Thailand Trip Report February/March 2026

[mauRICE]

1 hour ago, vinapu said:

While you are correct, I'd leave for people involved to assess what makes sense  for them and what not. They may have their own calculations.

This is trite. Clearly I was thinking out loud and expressing my views on the matter and have no control over the actions or folly of others.

 

1 hour ago, vinapu said:

As for boys in bars not being able to be offed , while rare those species exist. Some guys go with ladies only, while other are exclusive to guys making hoping  girls long-faced. There are those who are only participating in the shows and finally those who are   available to all and sundry but at prohibitive price rendering them unconquerable  for most of patrons. 

All acceptable reasons in my opinion and nothing new. But "sorry, I can't go with you tonight because my sugar daddy forbade me to" takes it to another level of absurdity. 🙄

[mauRICE]

1 hour ago, vinapu said:

Isn't it ultimate goal of all of them ?

No, it isn't. Some of the guys like their independence and don't like being beholden to anybody. Moreover, a popular guy could be making 100,000 Baht a month (there are hosts from the big host bars bringing in 300,000 ++ Baht per month; one I know just bought a Mercedes convertible) and there aren't that many sponsors willing to part with that amount as compensation for taking him permanently out of the bar.

[vinapu]

11 hours ago, floridarob said:

A little more honesty and a little less fantasy on both sides would probably save a lot of people from getting hurt, no?

 

11 hours ago, floridarob said:

as you said above .. broken hearts and dreams still exist.

 

[vinapu]

3 hours ago, mauRICE said:

there are hosts from the big host bars bringing in 300,000 ++ Baht per month; and there aren't that many sponsors willing to part with that amount as compensation for taking him permanently out of the bar.

that would be 10 000 a day in tips , just for drinking and small talk, day after day ? Very nice

[floridarob]

6 hours ago, vinapu said:

next time we are there at the same time I may point you to a guys who may confirm your  suspicion.

we already know you and @Olddaddy have something going.... what it is, anybody's guess 🤷‍♂️

[Travelingguy]

I prefer to keep the interactions transactional.  After all, that is what they are.  Pleasantly transactional is ideal for me.

[spoon]

4 hours ago, vinapu said:

that would be 10 000 a day in tips , just for drinking and small talk, day after day ? Very nice

I wonder how his liver fare, even at a generous 300 baht tips per drink, thats 33 glasses of alcohol consumption per day.

[jason1975]

12 hours ago, jimmie50 said:

While I have enjoyed meeting a number of different guys this trip and enjoyed regular sessions, only one has peaked my interest enough to even consider any of this, and that would be Cam.  I really don't know how to even approach the subject with him or if it is something that he would even be interested in.  I also don't know exactly what I would be suggesting, given this inner struggle taking place in my mind.  I certainly don't want to make any promises that I cannot or will not keep.  I don't want to be 'all talk, no action' or empty promises, so to speak.  

You can be direct and tell him you want him to stay with you for 3 days then wait for his response.

Most guys have experienced offs for few days from customers so they know what to expect.

[jimmie50]

continued…Installment 21: No texts from Banana guy, so I think he got my message loud and clear.  Not sure I will see him again before my departure on April 2.  Too many other fish in the sea.  Decided on a quiet afternoon and didn’t schedule any activities.  Met Cam at 8pm outside of Hotmale, provided him with off fee and since I have done that a few times now avoiding the need to buy us both a drink in the club I thought it would be wise to tell him give THB 200 tip to head mamasan to keep us in her good graces.  lol.  Decided to try Happy Beer Garden for dinner, but did not get the cashew chicken.  I was in the mood for something different, so we ordered Tom Yum soup, Pad Thai w/shrimp, and deep fried chicken wings.  We sat on the second floor in a room with A/C and some interesting decor on the ceiling.  Artificial flowers outlined light fixtures and it almost looked like Christmas tree ornaments hanging everywhere.  Food was good.  Definitely a place I would go back to, but don’t think I would want to sit on the first floor as no A/C.  Cam said that Sarica and Happy Beer Garden are owned by the same people.  Not sure if that is true or not…forum members may be more knowledgeable about this.  Too early to go back to the condo, so decided to check out another club.   

Went to Moonlight, since I had not been to this club on this trip just yet.  Usual parade of number guys…I counted 11 guys in the rotation.  10 customers including us…mostly Asian guys, but one older Caucasian.  One number boy was sitting with an older Asian customer.  Eventually they would leave together.  Just as I noted on my previous visit to this club, the number of employees far outnumbered the customers.  Show started late and consisted mostly of the models.  Got that same standoffish attitude from the models as I noticed the first time I visited this club.  Headed back to the condo after the show, showered together, did the wild thing and spent the night wrapped in each other’s arms.  Really enjoy the time I spend with Cam more and more.  Going to be difficult leaving him behind.  Slept later than usual, went for some breakfast, came back and took a swim, then went to the fitness room where he worked out and I simply admired the view.  lol.  Gym and exercise just not my thing, but enjoy watching him.  After his workout, we said our goodbyes and he headed back home.  I took a nice, long nap in the afternoon because in the evening I met Paradise guy.  We went and grabbed some dinner, came back to the condo and watched a movie, did the wild thing, and he spent the night.  He is not quite into the cuddling during the night like Cam is, but other wise was a nice evening once again.  After we ate some breakfast he showered and headed off to work.  I needed to pack a few things for a few days out of Bangkok.  Friends are picking me up at noon.

