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I'm not sure I could tolerate a regular who spends his time playing beach volleyball into the night. It would frustrate me no end. I am quite happy to accept that I am an incorrigible butterfly. I would not want a relationship with any moneyboy in Thailand. I've had enough trouble maintaining a relationship in my home country with partners who share my own culture, language and of similar socio-economic status; I am almost allergic to relationships now. But I have had regulars - I think @spoon mentioned such arrangements too. These are guys I see most times that I come to Thailand; we fully understand it is transactional all the same, but it's distinctly easier and more comfortable for both of us to be transacting with someone we know and see from time to time. They don't last for very long; 2 - 3 years would be typical. for one reason or another, they vanish or they go back to their home towns and we don't see each other anymore, and soon lose touch. However, I can think of two of them who have definitely made something of their post-moneyboy lives - and I am so proud of them. Two more might have made something of their lives, but I lost touch with them quite soon after so I cannot be sure their new careers were sustained. Of the two that I am proud of, the more recent one now has a steady, proper job with an airline. He's not cabin crew, but in ground operations, based in Suvarnabhumi. As for the earlier one, that was 20 years ago. He decided to leave the massage business and go back to his Isaan town. He enrolled in a nursing school and graduated as a certified nurse. He has done well ever since. He must be 50 years old now, and perhaps a senior nurse in a local hospital. I can recall two others who also looked like they made a switch for a better career than sex work: One became a musican in a band, and last I heard, they were touring provincial towns perhaps singing at weddings. The other had to rush back to his hometown when his father had a stroke. Apparently the father ran a small motorocycle repair shop or something like that, and my moneyboy (whom I vaguely remember had a diploma in accounting or some such discipline) had to help fill the void in the business. A year later, a mutual friend told me my ex-moneyboy was now the boss. I haven't been in contact, and I wouldn't want to embarrass him by trying to keep in contact. In short, I tend to choose level-headed people to be my regulars. They are level-headed enough to know that our relationship is not ever going to be a love relationship; they never ask for money beyond services rendered (if they did they would be cut off in an instant). But their level-headedness also means they are likely to keep control over their lives and they plan forward. That said, some others have just disappeared and I have no idea what they've made of their lives. But these four - the fact that they have moved on gives me a warm feeling.

Those who responded with a smile are not very good at their trade, are they? They should have replied, "No problem, my cock very big. I can fuck you."

Ah, so there is a distinction between fake Venice and fake Italy. My bad, and rather embarrassing too, since I claim to be such a connoiseur of fake (fake love).

What??? 😆 Goes to show how tastes differ! But thanks @Raposa and @reader for the link. I tried but was thrown off by the spelling of Khymer Times.

After years of being on this forum - membership being surely one of the pleasures of life - I reckon there are four "desires" among those of us looking for paid hookups. 1. A simulacrum of romance (possibly leading to a real relationship); 2. Quickie sex; 3. Quickie sex Latin American style, otherwise known as being pounded to injury by donkey dongs; 4. Massage with erotic finish. If (1) is not a priority, longtime might not make any sense. Personally, (4) is my top priority followed by (2), so I don't miss not doing longtime.

That's my interpretation too, but nowadays, that's purely theoretical. I don't do long time anymore. I don't sleep well with a stranger in my bed and past a certain age, the self- inflicted expectation to have to cum again in the morning, a mere 6-7 hours after the last "episode", is more like a chore.

The patent on Cialis and tadalafil expired about 7-8 years ago. In Thailand, indian-made generic, branded as Apcalis, is widely available from just about any shop that also sells Sidegra. About 300 baht per box of 4 tablets, if I recall correctly.

