😜 Not even the fucking elephants showed any interest.

I’ve landed in the mountains. After living like a monk with no bedroom action all week in Koh Samui, I’m definitely planning to partake in some fun here in Chiang Mai. I know the opportunities will be far fewer than Bangkok but after a week of beaches, temples and elephants on Koh Samui, I’m down for some fun. Most of my time here will be spent exploring apartments and neighborhoods during the daytime. For those who haven’t followed so far, I landed in Bangkok. Been researching a move to Thailand for about a year. I know far too much about healthcare, visas and the tourist do’s and don’ts. But before I made the big commitment I wanted to come over here for two months to see if I really like it as much as I thought I would. I didn’t really anticipate Bangkok being a contender in terms of where I’d want to live in Thailand. It was really just where I planned to land. I wanted to have naughty fun in Silom since I’d always heard about it. But when I booked this trip, Ko Samui and Chiang Mai were my two big contenders of where I’d want to live. Samui will definitely not be it. Bangkok… we’ll see. I liked it a lot more than I thought I would. It’s all of the positives of a big city without the negatives I’m used to in the United States. Wrote about my trips to the Bangkok bars and massage spots over on the Bangkok board. I’m going back in two weeks. If Chiang Mai doesn’t do it for me, I’ll do some apartment visits and see more parts of the city. And of course, try to squeeze in some fun at night. But for Chiang Mai, the number of options to explore seems far more manageable. Anyone with suggestions on particular massage spots or go-go bars to visit… Feel free to drop a reply. Adam’s Apple seems to be the big gogo bar. Probably gonna check that out tonight. The massage spot that seems most enticing at first glance is aqua cnx. I’m mostly a twinks and twunks kinda guy btw. For now, though, just watching the daylight disappear from the rooftop infinity pool of my Airbnb.

I don’t know if you can make that blanket statement. Don’t get me wrong I’m sure probably 80 to 90% of guys 25 and under hitting up guys our age are looking for the payday. But they are apparently out there. My being the hot guy in the club days are far behind me. I’m in my early 50s so I’m not pushing a walker around yet so maybe I still got it … a little bit. But I had two hot guys in their mid 20s both with great jobs showing lots of interest with zero interest in my wallet. For sure I had plenty of money boys hitting me up on Grindr too. But these two had legit interest. Still chatting with them both. One I’ll see when I go back to Bangkok in a couple weeks. A week ago he was talking about coming up to Chiang Mai to spend a weekend together (on his dime). But yeah, neither one has done the sick grandmother routine on me. The one that lives in Bangkok never let me pay for two meals in a row. Now, is it healthy for a guy in his 50s to be dating someone half his age? That’s definitely up for debate lol. I enjoyed the experience for what it was. Maybe a last hurrah … before I do need a walker. The only way I think I can explain it is maybe I’m exotic to these guys. Blue eyes and facial hair definitely makes you stand out here. They both love rubbing their fingers through my beard. It was odd. One would run his nose in my beard. I’m still getting used to even having one. It’s still new to me. Always have been clean shaven. maybe it’s a similar scenario in the Philippines. I’ve never been. I’ll tell you this though. I had zero luck in Ko Samui. I think because there I didn’t stand out at all. Old white dude central there.

Exactly. I'm willing to pay the premium for blue eyes and/or blond hair. Plus they often have that muscle tone without being too 'roidy looking.

Damn you. 😆

yup

Saw a couple Russian guys on Grindr during my quick 24 hour Pattaya visit a couple weeks back. Didn't see any at the bars but we stuck to Jomtien that night. Straight scores bonus points for me. I visited Europe a half dozen times but never made it to Russia. So when the guy who was showing me around PC pointed out the Russian neighborhood, my ears and other body parts perked up. Definitely plan to seek a Russian out on the next visit at the end of the month. 10,000 baht? No. Maybe 10,000 rubles if they're super hot. Probably should pass on the military role-play request? 😜

I guess on some wacky psychological level I still like a little bit of a chase or hunt. The unattainable always appeals to me. It’s why I love straight guys. It’s the Disney thing. I want what I can’t have in real life. The mystery dude I’m obsessed with from Jupiter seems unattainable. I know he’s not. But I like that he seems like he is. Somehow, this makes sense to me. 😆

Smart.

Interesting that’s actually one of the things I liked about Jupiter. The guys didn’t seem miserable. They were not all smiles, but they were all business. They were focused. They looked like they knew why they were there. There was action and movement. We’ll see if it holds my top spot when I get back to Bangkok in a couple weeks. It’s such a tossup. I will seriously be crushed if that guy is not there. 😆 But yeah, I did like not being hovered over at many of the other bars. The hard pitch is so unnecessary. It’s not like guys stumble into these bars not knowing if they wanna play they can pay. An easy way to get me to never come back is to pounce on me the moment I walk in. Especially when I’m solo. And Jupiter didn’t do that. They scored big points with me on that. It’s easier when I’ve got my buddies with me. It’s just so goddamn annoying. I’m pissed none of them were able to make this trip that I normally travel with. I mean, who cant do a two month vacation at the drop of a dime? 😜 But back to the guys demeanor… The saddest thing is when you walk in and they just look miserable and they’re standing there doing nothing for 20 minutes as if they’re being scolded. (Although I could see that being a fantasy if it was intentional.)

Finally had an overdose of eye candy... again, not locals. But JFC my island tour today was a goldmine of 20 somethings who spend time, but not too much time, at the gym. One group was from Tunisia. Muscle frat boys with too much volume and their Instagram posing obsessed girlfriends... but the guys had perfect bods that somehow made them less annoying. Also on our tour, I fell totally for this Spanish guy probably about 22ish. He and his girl (assuming) were having a spat. A couple times when I offered to take a pic for them she asked for solo pics too. Ouch. 😆 He didn't seem too bothered. I sent a pic to a couple of you but I don't feel comfortable posting it here on a public forum. But dark haired Euro boy with nice abs, developing chest. Killer smile. Ugh I was in love. Then when we got to "Pig Island" a boat full of twinks from another tour jumped off all ready for the beach. The pigs were no longer the star of the show. I was playing with my new GoPro. Somehow the twinks ended up in lots of the shots of the pigs. Must be a glitch in the camera. After we did some snorkeling (pretty subpar - no colorful reefs but at least a few tropical fish, but gave me a chance to try the GoPro underwater) and then lunch at this beautiful abandoned other side of the island... it was really a great deal for $50ish. About a 6 hour tour I booked through Airbnb. TripGuru was the name of the company hosting. Pickup and drop-off at my place in Lamai Beach included.

Quick and easy, just how I like my dudes.