Daily Rate Woes

[vinapu]

On 7/27/2025 at 12:04 PM, spoon said:

 Like @ichigo mentioned above, why settle with one guy when there are so many choices in Bangkok?

 

if we genuinely like guy and feel good ii his company, I'd say  why not ? Of course we need to looks for signs of boredom and complacency but so called quasi boyfriend experience can be quite pleasant if both sides are working on it.

Boy hopping may bring new discoveries  but also  disappointments and misspent money.

Ideal situation is to have stable of regulars to return to  plus occasional, say every 2-4 days foray for new unknown.

In any case of repeat we must be careful to avoid situation when boy is trying to take ownership  of us by trying to modify our agenda of " I want go to Asiatique" or "I want eat Japanese  food" type  or starts to create additional financial requests.  If we notice it , in my opinion and I'm not born yesterday is to react immediately either by voicing displeasure or cutting him off. sometimes it may be hard but when we avoid it , soon enough we will be reminded why it was mistake as new requests will arrive  and  smartphone will take precedence over our good time like in case of OP

[vinapu]

8 hours ago, jason1975 said:

4k a day for holiday together seems fair price to pay.

I agree but as we see from quoted example of boy offering to take  cut of 50% of his fee, there's a lot of room for negotiation.

[vinapu]

8 hours ago, Daniu said:

It's possible to see the situation from his perspective regarding the pricing. What you're asking for appears to involve more extensive demands than a standard bar interaction. The request for what sounds like: 30 consecutive days of engagement, with a new customer, with daily BFE, from a straight man, and in a non-native language, sounds like a significant commitment. This could explain why only a minor reduction in his rate might not be appealing

reminds me two  customers in my working days, both plumbers.

One  was accepting only big , substantial jobs and was mentally and financially prepared to wait for next opportunity. He wouldn't want to come just to install new faucet. Another one  was opposite, wanted only fast and easy jobs gladly installing new toilet but forget about him to agree to change piping in whole  building. First was doing better financially , another one had more of free time on his hands. Both were  happy

[zoomomancs]

2 hours ago, vinapu said:

I agree but as we see from quoted example of boy offering to take  cut of 50% of his fee, there's a lot of room for negotiation.

Indeed, though in my case he had just earned 24,000 bt in 6 days so he was able to feel more flexible. And I like to show a man a good time. 

[vinapu]

10 hours ago, a-447 said:

 

It's important for me to sit down with the guy at the beginning and come to a mutually satisfactory arrangement regarding price and what we expect from each other. I think the arrangement must be good for both of us.

 

I adhere to this advice and what I noticed is that while  compensation part seems to be adhered to, when comes to living arrangements , not quite , even if it was clearly settled. I always make disclaimer that if I bring another boy for that time   I like to be left alone and undisturbed and room vacated until alarm is called off. Still had cases , I recall at least two, one of them quite recent , when it created  offence and even triggered penalty from boy in form of sleeping dressed that night ( guest came during day). 

 

[vinapu]

2 hours ago, zoomomancs said:

Indeed, though in my case he had just earned 24,000 bt in 6 days so he was able to feel more flexible. And I like to show a man a good time. 

good for both of you. 24000 is quite a sum. It's good to show a man a good time but even better if he will try to do the same. Hope that was your case.

On margins of your comment I have one unrelated:

it's consider common wisdom not to drag gogo boy to  another go-go bar as he may not like an idea to remind him how he looks while on the stage.

On my last trip month ago I had no less that three different boys who actually suggested they want to go to bar to see the show and based on reaction , enjoyed it 

 

 

[Olddaddy]

19 hours ago, jason1975 said:

4k a day for holiday together seems fair price to pay.

That's $200 AUD a day !!!

This is Thailand not Australia 

I would do it for that ,

[jason1975]

14 hours ago, vinapu said:

On margins of your comment I have one unrelated:

it's consider common wisdom not to drag gogo boy to  another go-go bar as he may not like an idea to remind him how he looks while on the stage.

On my last trip month ago I had no less that three different boys who actually suggested they want to go to bar to see the show and based on reaction , enjoyed it

You are lucky that you have guys who wanted to go to other bars to watch the shows

My guy does not like to go to other bars. He will of course go if customer requests it. But with me, I always look for activities which both of us enjoy. Watching muay thai boxing is one such activity we both recently discovered. 

[jason1975]

16 hours ago, zoomomancs said:

Indeed, though in my case he had just earned 24,000 bt in 6 days so he was able to feel more flexible. And I like to show a man a good time. 

You are a splendid customer! That's why your guy loves going out with you!

[BjornAgain]

9 hours ago, Olddaddy said:

That's $200 AUD a day !!!

This is Thailand not Australia 

I would do it for that ,

I'm in Parramatta, do you charge mileage as well?

[vinapu]

6 hours ago, jason1975 said:

I always look for activities which both of us enjoy. 

That's always the case of successful time together although on vacation sometimes we need to make hard choice - do something we travelled there for or ,  for sake of peace,  compromise  and look for something we both enjoy at expense of our own pleasure only.  

In Bangkok I can skip Grand Palace or Mahanakhon if that doesn't suit  my companion but not nightly visit to some bar.

[floridarob]

6 hours ago, BjornAgain said:

I'm in Parramatta, do you charge mileage as well?

Be careful what you ask for....the answer might be no and next thing we know you and @Olddaddy are sipping out of your water bottles 😆

[12is12]

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[CallMeLee]

I think 2500 is reasonable, although I was told they still have to pay their off fee to the bar for every night they don't work just to keep their slot or number in the bar.

A couple of guys I had a good daily rate setup with actually started with a long time off that stretched until mid day. That gave them a feel of what a full day with me is like before they quoted me a rate. I think part of it depends on the connection you build and how much work they think it'll be on their end.In most, if not all, of my arrangements like this, it was actually the guy who brought up the idea.

Some may also have other jobs or side gigs during the day that they’d need to give up, so that probably factors in too.

That said, some boys are just greedy or don’t really have the business sense to think long term.

[vinapu]

2 hours ago, CallMeLee said:

, some boys... don’t really have the business sense to think long term.

at end of day I don't blame them . with exception os bar stars most of them really need money NOW , much more than after tomorrow

[AussieTop90]

17 hours ago, BjornAgain said:

I'm in Parramatta, do you charge mileage as well?

Getting to Parramatta can be expensive. Especially if you’re coming down the M4 😂 

[Min]

21 hours ago, floridarob said:

Be careful what you ask for....the answer might be no and next thing we know you and @Olddaddy are sipping out of your water bottles 😆

You sound jealous, even possessive.

[floridarob]

26 minutes ago, Min said:

You sound jealous, even possessive.

Is it that obvious?