Not always a good idea. I have heard this story from Vietnam: A young son back from the US launched a new business, partly funded by his parents. The business did well and expanded, and he hired a cousin to manage one of his new branches. The cousin began to misappropriate some money every month, but not so much that it would sink the business. Nonetheless, it was intolerable for the young entrepreneur, who obviously wanted to fire the cousin. However, his parents persuaded him to keep the cousin on, because firing that guy would cause a rift in the family. So, for months (years?) the cousin had free rein to the till. As often happens in such cases, he took more and more, but still the parents were against firing him. Finally, the cousin's mother died andwith that, the question of family rift became moot (I think the cousin's mother was the sister of the entrepreneur's mother) and so the cousin was sacked. By then however, he must have taken a lot of money. The expiry date is clearly printed on the Sidegra box. Easily checked before purchase even if buying from a small pharmacy.

Interesting that you added this remark. I was thinking the same thing. Although Fresh Boy and Dream Boy get far more customers than Hotmale, when I look back at the offs that I have taken, I believe I have taken more from Hotmale than the other bars. I like the selection at Moonlight too but what puts me off with that bar are the uncomfortable seats and the pushy mamasans that sit with you. So, I have not been into Moonlight for maybe 2 years now. Having their boys wearing clothes on stage didn't help at all!

But later on, you said you returned "the same way" which I read as by cable car. Which should have brought you back to the southern end of the island. However, you said you ended up at the replica Venice.... Did I miss something?

+1 Somewhere there I can see a charge of parental abuse being made out.

You said super hot, and then leave us with this last line. That's a cruel teaser 😂

It is true, as @daydreamer says, that you can get Sidegra for 180 baht per box of 4 tabs x 100mg at Chula MD, but I prefer to purchase from the shop next door whose Thai signboard looks like "ennuv" to me. It's visible in the photo above. I think "ennuv" charges more though, but not by much. What I didn't quite like about Chula MD on my one and only visit were 2 things: it was very busy with a lot of thai customers and secondly, a rather bureaucratic process. Their counters have a queue system. You have to take a numbered ticket. Then payment has to be made at a separate counter. Can't remember exactly but I think I had to go to a third counter to pick up the purchase. At the smaller ennuv shop, you're likely to be the only customer and you get the full attention of whoever is serving you. You're not sent here and there.

Despite being under new ownership & management, Hotmale hasn't launched any marketing campaign as far as I can see. They might not even have thought to take over the login credentials to their Facebook page and other social media, because the last post on Facebook was in January before the sale. They are still operating the same business model as before, and somehow hoping that business will turn around by itself. There is one notable change, however, and it is that the long red pants are gone. The boys now wear white, short shorts and sneakers. All barebodied unlike before when many had singlets in addition to the red pants. There's been some refreshing of the show, but it's not much of a stand-out. Hotmale's boys (on average) have always been a bit better looking than Fresh Boy or Dream Boy, in my experience, and this remains the case.

I heard that on a per-kilometre basis, cargo had the best rates. But I gave it a miss because I also heard there were no toilets in cargo.

What caught my eye on the frightul "standing seats" (what an oxymoron!) was the logo on the headrest. It looked like an invitation to insert something (with a distinct head) into a snug sleeve.

I forgot to mention the waiter didn't just hold the plate in a passive way. He would have to run a bit and leap into the air acrobatically to catch the flying vegetables, much like a tennis player would respond to an incoming ball. In all probability, they must have missed some, landing on the road, on somebody's car, on a songtaew's windscreen or on a motorcyclist's face. None of that must have gone down well with whoever it was who received the burning hot ball of vegetables. But I think what ended the acrobatics was the increasingly heavy traffic on Second Road. It must have become too risky for the waiter to run about or leap into the air to catch the food.

That is a very famous restaurant. It used to have the English name Flying Vegetables. Possibly the old signboard might still be hanging somewhere, though people might wonder why such a name. Old timers will know why. Vegetables literally flew. They had a unqiue display where, when your dish was fully cooked in the wok, the cook would, with a muscular swing of his arm, toss your food across to the other side of Second Road, flying above the cars and songtaews, there to be caught by a waiter with a plate in hand. Then the plate would be brought to your table. I've seen this acrobatic act a few times and always marvelled at how expert both the cooks and waiters were. Not once did they miss.