Won’t see any of my regulars for the next few days as am going to Pattaya in the morning with my straight friends.  They have some sort of boat excursion planned on Sunday out to one of the islands near Pattaya that will include some snorkeling and BBQ.  Plan on staying in Pattaya a couple of days on my own before returning to Bangkok Wednesday morning.  Will be interesting to see what mischief I can find around Jomtien Complex.

[jimmie50]

4 hours ago, jason1975 said:

You can be direct and tell him you want him to stay with you for 3 days then wait for his response.

The 3 days I did already mention to him...just asking if it would be something he is interested in doing.  That was an easy conversation to have.  Based upon what other forum members have recommended, we have confirmed the 3 days at THB 10,000...although I am sure I will give him 12,000.  That would fit with my thinking all along of 4,000 per day.  So...that is basically a done deal.  

The difficult conversation is about a more long term arrangement...and what that might even look like.  I am beginning to think I should maybe put that idea on the back burner, so to speak, and let time and distance put things into better perspective for me.  Removing myself from the present situation could change my thoughts on the idea.  I feel like we will maintain some type of communication once I return home via Line, and just kind of take a step back and see what happens moving forward.  I am planning a return trip later in the year, but no definite dates just yet.  I also plan to make that trip unannounced...other than possibly Cam.  I do not want my straight friends to know, as they will try to plan outings and activities that will distract me from other more important matters.  LOL.  I don't want my current group of regulars to know as I don't want any expectations or assumptions made in advance.  Going to follow advice of other forum members and not share too much information.  

[mauRICE]

3 hours ago, jimmie50 said:

Won’t see any of my regulars for the next few days as am going to Pattaya in the morning with my straight friends.  They have some sort of boat excursion planned on Sunday out to one of the islands near Pattaya that will include some snorkeling and BBQ.  Plan on staying in Pattaya a couple of days on my own before returning to Bangkok Wednesday morning.  Will be interesting to see what mischief I can find around Jomtien Complex.

Samae San island in Sattahip district. I remember you mentioning it sometime ago and was wondering whether you had been. It's gorgeous with white sandy beaches and crystal clear waters but we went just after Covid when much of Mother Nature had had a chance to recover. Samae San is a cluster of eight mini islands comprising Samae San and seven others. Bring a large hat with you and slap on the sunscreen generously as it's burn-baby-burn scorching hot right now. Hope the fresh air and being away from boy shenanigans will help you recharge and give you a fresh perspective on things. 🫶

[jason1975]

5 hours ago, jimmie50 said:

The difficult conversation is about a more long term arrangement...and what that might even look like.  I am beginning to think I should maybe put that idea on the back burner, so to speak, and let time and distance put things into better perspective for me.  Removing myself from the present situation could change my thoughts on the idea.  I feel like we will maintain some type of communication once I return home via Line, and just kind of take a step back and see what happens moving forward.  I am planning a return trip later in the year, but no definite dates just yet.  I also plan to make that trip unannounced...other than possibly Cam.  I do not want my straight friends to know, as they will try to plan outings and activities that will distract me from other more important matters.  LOL.  I don't want my current group of regulars to know as I don't want any expectations or assumptions made in advance.  Going to follow advice of other forum members and not share too much information.  

I advise against any long term arrangement until you get to know your guy much better.

My own arrangement with my guy only came about in 2019 which was 3 years after I first knew him in 2016. He was the one who approached me for help.

I provided him with a small sum every month and this came in really handy during Covid. This year (2026) is our 10th year of knowing each other.

I have helped him out in other ways beside the monthly remittance - when he was hospitalised for malaria, when he needed an urgent air ticket back for his grandmother's funeral, when he had to get a new IPhone 🤣 and finally, I recently helped him to get his house construction started.

We are very much an inseparable couple in Bangkok if you ever see us together. We know each other well and his friends and my friends know us as well.

You and your guy will have to know what you want from each other. Your 3 day trip should give you opportunities to find out more.

[jimmie50]

53 minutes ago, jason1975 said:

I advise against any long term arrangement until you get to know your guy much better.

Good advice, thanks!  Kind of why I am leaning towards doing nothing at the moment and just seeing how things play out once I have returned to Denver.  Plus, the unknown element in this is what his thoughts or feelings are about such an arrangement...and what the arrangement might look like from his perspective.  Since it hasn't been mentioned or discussed between us...he has no idea what I am thinking.  I have been able to do that on the forum, but it isn't something that has come up in any of our conversations.  He may say 'thanks, but no thanks' and have little or no interest in such a thing.  On the flip side, he might be thinking about something similar but unsure how to approach me.  Way too many variables here at the present time, so better to hit the pause button on myself.  As the old saying goes, don't get the cart before the horse.  See how the three days together go first.  Then proceed with caution.