There are valid business reasons for this. Off the top of my head, I can think of three: 1. The owner/management of the bar(s) have decided that their business is to sell drinks and little else. They might also not want to fall afoul of prostitution laws. They want the hosts/hostesses to be present in the bar throughout the opening hours so that the bar benefits from the drinks they push onto customers. Either the bar then bans offing (like Dragon and Koi) or puts up a prohibitively high charge to strongly discourage it. The prohibitively high charge isn't only for customers; it also applies to any staff member who asks to leave the shift early. 2. The owner/management of the bar(s) have decided that their business is to sell drinks but are not averse to offing. However, customer traffic and drink sales are robust and the off fee (or bar fine) is set at a rate that properly compensates for drink sales forgone should a staff member be taken out of the premises. Can drink sales be as high as 4K? I don't know because I am not much of a drinker, and I don't go to places where the main objective of customers is to get drunk. But I can imagine that in some high traffic bars catering to customers with either high income or crazy spending habits, a host/hostess can be expected to sell at least two bottles of whisky at 2,000 baht each a night. 3. The third possible reason is boy-centred (or girl-centred). It may be that the bar wants to be an attractive place to work for boys (or girls) who really do not want to be taken off and then be expected to provide sex. I'm sure we can imagine that there are lots of people who draw the line at that. By instituting a policy of a prohibitive off fee (or bar fine), the management signals to potential employees that selling sex is not part of the job description. While it is true that even with a lower off fee, boys can always refuse to follow a customer out, each refusal is always going to be a difficult moment to manage, and the bar may fear that too many refusals create a bad brand image for themselves. So rather than create a situation where customers ask for an off and then be rejected, a high off fee deters customers from even asking, thus reducing the number of awkward moments.

Looking at how nice the space is, with its sturdy structures, much investment seems to have gone into this project. It is also possible that the Thai education system, using the Thai language rather than Burmese, is totally unsuitable for children of this community. So even if there is that option, would it be the best solution?

It's here: https://shamelessmacktwo.travel.blog/2024/01/05/but-wheres-the-tool/ Later reviews report almost the same format, so it doesn't seem to have changed. I'm glad because it's nice to see a business succeed, or at least be sustainable. What I am intrigued about is their private dance option. What exactly is included? How many minutes? How much 1000 baht / 2000 baht? If it's the latter, it's too much. I could get a bar boy in my arms (and groin) for that price.

Please make sure your insurance policy is in order before you try pole dancing with those hunks.

I think I know what "piggy bank" is - glory holes, but is "the cage"? Also interesting is that there is scrub room on the Level 1. Might there be a scrub service as is commonly found in traditional Chinese bathhouses? Hmmm....

At first I couldn't make sense of the Google Translate of this Facebook post: https://www.facebook.com/share/p/1FrimYUehA/ However, it sounded serious, so I searched a bit and found a more intelligible account: https://mothership.sg/2025/03/thai-couple-wrong-luggage-cannabis-inside/

Their entry prices can be see on their instagram poster: There's a 100 baht discount for the month of March, but otherwise entry will be 400/600 baht. The notable thing about the poster is the fact that it is in English and Chinese. No Thai. My guess, going by its choice of location and language, is that its target market may be the East Asian tourists that have some free time in the evenings before going to Silom Soi 2 to dance the night away. Another thing I noticed after clicking the Google Map link provided by @ichigo, is the way it declares itself as "LGBTQ+ friendly". This is kind of careless language that one often sees in Thailand, where "LGBTQ+" is used loosely, maybe because they somehow think "katoey" or "gay" is perjorative. It is misleading advertising. The place is for men. It says so on their same instagram homepage (https://www.instagram.com/10saunabkk/) : The newest Queer-Owned and Operated Private Man’s Sauna and Social Club. They would have no problem if a straight guy went in. They wouldn't even know he's straight, and anyway he could be anywhere on the bisexuality spectrum. But I can see 1/0 Sauna denying entry to a bunch of nine lesbians demanding admission. They shouldn't say "LGBTQ+ friendly" when they are not.